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Paris Jackson speaks

Wednesday July 8, 2009

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Did you watch Michael Jackson's young daughter Paris speak at yesterday's event? Here's that clip: It was extremely moving, and reminded me that however freaky MJ was, he was this child's daddy. I remember a friend I once had whose...
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AnotherBeliever
July 8, 2009 12:40 PM

It is a lot of attention for a little girl. She didn't have to speak at the service. But she is old enough, that she might have wanted to. She won't regret doing it, and nobody is going to give her any grief for this. He was her Daddy, and despite everything else Michael Jackson went through, that love is real. His kids may have been the only ones to really love him as he was.

Tom
July 8, 2009 12:42 PM

Just when I thought you were going to flip-flop on another issue, you complete your criticism of Michael Jackson's death.
Where have you seen/heard that the family made Paris do this? It appeared to be her choice and decision, and I think it was both heartfelt and appropriate.
For all the bashing of Jackson over the past week and a half, I challenge anyone to be negative about his memorial service. It wasn't cheezy or over the top. And having Paris speak at the end was very touching.
It's hard to be a loving, caring father when millions of people vilify you. Looks like Michael Jackson was able to overcome that, but lost the battle with saving himself.

Anderson
July 8, 2009 12:42 PM

I don't know. She's been so isolated for so long that it was probably liberating for her. (Especially since she didn't have to wear a mask.)

I didn't get the impression that she was coerced. After all, her brothers didn't say anything.

tmatt
July 8, 2009 12:44 PM

It was moving the first time I saw it.

Less so the next 1,489 times it was replayed during about one hour of various cable news shows.

John
July 8, 2009 12:47 PM

I saw no evidence that she was being compelled to speak. Indeed, when she was unable to go on, the Jackson family members quickly escorted her away from the podium. I think that at 11 years old, she's old enough to make the decision herself. And even if it was at all traumatic for her, it can't be more than a drop in the bucket compared to losing her father. I've seen kids her age speak at more conventional funerals. As long as it's voluntary, I don't have the slightest problem with it.

hild
July 8, 2009 12:59 PM

A younger child, yes, but she is 11. And 11-year-old girls can be pretty mature--it's that stretch of years where the difference between the sexes is huge. As noted, her brothers were present but didn't speak.

Cecelia
July 8, 2009 1:01 PM

yeah it looked spontaneous and her decision and the family did rather quickly end that segment - I thought it was okay cause she clearly seemed to want to say it. It did seem like those kids are close to their family and are loved in return which is encouraging in that one thinks they have been through enough already - and if the custody battles begin - they will be put through even more. I have been to "normal" funerals where 10 -12 year old kids spoke re: parents or grandparents.

Bethany
July 8, 2009 1:05 PM
http://eleventybillionthblog.blogspot.com/

I started to type a response here, but didn't want to type a mile-long comment. So I took to my own blog.

But here: http://eleventybillionthblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-long-exactly-can-you-shield-child.html

Travis Mamone
July 8, 2009 1:07 PM
http://tmamone.blogspot.com

I don't think the family made her do that, either. It was probably the most real momement from the memorial service. It also humanized Michael. In that moment he was neither a wacko nor a messiah: he was a daddy.

That was the only part of the memorial that I saw. Actually, that and Lionel Ritchie performing "Jesus is Love," which is one of my favorite gospel songs.

Heather
July 8, 2009 1:09 PM

The family didn't put her up to do it. She was asked if she wanted to say something and she did. They also asked Michael Jackson's oldest son and he said he didn't want to say anything, and he didn't.

I mean come on. Stop looking for reasons to criticize this situation. Not everything is as conspiratorial as all that. It was a genuine moment and should be left as it is.

Neil
July 8, 2009 1:29 PM

I thought it was Sarah Palin's idea...

Alicia
July 8, 2009 1:59 PM

While it seemed quite genuine and moving on her part, there is certainly room to question whether it was exploiting her grief and putting her in a public situation that she wasn't necessarily ready for.

Ken
July 8, 2009 2:55 PM

I think the kid probably wanted to speak, and perhaps since so many of his "close" friends were given that chance, it was right to allow her, as someone with cause for actual tears, to speak as well. But as someone on another Jackson thread put it, the whole televised spectacle was emotional pornography, an orgy of togetherness so shallow it was phony, and the family should have grieved in private.

