This is not the kind of story you think it will be from the headline.
Anglican priest Michael Reiss is a leading British bioethicist and science educator. Until late last year, he ran the Royal Society's science education division. Why was he driven out? Because he gave an interview in which he said that science educators ought to treat creationist students with respect. He didn't say treat creation-ism with respect, in that it ought to be taught, or treated as scientific. Rather, he said that science teachers ought to deal with creationist students with respect and sensitivity. The prospect that an officer of the Royal Society might in any way suggest that creationists are to be regarded with human respect was too much for a loud and bumptious minority of British scientists, who blackballed poor Reiss.
It was a shocking act of intolerance and injustice toward Reiss, who was plainly not guilty of what they accused him of. And it showed what intolerant bullies scientific fundamentalists can be. I heard a talk by Rev. Dr. Reiss in Cambridge last month, and he struck all of us as a consummate gentleman. He gave me an interview after his speech, which you can see here. Excerpt:
You were raised as an atheist, trained as a scientist, came to Christianity as an adult and eventually became an Anglican priest. How do you reconcile your Christianity with the theory of evolution?It's quite important for me to say that I was indeed a scientist first, so I never went through a period where I wondered whether the early chapters of Genesis, for example, should be read literally. I was always pretty confident that the scientific understanding of the age of the world and the evolution of the species must be correct. I was then very relieved when I eventually found that, among academic theologians, even before Darwin's time, that actually was always the consensus view and that fundamentalists' literal reading of the early chapters of Genesis only really got going in the last 100, 150 years.
St. Augustine, one of the most profound theologians in the Western church, counseled against fundamentalism on the question of Genesis, right?You're absolutely right. He wrote a rather impressive book called The Literal Interpretation of Genesis, which, despite its title, actually attacked Christians who read the first few chapters as being factual history. Augustine - a major theologian, who lived about the time of the fourth century common era - honestly did not think that was the way to read them.
I'm somebody who has a very conventional Christian faith. I have a quite literal acceptance of the Resurrection. I personally tend to think the virgin birth is probably to be understood literally; to me, it all seems to make sense. But I don't think we have to read those early chapters of Genesis as telling us about history.
What does your unpleasant experience with the Royal Society tell us about the cultural moment we're in? What broader lesson should we draw from it?
I think it does suggest - and this is true in the States as well as Europe - that we are at quite an interesting time because normal people feel themselves beleaguered. We don't any longer have, in most of our societies, a shared common set of values.
In my country, England, religious values are less important on average than they are in the States, and therefore, quite often, it's religious faiths that are more likely to be attacked. But in some parts of America, I understand, it's quite difficult if you're a firm atheist. I want to live in societies where we can have a diversity of people, even if they disagree with one another, respecting one another.
It seems to me that what happened to you - and we have similar things that happen in the U.S. on both sides of the question - puts us in a position where we cannot have the sort of necessary conversations that we must have over science and other controversial issues because people are afraid to teach controversy. It's easier just to stand back and not talk about it. But I think we're all impoverished.
And I think if that were to be the case, if people decided not to deal with controversial issues, you're right, we would indeed be impoverished. I'm actually pretty confident, pretty comfortable. In my experience, the occasional furor in the press, such as surrounded me when I was at the Royal Society, actually often makes it easier for teachers to deal with controversial issues in the classroom. And there's a fantastic tradition in the States as well as in Europe of dealing with issues of controversy.
In Texas, creationism and evolution is a very hot issue in public schools and our state Legislature. If you were going to give general advice to politicians as well as educators about how to handle this issue, what would you say?
I feel very hesitant, as someone who is manifestly English, dreaming of giving advice to people in Texas, but I would urge that we ought to have young people understanding the theory of evolution. That's not the same as trying to persuade them they've got to accept it. And a good science teacher should be able to introduce the theory of evolution and assure young people that this is, scientifically, a pretty strong consensus, without in any way giving the impression that if you don't accept this, in some way you're less intelligent. Teachers must respect the communities from which their children come.
And for myself as a teacher, I like having a diversity of pupils. You can sometimes get some really good discussions.
Here's more from Reiss, laying out his position. It makes perfect sense to me. Excerpt:
My interest has always been what to do if a pupil brings up creationism as a reason for not accepting evolution or the cosmological account of the origins of the Universe. If a science teacher doesn't want to discuss it, they shouldn't have to, and that's fine. But supposing a teacher does feel comfortable allowing other children to discuss it. Providing it's a scientific discussion, about evidence, then I think its a great opportunity to get pupils to understand how scientific knowledge builds up. Too many 14 and 15-year-olds find school science uninteresting. So if anyone asks a genuine question, we should use that question as a vehicle for teaching good science.In the same way that PE teachers spend time thinking about how to deal with children who are too embarrassed to do sports, or who think they can't catch, or can't swim, biology educators have to deal with pupils whose beliefs contradict the scientific viewpoint. That's what teaching is all about. Anyone can teach the one child in 20 who loves science--the real challenge is to help the other pupils to understand it and perhaps come to love it.
