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Ta-Nehisi on conservatism

Thursday June 11, 2009

Categories: Liberalism

Reader Helen asked me to take a look at Ta-Nehisi Coates' post explaining why he's not a conservative. Here's the gist of it:

I think about the terror that fell upon black communities in the South, after the Civil War, and I wonder whether it could have all been averted by a more a gradualist approach. Sadly, I don't think so. And yet you see Lincoln (a conservative at heart, no?), a reluctant reformer, doing whatever he can to avoid war, to avoid making the war about slavery (initially), trying to save the Union at all cost.

He isn't wrong. But if you are the slave, that essentially conservative approach will always privilege your master over you. Conservatism, with its belief in institutions, traditions, and the past, will seemingly always privilege (perhaps inadvertently) the powerful over the powerless. Institutions, traditions and the past belong to those with power. Privileging them, privileges their agents.

I think TNC is drawing overbroad general conclusions from a particular historical situation. Conservatism, properly understood, is not an ideology, but a temperament. TNC is correct that the default conservative position is in favor of institutions and traditions. But it is not for the sake of flattering power, but rather out of a skepticism about human nature and human endeavor, and the fear that as bad as things are now, we could make it even worse. The idea is that tradition is the accumulated wisdom of the species, and while it is not infallible -- Burke, the great articulator of modern Anglo conservatism, was quite clear that conservatives had to have some means of change, and accomodating natural change -- a wise polity will defer to it as a general matter.

This seems perfectly sound to me. It's clear that conservatism, or rather conservative people, were in the wrong on the matter of civil rights. All conservatives have to ask themselves why that was, and how our principles allowed us to defend something monstrous (by "us," I mean "our side"). The answer will have something to do with elevating conservatism to an absolute principle, and forgetting that our conservatism has to be applied with reference to what we are proposing to conserve. If one is proposing to conserve an immoral institution or practice, then obviously the conservative disposition will lead one to embrace and to defend immorality.

This is always a danger for conservatives. That said, as a general matter, I find the conservative disposition to be a more reliable way of interpreting the world and deciding how to act in it.

I would challenge liberals, though, to be similarly skeptical about liberalism's own claims. It seems to me that TNC's fundamental stance against institutions is not only wrong, but can be very misleading. It is a way of justifying permanent revolution. Wouldn't a thoughtful liberal seek to conserve traditions and institutions that embodied and defended liberal ideals?

Think of abortion. Liberals are fiercely determined to defend Roe v. Wade, because they believe a woman's freedom of choice re: pregnancy is a fundamental good. Liberals are functioning as conservatives on this topic, and indeed the Supreme Court, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, relied on a conservative appeal to tradition to defend a liberal policy goal, and to institutionalize it. To be precise, the Court argued that whatever might be said against Roe, the constitutional abortion license that it granted has become such an important part of American life that to reverse it would be too destructive to our common life. That was actually a temperamentally conservative ruling. But to people who believe that abortion is murder, as to those who believed that black Americans possessed full civil rights -- the Court was relying on conservatism to defend something gravely immoral. So you see, this goes both ways. The problem with liberals like TNC is they believe the fantasy that liberalism is always on the side of the powerless. This is why they defend affirmative action policies that deliver the children of the black middle class into positions at universities and in workplaces, while the children of the white working class are necessarily disadvantaged.

At bottom, I am not a liberal because I do not share the same view of human nature that most liberals do, and because I think that in my culture and country, our traditions and institutions, broadly speaking, are a wise guide to our life in common. And I believe liberals have such an unrealistic view of human nature that they typically run off to tear down fences without any regard for why the fences were erected, so to speak. Nevertheless, insofar as left-liberalism, even left-liberalism embedded in our present-day institutions and customs, work to suppress and roll back traditionalist Christian moral understandings and religious liberties, I will oppose them. Privileging liberal institutions because they are institutions privileges their agents, and can institutionalize immorality. On the other hand, a right-thinking conservative would necessarily be mindful about how upsetting the settled social order too radically could bring about more evils than we live with now. That's what it means to be a conservative, as opposed to an ideologue.

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Cecelia
June 12, 2009 1:27 AM

I think the central dilemma of conservates is capitalism. Like it or not conservatives are linked to free market capitalism. But it is exactly this capitalist system that is destroying families and local communities. Which conservatives also claim to value. You can’t have it both ways. If you value the family and community then you must confront the problems created by a capitalist economy which destroy family and community.