Erin Manning
July 8, 2009 3:12 PM

My honest feeling: what the (deleted) were the kids doing at that public memorial in the first place?

They had already been, I believe, at the private service which was just family and a few close friends. They could also be present at whatever graveside service (if any) were to be held.

But putting them in that atmosphere full of strangers who were cheering and clapping at the various performers' efforts, with their father's casket on the stage beside them, was, in the most charitable way I can put it, a tremendous lapse of judgment on someone's part.

This isn't about "Should the kids have been present at their father's funeral," as most people think that children (aside from the very youngest ones) can benefit from the chance to say goodbye to a loved close relative. They had already done that at the private service. It was unnecessarily painful to subject them to this public circus.

Andrea
July 8, 2009 3:38 PM

I don't think it was appropriate for them to allow an 11-year-old girl to speak in front of 20,000 people and in front of a worldwide audience, no, or for her and her brothers to appear at said memorial, much less sing on stage. She should have attended the private memorial and stayed off the stage during the public memorial. What they've done is made her even more of a public figure than she was already fated to become and given the media footage to play over and over and over again if there's a custody battle or a battle for control of their inheritance. This is such a public, famously screwed up family that maybe it seemed normal and natural for them to give this child a chance to perform and speak to the public at her dad's funeral. Maybe the child herself has heard the news stories and wanted to tell off the media and everyone else who called her daddy weird. But it was NOT appropriate or in her best interests. A three-hour televised memorial service was an exercise in excess and fake emotion anyway. Honestly, I think they should not have held the public memorial and held a dignified, private funeral instead where the children could grieve without having millions of people scrutinizing their every word, move and feature to decide if they're biologically related to Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson. Bad, bad idea.

Lynn Gazis-Sax
July 8, 2009 3:41 PM
http://notfrisco2.com/leones

I think it was entirely appropriate to allow an eleven-year-old who wanted to speak the choice to speak. She's old enough to make that choice. I think it would be worse for her to watch all kinds of other people who were less close to him speak and be told she couldn't make the statement she wanted to make.

BobN
July 8, 2009 3:53 PM

The real shocker here is that I completely agree with Erin!

I've pretty successfully avoided the spectacle surrounding Jackson's death but inadvertently caught a bit of this while channel surfing last night. Now, I've seen it twice, since I watched it before commenting.

I highly doubt that was the fulfillment of a spontaneous wish on the part of the child. And even if it was, it should not have been indulged.

Rob
July 8, 2009 3:57 PM

There is of course a long history of this family's children being in the public and and performing. Don't know that I like the idea, but it has become their tradition.

DTH
July 8, 2009 4:45 PM

Mr. Dreher nails it again: "Those black people do some crazy things -- we'd never let anything like that happen in our neighborhood."

Horst
July 8, 2009 5:12 PM

Are you people seriously that deranged? The performers, speakers and attendees were honoring the person who died - I think that's a pretty healthy and worthwhile thing for the children of the deceased to see and experience. Why would you not want them to experience the love and goodwill of so many people? Weird.

Ken
July 8, 2009 5:32 PM

Horst, I think celebrity worship is a pretty shallow kind of love and goodwill.

bd_rucker
July 8, 2009 5:33 PM

I think it was fine that Paris was allowed to speak. She wanted to tell the world what kind of a father he was and she did.

Got to remember that this is a showbiz family, not a bunch of crunchy cons. Everything they do is flashy and much of it in the public eye.

I was so ready to criticize the whole memorial service on GP but was very surprised that it was tastefully done. IMO.

BobN
July 8, 2009 5:53 PM

Why would you not want them to experience the love and goodwill of so many people? Weird.

Uh... because the "love" and goodwill of strangers will not sustain them in life and living your life on the public stage is demonstrably harmful.

Ken
July 8, 2009 5:58 PM

"a showbiz family" . . . wasn't that where Michael's troubles started?

I think BobN nailed it.

tristan 1973
July 8, 2009 6:32 PM

Any reasonable person who's seen this clip can't help but feel that this was a pure heartfelt expression. Ron, is the summer heat warping your crunchy conservative brain? The Jackson family "put her up to it"? Gimme a f***in break.

