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Science isn't only about the facts

Wednesday November 4, 2009

Categories: Science
The biologist Olivia Judson says that science is about a lot more than mere measurements. Excerpt: I mention this because science is usually presented as a body of knowledge -- facts to be memorized, equations to be solved, concepts to...
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Anon
November 4, 2009 3:42 PM

My science education (high school-level)was both about facts and theories, and also about the scientific method, which was taught through labs. It was also about becoming familiar with the domains and sub-domains of science, or at least a few of the simpler ones. Is this not the way it's done anymore?

John Médaille
November 4, 2009 4:42 PM
http://distributism.blogspot.com

My favorite quote from Feynman: "Men used to believe that the stars moved because each one had an angel to push it. We no longer believe in angels, but we still don't know why the starts move."

Now THAT'S the expanding frontier of ignorance!

Tim
November 4, 2009 5:45 PM

The second paragraph especially sounds borrowed from Thomas Kuhn, the philosopher of science who popularized the distinction between "normal" and "revolutionary" science (in his book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions). Wonder if she's read him!

Brian
November 4, 2009 7:25 PM

Science is the idea that we can learn about the world through observing it. Specific observations are facts. How we put some group of facts together in order to try to understand something larger, and sometimes (but not always) in order to be able to make predictions about what some future observation will reveal, is not some deterministic act. There is always an infinite number of ways to do so. Literally infinite. One can draw an infinite number of curves through two points, but only one straight line (assuming plane geometry, rather than spherical, of course). We use ideas like Occam's Razor (or reduced chi-squared tests, for a more mathematical formulation) to express ways to go about picking one particular explanation or theory, but even then there is a a definite aesthetic at work. Too few scientists are capable of communicating in this way how science really works.

meh
November 4, 2009 7:37 PM

Rod, you don't take her piece to mean that there's hope for the "In Search of..." type of pseudoscience you're into, like your "distance healer", to be proven true, do you? Because I don't think that's the way she meant it.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/01/edge-2009-what-will-change-eve.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search_of..._(TV_series)

RobL
November 4, 2009 9:17 PM

There are some inherent problems for conservative religion from science:

The first is that science is empirical, look at the evidence. Traditional religion is very reluctant at looking at their own doctrines, scriptures, morality from an empirical point of view.

A second it that the basic attitude of science is one of skepticism. Again conservative religion basically does not like that idea. Many find it sacrilegious.

One can find the teachings and ethics of Jesus to be fairly compelling from both an empirical and skeptical point of view.

Gerard Nadal
November 4, 2009 9:40 PM

Rod,

Thanks for this post! In my graduate work, I spent 5 years methodically pursuing the next phase of my mentors research, which led down one blind alley after another. Then one night in the lab, I made an accidental discovery that opened an entirely new field within my discipline in microbiology.

The Priest who was my life mentor, Rev. Luke McCann, Ph.D. (Columbia University) and another father to me, had on his wall a quote from a Columbia University professor from 1954. Nothing describes what being a scientist is all about, what science is all about, what true scholarship is all about better than this.


The True Scholar


“It is a familiar fact that the true scholar is more interested in what he may know tomorrow than in what he knows today, and is more likely to want to talk about it. The modesty of the true scholar is neither a gesture, nor a joke. To him it is quite literally the case that a science of anything presupposes a vast ignorance concerning it: an ignorance, indeed, so vast that even its very nature may never be understood. He as a scientist, in other words, may never become clear as to what it is of which he is ignorant; he may never learn just what it is that he should seek to know. Meanwhile, however, he has his method; he does know how to proceed within the field of ignorance he has managed to define. And that one field is vast enough; nor will all of it, perhaps, ever be conquered. So he is always busy, with scarcely the time to pause and tell us, should we ask, how much he knows."

Professor Mark Van Doren
Columbia University
Bicentennial Convocation 1954


It now hangs on the wall in my study, and serves as a daily reminder of who and what I am to be as a Ph.D. in Biology.

Charles Cosimano
November 4, 2009 10:41 PM

The Scientific Method, while still being useful in experimental work, has about as much relation to real science as it is done now as the pitiful ravings of the professional sceptics who would not know genuine research if the test tube blew up in their faces and who still live in the 19th century.

Science is a process which uses a number of tools in the hope of finding out how things work and where the processes that cause them come from. The more we learn about the universe, the more we learn that the math is not the territory but the map may be.

DavidTC
November 5, 2009 12:17 AM

The thing is, if anyone can figure out what comes next, they probably figured it out years ago. Current scientific theory is extended well past what is proven, and each proof is just a refinement of what people figured out a while back.