I suspect this is why we see some (a tiny bit of some) conservatives exploring distributist economies. But implementation of such is a radical reform of the society. A very unconservative point of view. I must revise my leading statement the central dilemma of conservativism is not capitalism – it is the inability of a conservative temperament to reject a traditional system for one which better preserves those traditions (family and community) which the conservative values.

I think this is why we see so many people who are conservative in their lifestyles, accepting traditional modes of religion and ways of living but are liberal in their politics.
Because the liberal or left position seems more supportive of families especially around economic issues.

Nothing to my mind demonstrates the conservative temperament more than the word “no”. Any proposal for reform is met with a “no”. Which leaves the conservative looking foolish – preserving systems which do not work, or disadvantage some people, or create economic imbalance appears to be foolish.

Another issue with a conservative temperament is that while the conservative values tradition – and therefore the traditional notions of community solidarity, the conservative rejects changes that create greater integration of the community. This is the fence issue – fence those gays, those dark skinned people, those immigrants, those non religious people, away from the community we are used to. But doing so destroys community – so as liberals promote inclusion they appear to be supporting the community by promoting cohesion of the community.

I think the conservative notion of being cautious about change is proper but it ends up looking like don’t change because gays are deviant, immigrants don’t share our values, the climate is fine etc etc. So of course the liberals reject the caution argument because it does not look like caution it looks like bigotry or willful ignorance.

It is irrelevant why conservative POV’s end up supporting the current power structure. What matters is that conservativism does support the current situation. And when the current situation is intolerable, then the conservative is an obstacle, not a balance.

What we need are conservatives who can identify what has the highest value for them. I suspect that would be family and community. So the conservative who would be credible would be one who recognizes the traditional institutions and systems which are destroying family and community and advocate to reform or change that.


Thomas R
June 12, 2009 5:42 AM

I think there's a degree of truth in what TNC says. Although I think he tends to take one element of conservatism, or the GOP, and place it as everything.

Still I do think a pure conservatism is not all that desirable. It would lead toward stagnancy or feudalism. Pharaonic Egypt or Confucian China were much more conservative than any Christian nation ever was or even can be.

That being said most forms of modern conservatism are not pure. Cautiousness about change doesn't mean just rejection of change altogether.

A modern conservative, to me, is most opposed to breaking with tradition based on something purely abstract or of your own invention. Or when it's done without understanding of the consequences.

The abolitionists were something of a break with the past in a way, but they did have many decades of discussion and thought before success. The most Radical ones, who favored insurrection or denounced the US Constitution, were often the least successful.

In the case of the Civil Rights movement you have something much more indebted to traditions and structures. King based his ideas in centuries of notions about just laws and in the promises made during Reconstruction. He didn't just invent something out of whole cloth on his own.

I think there is a danger of too much conservatism, but that doesn't mean the solution is no conservatism. Also seeing conservatism only in terms of power-relationships is a rather narrow vision. (In fairness I think TNC sees liberalism largely in terms of power relationships as well)

Charles Foster Kane
June 12, 2009 8:16 AM


Cecelia: Excellent comment.

Bill Butler
June 12, 2009 9:11 AM

I didn't vote for Sara Palin (or John McCain) and I don't think that she (or Barack Obama) has any good reason to be anywhere near the White House.

That said, the never-ending liberal establishment gang-bang of Palin seems deeply pathological to me, bordering on clinically psychotic in particular cases, like Letterman's.

Have their ever been such sore winners as the liberal establishment now are?

Obama's victory makes this put up or shut up time for the liberal establishment.

I get the feeling that even they know deep down that they don't have a lot to put.

But rather than shut up, they're talking twice as much and twice as loud and in twice as uncivil and twice as ungenerous a way than they did before about how much they hate Christians and social conservatives and suburbanites and the working class and the lower middle-class and people who live in small towns.

Just four years ago, "BushHitler" was about to send all the liberals to reeducation camps.

Now, liberals act as if they want to do the same to all non-liberals -- or wish that they could.

The absolute joylessness and meanspiritedness of the liberal victory last fall makes me wonder if the liberal hysteria during the Bush years wasn't projection more than paranoia.


Bill Butler
June 12, 2009 9:20 AM

R Hampton, Hector, and Jon,

Apologies to you three for the fact that CATCHA just ate a substantial post in response to what you wrote to me last night. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or the energy now to rewrite the post. So, I'll let you-all share the last word. Thanks for the spirited -- and (on my end) useful -- exchange.

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