Zoetius
July 8, 2009 7:27 PM

It was appropriate. She has no doubt heard the negative and the positive media reports about her father. I seen this a tweens push back against a big world he could never know this person like she did, weather accurate or not he was her only daddy.

tristan 1973
July 8, 2009 8:33 PM

On second thought, I'm very intrigued how this Michael Jackson phenomenon brings out a liberal-conservative divide. It's funny. Many (but of course, not all) liberal or independent thinkers reflect on the joy that Michael Jackson has brought to people's lives through his art and humanitarian work. Liberals, it should be said, are pretty much optimists when it comes to viewing the human condition. On the other hand, if you are a conservative, you are likely to assume the worst of Michael Jackson, in a way not so different from a conservative's mostly Hobbesian view of human nature.

Many conservatives -- but again, not all; I don't want to overgeneralize -- they rush to judgment with Jackson, that he was a pedophile even if he was never convicted of such charges, etc.. Most liberals will overlook Jackson's undeniably bizarre behavior for something much more meaningful: the love and faith that he had in the human spirit. Conservatives just can't go there because of the cynical way they're wired. It's their loss, ultimately. How can people go through life so eternally suspicious of others not like themselves?

Observer
July 8, 2009 8:36 PM

Who can know. But it looks as though this child wanted to make this statement, in public, to the crowd, to defend her daddy. Good for her, that's what I say.

She'll get a lot of satisfaction from this memory in the future.

BobN
July 8, 2009 10:46 PM

Any reasonable person

Wouldn't assume that she just happened to find her way onstage.

QuoVadisAnima
July 8, 2009 10:56 PM

@Tristan 1973,

You said, "Liberals, it should be said, are pretty much optimists when it comes to viewing the human condition".

Now that I have finished ROFLOL I would like to respond.
Had this been a Catholic priest, these "optimists" would have condemned him regardless of the court's verdict (& anyway, I thought Jackson settled as opposed to being acquitted) & would have slandered him in the media & probably even directly at his funeral with protests & pickets.

Meanwhile, the stories of those many families who were "encouraged" to accept settlements rather than taking their claims (& their already traumatized children) to court are still out there.

In all honesty, what would you think of a man who slept with little boys & had an unhealthy obsession with having little boy friends if he were some unknown entity without talent & loads of money? How generous would you be in giving such a one the benefit of the doubt?

I believe a more accurate generalization would be:

These optimistic liberals are certainly very generous when it comes to denying sin but quite scrooge-like in forgiving it.

Conservatives on the other hand are scrooge-like in denying sin, but generally more generous in forgiving it (repentance being a requisite for many).

Larry Anderson
July 8, 2009 10:56 PM

Oh, for crying out loud. Sure looked to me like a little girl who wanted to say something about her daddy. Might I humbly suggest that unless you've been a small child who's lost a parent, you don't know what the h*** you're talking about and should probably leave this one alone?

Sorry. My own father died when I was nine--been there, done that--and I had to fight to be allowed to view his body. All the fighting I could muster wasn't enough to be allowed to attend the funeral, and I'm still angry about it. Kids need to grieve too, y'know? Let the girl have her say.

RJohnson
July 9, 2009 12:03 AM

Let's see...we have a traumatized family, including young children. Most of the family are headed to a very public event, a funeral that will be seen before millions of people around the world. There will be celebrities there speaking about their fallen friend, the father of these children. There will be ceremony. And there, in the middle of it all, will be their father's casket, right in the middle of it all.

You'd think the family would have kept those little kids at home, don't you?

www.unctv.org/pressroom/jfk/images/AMEX3yearoldJFKjrSalutes.jpg

What was that mother thinking? Probably that she wanted the kids there with her, in the safest place she could think of...with the family.

