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Juan Williams on GOP, Dem mistakes

Thursday October 22, 2009

Categories: Conservatism, Liberalism

Juan Williams was in Dallas yesterday, and said some controversial, interesting things at a luncheon. Read all about it here. I like these excerpts:

On the No. 1 mistake liberals make: "The world is changing fast. There's a need for innovation," and "liberals are slow to react. For example, the biggest challenge of our time is education, and the poor quality of education for minorities. How can we have a discussion about equality when there's such an achievement gap? How are we not talking about the breakdown of the family-70% in the black community? Yet the left is absent on those issues. That pocket of issues requires innovative thinking. You don't see the left changing with the times."

On the No. 1 mistake conservatives make: "Republicans feel embattled, and I think it's been a mistake by some Republicans not to be more engaged in the health care debate. There's also a changing demographic: more people of color, younger people, and there has to be a Republican approach [to them]. There has to be a clear message sent, and a willingness for the party to engage. That's crucial if it's to grow."

I would say that the two most important mistakes both sides make are complementary.

No. 1 mistake American liberals make is to devalue the paramount role of culture in determining behavior, particular in terms of success and failure. They are afraid to privilege some cultural values over others. This is to say, I'm pretty much agreeing with Williams. The No. 1 mistake American conservatives make is to devalue the role social and economic structures play in creating culture (well, their more particular mistake in the current moment is to be more interested in heretic hunting than innovative thinking, but you've heard that from me already).

What do you think the No. 1 mistakes each side makes are? If you answer, answer for both liberals and conservatives, not just one side. (Feel free also to comment on Juan Williams' remarks).

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The Anti-Krugman
October 23, 2009 4:26 PM

"What the bleep are you talking about? If they enact a public option as a part of health care reform, that would certainly qualify as a "leftward" move. But outside of that, what leftist actions has the Congress taken in the last half dozen years that should get anyone excited? I ask because there's a heck of a lot of leftists who would love to know what your talking about so they won't feel so disappointed in Obama and the Democrats."

Higher taxes, concentrated power in DC, extreme regulation, Bailouts, the growth of pure insanity like Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, the funding by the billions, of leftist brainwashing efforts like Acorn and the scores of money wasters like them, and the list goes on and on.

I mean, seriously, you actually think we're not living in a country with totally runamock government? Both the states and the federal government are so extremely far beyond their boundaries it is a complete affront to even the idea of "certain inalienable rights".

What planet do you live on where you can't recognize the absolutely crushing leviathan of government on every level? Do you REALLY think that government and the cost of its regulations should consume the vast majority of everything to work to earn, and that is "normal"? Everything you buy has some huge portion of "government inflicted" costs built into it. Either it's direct, and you fork over the money, or its indirect, and you buy something imported from some place where manufacturing fled to escape the devastating crush of insane power-mad government.

Upper middle class people can't save a dime. We're actually DEBATING having the federal government force you to buy a very expensive service, without any option. Buy or jail. That's not liberal insanity??? Of course it is. In a sane era that idea would be so reviled that those who suggested it would be instantly deprived of power and possibly jailed, for suggesting such an oppressive notion so violently crushing to the notion of constitutional government.

We haven't lurched to the far radical left? Of course we have. The fact that it is actually a possibility that Obamacare or whatever name you might assign it can be written in Congress is absolute and unarguable proof of the current present radical extremism, coupled with the near absolute loss of freedom. The very idea it would have to be "debated" at all is proof positive that the country has wildly lurched left.

Back in the days when rationality governed the debate, the idea was laughed out of polite company for it's sheer stupidity. To their credit, the left has been persistent... Those on the left have devoted their entire lives and a political party to this extremism. Two generations of indoctrination in schools, almost complete extinction of rationality in the media, entertainment, and art worlds HAS extinguished the light of intelligence, and so dumbed down the average mind that they're now willing to be so bullied and controlled, and the controlling efforts started the all new level and stage a decade ago.

And now it is time for the right to be as dedicated, resolved, determined, and indeed, as forceful. It is time to extinguish the power of the insanity of the left and be replaced with some light of freedom. The kind that caused the building of this nation in the first place. The kind of light that inspired a statue in New York Harbor.

Sane US: "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,"

Insane US: "Give me free stuff!"

Insane politics: "Vote for me and I'll give you stuff someone else pays for".

Franklin Evans
October 23, 2009 4:51 PM

So, A-K, what you are really saying is that the Republican party is governed by closet leftists.

It makes an insane sort of sense...

MBunge
October 23, 2009 6:12 PM

"Higher taxes, concentrated power in DC, extreme regulation, Bailouts, the growth of pure insanity like Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, the funding by the billions, of leftist brainwashing efforts like Acorn and the scores of money wasters like them, and the list goes on and on."


1. What taxes have gone up in the last 6 years?

2. The current spurt of power concentration in DC started immediately after 9/11. Why did it take you several years to notice or be concerned?

3. I guess you can classify bailouts as leftist. But then you've got to embrace global economic and financial collapse as conservative.

4. Please tell me you're not one of those ignorant buffoons who think Freddie and Fannie were the cause of the housing market meltdown.

5. Although, I guess if you think ACORN is a serious problem and not an amusing sideshow, you may be one of those ignorant buffoons.

And by the way...

"Back in the days when rationality governed the debate"


When the bleep has rationality EVER governed political debate? Or do you just "before women and blacks could vote"?

Mike

Shawn
October 23, 2009 6:49 PM

We're actually DEBATING having the federal government force you to buy a very expensive service, without any option. Buy or jail.

I assume you mean healthcare. I had heard the Baucus plan would levy stiff fines against those who do not purchase insurance, but jail?

Jon
October 23, 2009 9:13 PM

Re: I had heard the Baucus plan would levy stiff fines against those who do not purchase insurance, but jail?

The Baucus plan fines are pretty nominal and large numbers of people would be exempt even from those, which is why the insurance companies are so upst. And no one would be sent to jail, unless they flat out committed contempt of court by refusing payment when they had the resources, which is true of every fine, even traffic tickets.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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