Presumably the Dawkinses of the world think the best way to teach science is to humiliate children in class who disagree. I am not a creationist, but I would rather have my child taught science by Michael Reiss than the intolerant dogmatist Richard Dawkins.

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Re: How could God forsake himself and question himself as if he was another? It makes sense once you realize that the New Testament authors needed to promote the idea that Jesus was divine, and not merely a child of God as we all are, and Jesus himself said.
R Hampton,
You realise that your questions are not new? People have been asking that very same question for 19 centuries. Firstly, God exists in three Persons that are utterly distinct. They are not simply three roles or three faces, they are three separate Persons within one Godhead. Secondly, as Bishop Charles Gore said, Christ deliberately emptied himself of divine knowledge and intimate connection with the Father when He became Incarnate. Because the essence of humanity is limitation, Christ had to share our limitations in order to be fully human. Thus he shared the experience of feeling forsaken by God, and when He hung on the Cross He believed that God would resurrect him only as a matter of faith, and not as a matter of divine foreknowledged.
As for the bit about 'Almah' vs. 'Betulah', it doesn't matter what the Hebrew text said. The translators of the Septuagint translated 'Almah' as "Parthenos". Greek speaking Jews at the time were expecting a virgin to bear the messiah, not just some 'young woman'.
'Brother' in that last passage means in a metaphorical, moral sense, not brothers in a literal biological one.
Yes I do realize this -- people have recognized the logical problems of the written Bible since it was first written by men.
Christ had to share our limitations in order to be fully human
1. If Jesus was fully human (emptied of divine knowledge and intimate connection to himself), then he would have been unable to perform miracles. But if Jesus did perform miracles, then he was not a limited human like the rest of us. Either way the logic of Bishop Charles Gore, et. al. fails.
2. There is much in the Bible that is metaphorical, but "literalists" only accept this when it suits them and casually cast aside thousands of years of tradition -- the metaphors of the Old and New Testament as understood by the Orthodox, Catholic, and Jewish religions.
If Jesus was fully human (emptied of divine knowledge and intimate connection to himself), then he would have been unable to perform miracles.
Nonsense, non-incarnate humans do miracles both in scripture and in history all the time. Divinity is not a pre-requisite for doing miracles. Jesus' miracles were things that any true human can do. (But Jesus has been called the only true human in history.)
So, whosoever does the will of God is the brother of God?
Yep. Paul speaks often and eloquently of our adoption by God as brothers of Jesus.
But do you deny that the leaders ad doctors of the Church taught a lot of wrong things over the years, and that they claimed to find authority for those wrong ideas in Scripture?
Not as many as you and White try to make it. Sure, they made mistakes, but they got a lot of stuff right, as well. Nobody has ever said that reading scripture is easy, reading material from another time and culture is always difficult. I would certainly be willing to put the record of the church for the last 2000 years against any pagan or secular institutions that have a similar history.
St. Augustine was obviously incorrect in his conclusion, but he was correct in denying the premise that the humans in the Antipodes had a separate origin from the humans in Africa, Asia and Europe.
Yes, and again, good for him. The problem is that his incorrect conclusions, and those of his colleagues, are seized upon by all the lesser minds, the church bureaucrats and local priests and provincial teachers and so forth, as authoritative doctrine against which competing views are affronts to Scripture and/or God. At best they become a dead weight on free thinking, at worst they lead to persecutions, heresy trials and witch hunts. (And no, that's not what was happening, in reverse, in the Reiss case, as I and others have already pointed out.)
The basic problem, in other words, is not getting this or that point wrong, it's grounding your arguments in the authority of a sacred text that is held to be "the Word of God," particularly when that text is long and complex and had many human authors. Creationism is one of the (last, I hope) rearguard actions in a long, long struggle to shore up the Bible's authority against centuries of mounting evidence that it was what we should, rationally, expect it to be: the work of people in a pre-modern and pre-scientific culture who just didn't know a lot of stuff that we now know.
Richard Dawkins on God.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555132,00.html
DAWKINS: My mind is not closed, as you have occasionally suggested, Francis. My mind is open to the most wonderful range of future possibilities, which I cannot even dream about, nor can you, nor can anybody else. What I am skeptical about is the idea that whatever wonderful revelation does come in the science of the future, it will turn out to be one of the particular historical religions that people happen to have dreamed up. When we started out and we were talking about the origins of the universe and the physical constants, I provided what I thought were cogent arguments against a supernatural intelligent designer. But it does seem to me to be a worthy idea. Refutable--but nevertheless grand and big enough to be worthy of respect. I don't see the Olympian gods or Jesus coming down and dying on the Cross as worthy of that grandeur. They strike me as parochial. If there is a God, it's going to be a whole lot bigger and a whole lot more incomprehensible than anything that any theologian of any religion has ever proposed.
This is reasonable to me.
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