Why would you think the Jackson family would think differently?

michael M
July 9, 2009 12:43 AM

What a circus. When I saw those witches surrounding that little girl and pushing her on to speak into the mike; I thought — how pathetic is this. Using this little girls grief to promote Michael Jacksons future legacy and profits. And the Media bought right into it. Lets face it , The jackson 5 would have been a musical footnote to pop history if it weren’t for Michael. He was the whole show.
Once his name began to come into question due to his own remarks regarding children in his bed the whole money making business began to go down the tube. Now with his death there is the chance that his family and estate can cash in . but not without first making him out to be a truly great father to his children. So what better way to promote him then to have Paris come up on stage , —This poor 11 year old girl.— and coach her into saying how great her dad was in life. I think that family is pathetic. Along with there high fashion mourning statement with the hats and dark glasses....Please give me a break. The whole thing made me sick. I wont deny that Michael was a great pop star in life, But to turn his death into a media circus is pathetic.
Michael Jackson, the father that he was always shielded his children from the media .
And to think that his 11 year old daughter would want to stand up in front of millions seems highly improbable. I ‘ll be willing to bet that in ten years she will be telling Night Line the real story of why she was put up on that stage. I’m sure she believed what she said but I don’t think she really wanted to be up there.

Observer
July 9, 2009 1:54 PM

I really do not think it is our business to second-guess this child's family as to what was and was not good for her in this context. The assumption in some of the comments above that this girl's family in essence does not love her, is prepared to use her for crass gain, or has fatally horrible judgment seems WAY out of line to me unless the commenters know these people personally. That the older women in her family are "witches." Come on.

This may well be a dysfunctional family. (We know that it has been in the past.) Welcome by the way to the human race. I think we need to give the adults, and the child, in this situation the benefit of the doubt.

Leslie
July 9, 2009 4:02 PM

I had mixed feelings too. I hope this will help Paris achieve some kind of closure and she may have wanted to speak directly to the crowd over the adults objections. Who knows? But, it was deeply moving and the most sincere tribute to M.J.

I found it less offensive than Brooke Shields grandstanding as though she was Jackson's best friend. She hadn't seen him since 1991.

sebastien allix
July 11, 2009 1:10 PM

hello my name is sebastien, I have 14 years, my home is in france the city is Hirel, in Ile et Vilaine, I am like you I was moved by paris jackson I know what I am saying has nothing do with the tribute but since I've seen paris j jackson I resent feeling love.I know that for some people I will look stupid,but I don t care.I love that you go see it and tell him what I've said. I hope you will thank you if you do .thank you

Rachel
July 12, 2009 12:28 PM

As a mother of three young women, I can tell you the body language of all involved shows the child was prompted, if not forced, to speak. If you watch the clip, she looks at the adult male with a look of distress and entreaty... not a lip reader, but would be curious what she said. "Do I have to?" .. "I don't want to" ?

The adults intimidating her with closeness.. hands in her face, holding the microphone... if what they wanted to convey was simply a young girl paying tribute to her day.. they missed by a bit. What I saw.. and friends who have discussed agree... was a strange attempt to say to the public.. "see??? he was a normal person"

How sad that someone who guarded his children to the point of obsession was ultimately betrayed by his own family who has made them a public spectacle.

Rachel
July 12, 2009 12:29 PM

sorry, that was tribute to her DAD

nikita
July 14, 2009 10:33 AM
http://irealand

To paris
hi i am so sorry you hat to go throw that i am from irealand and the same age as you talk to me any time you are a pretty girl and you should always have your dad in your heart we all loved your dad and your really pretty write back love nikitaxxxxxxxxx

alana kane
July 14, 2009 10:40 AM
http://ireland

hi paris
Im really sorry about what happened to your dad i would hate that to happen to me.your dad was a legened and the king of pop!!!
He was amazing

luv alana xxx

sebastien allix
July 15, 2009 3:05 PM

hello my name is sebastien, I have 14 years, my home is in france the city is Hirel, in Ile et Vilaine, I am like you I was moved by paris jackson I know what I am saying has nothing do with the tribute but since I've seen paris j jackson I resent feeling love.I know that for some people I will look stupid,but I don t care.I love that you go see it and tell him what I've said. I hope you will thank you if you do .thank you

sebastien allix
July 16, 2009 1:40 PM

hello my name is Sebastien, I have 14 years, my home is the city in france is Hirel, in Ile et Vilaine, please, what I say is true I am really in love with paris jackson i love really out with her so I ask you to go see it and say it is important to me I ask you to do so. I would be recognizing. if you tell him, tell him that loves Sebastien Allix. answer me quickly to my e-mail that I let you. thank you if you do

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