It's sorta like rafting down a river taking GPS measurements...at any given point, you can pretty much guess the next dozen measurements, and a tiny bit of observation will show you the next mile of river even if you don't know exactly the lat/long it will turn out to be.

So there's no real 'OH WOW' moment for most of science. Scientists see bends coming well before they get to them. And they know roughly what they can't see yet and when they'll be able to see it.

It's not even 'facts, facts, facts'. It's 'possible slight refinement of facts, possible slight refinement of facts, possible slight refinement of facts'. It is amazingly boring and tedious.


But sometimes people leap out of the river and run in some other direction, and sometimes, rarely, stumble across some other river.

And, despite what Olivia Judson says, doing this, and discovering a new river, is actually pretty rare compared to the rest of science. It's just a lot more important than the rest of it combined. (Because, frankly, anyone can measure the existing river that everyone knows about.)

Abelard Lindsey Tyler Mavrides
November 5, 2009 12:25 AM

There is a knowledge frontier that is continually expanding outward. Everything within it is known fact, everything outside it is unknown, otherwise referred to as "supernatural".

One man's magic is another man's engineering. Supernatural is a null term. One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.

Sin lies in the causing of harm to others. All other sin is invented nonsense.

hemant
November 5, 2009 12:32 AM
http://www.globaljournals.org

Science is a process which uses a number of tools in the hope of finding out how things work and where the processes that cause them come from. The more we learn about the universe, the more we learn that the math is not the territory but the map may be.

Quiddity
November 5, 2009 12:53 AM

Re: science -- as the physicist Richard Feynman once wrote -- creates an "expanding frontier of ignorance,"

That may be true as far as detail>/i> is concerned (especially about complex systems - biological and mechanical), but we are close to having most of the forces and particles figured out. Yes, there are a few more to produce (or show can't exist), but it really has been a triumph of science over the last 400 years in describing these fundamental elements of nature.

Gerard Nadal
November 5, 2009 2:02 AM

DavidTC,

Really?! What a horrifically sad view of modern science you have. Are you a trained scientist?

I agree that much of the work can be pretty tedious, but then Thomas Edison could have told us that. How many tries before he nailed the light bulb? I think that we have too many hagiographies about scientists such as Darwin, Pasteur, Marie Curie and the gang. Try to place yourself on the HMS Beagle for Darwin's journey. The stench of sailors who bathed infrequently, the tedium of long months at sea, worms in the meat and flour, a small and cramped vessel...He probably would have agreed with your assessment some days.

The truth is that it is the TYPE of discovery that has changed. The age of the independent researcher alone in his/her lab is pretty much over. Even then, for every scientist such as Griffith, who discovered the principle of cell transformation, there were thousands whose work is unknown to us. Hershey and Chase discovered that it was DNA and not protein that was the genetic material. How many protein biochemists barked up the wrong tree.

It has ever been thus in science. These blind alleys need to be explored and then closed out. It gives the field a general direction toward new discovery.

You are correct in that much of what is done today consists of charting the next bend in the river. However, today's discoveries are often the result of people with great powers of synthesis. Those who look at what everyone has looked at, and seen what no one else has seen:the very essence of discovery.

Yes, Ramon y Cajal discovered much in neuroanatomy. However, pick up Eric Kandel and Scwartz's Principles of Neurophysiology, and see the stunning beauty and complexity of the nervous system, as represented by thousands of collective years of human research over the past century.

Antony van Leeuwenhoek may have been the first to visualize cells in 1668, but pick up Bruce Alberts et al., Molecular Biology of the Cell, and marvel at the tens of thousands of collective years of research in the last century, the absolutely mind-blowing complexity of the average cell with its 30+ thousand genes and tens of thousands of coordinated biochemical reactions.

Then consider how far we have advanced medicine as a result. Look at how we are bringing cancer to its knees, how HIV is increasingly becoming a disease that can be managed over decades as a chronic illness, and not a death sentence. Look at our ability to genetically engineer microbes to produce human hormones such as insulin and growth hormone.

What van Leewenhoek, Darwin, and Pasteur would have given to live in this age and be able to manipulate nature as we do, to share in the knowledge we have, to sit with just one graduate textbook.

Even Paul Simon got it 20 years ago in "Boy in the Bubble"

These are the days of miracle and wonder
This is the long distance call
The way the camera follows us in slo-mo
The way we look to us all
The way we look to a distant constellation
That's dying in a corner of the sky
These are the days of miracle and wonder
And don't cry baby, don't cry
Don't cry

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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