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Ukraine: H1N1 outbreak, or something worse?

Tuesday November 10, 2009

Categories: Varia

A longtime reader and commenter writes:

I'm writing to you in part because this sounds somewhat like something you'd be interested in, and in part because I'm a bit confused by the article I've attached below, which seems to be the only one I can find that makes any sense at all and at least appears to be from an actual news source, rather than a blog (albeit, it is a very obscure news source...).

Apparently there is a hemorrhagic fever spreading like wildfire in the Ukraine...but they are insisting it is only H1N1 flu and there are no international news reports? It is said to have started just over a week ago, but there are already 95 confirmed deaths, and over half a million infected. The tinfoil hat types are hyperventilating and saying that this is pneumonic plague, with the death toll underestimated by thousands.

Has anyone you know heard anything about this? I'm somewhat befuddled.

Here's the link.

Either this is a hoax, or blown way out of proportion, or a conspiracy of an unprecedented magnitude. And I am not a fan of conspiracy theories, so I'm voting for one of the first two.

Nevertheless, given that you are an actual journalist, perhaps you can shed some light on why there is not a breath of this in anything resembling mainstream media?

Well, I don't put credence in rumor sites. But the MSM reports that Ukraine does have a pretty serious H1N1 problem, but I can't find anything beyond that on a reputable journalism site. On the other hand, the science blog Recombinomics, which tracks news and information about viral pandemics, has some pretty alarming reports. Recomb doesn't repeat some conspiracy-blog claims that this is some sort of biological warfare experiment gone bad. Rather, it suggests that the H1N1 virus might have mutated in Ukraine into a deadlier version akin to the 1918 epidemic version, to which it's genetically similar. Excerpt from the Nov. 9 posting:

It has now been more than a week since samples from Ukraine were sent to the WHO regional lab, Mill Hill in London. Although comments have been made that at least 15 samples were H1N1 confirmed, and the sequences showed no large changes or resistance to oseltamivir, there have been no updates. The absence of additional information or release of sequences, increases concerns that small changes undergoing further analysis are causing delays.

In the days post shipment, cases in Ukraine have quadrupled to over 1 million and the reported fatalities have grown from 30 to 174. The clinical presentation of 90 of the fatalities was classical H1N1 linked hemorrhagic pneumonia, which led to the "total destruction" of both lungs. These fatal cases were hospitalized 3-7 days after disease onset, highlighting the rapid progression of the infection in a large number of patients, suggesting genetic changes in the H1N1 virus.

Although politicians and media reports continue to downplay the significance by citing a small number of lab confirmed cases or more traditional pneumonia deaths, the number of fatal hemorrhagic cases was unusually large. These deaths involve hemorrhagic pneumonia in previously health young adults.

Follow the latest reports on Recombinomics, which keeps a close eye on this stuff.

On the other hand, my personal and confidential Ukrainian source writes:

IT IS BOOOLLLSSHHHEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Below is exact quote (well, polite quote...) from my brother-in-law who lives in Kiev:

"Such stupidity is difficult to find even in Ukraine itself....."

He goes on to speculate that there is Machiavellian national politics behind this, driving people to panic for political reasons. Plus, he said, Ukrainian health officials are "totally incompetent."

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notepad publishing
November 11, 2009 1:29 PM
http://www.conspirare.net

August 14 the Huffington Post writes about 'Joseph Moshe, Man Suspected Of Making Threats Against White House'. November 2 AP publishes that 'The World Health Organization said Monday there is no evidence that Ukraine's outbreak is particularly severe', PrisonPlanet publishes that 'Joseph Moshe had called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapon that was being prepared by Baxter International’s Ukraine plant' and Kavkacenter writes 'it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine'. November 7 Infowars Ireland publishes 'Joseph Moshe Whistleblower Arrest! Ukraine New Pandemic is Bioweapon!' and writes 'Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny Aircraft are Spraying Aerosols over Cities, Martial Law Expected'. November 9 FTO writes 'The mysterious case of Joseph Moshe and the pneumonic plague'. November 10 AFP publishes 'Ukraine's epidemic of flu and acute respiratory disorders has now affected more than a million people'.

How serious is the H1N1 outbreak in Ukraine and who is Joseph Moshe, the man who withstands four rounds of chemical agents tossed inside the car? Is it just a coincidence that Baxter has facilities in Kiev, Ukraine?


Source: Wikipedia


Apparently Joseph Moshe is a former Israeli Mossad agent with dual US/Israeli citizenshop, who specializes in biological warfare. Apparently his qualifications as a microbiologist are confirmed by his research. And apparently he was taken down by Los Angeles police for threatening the White House.

But where is Joseph Moshe now?

And why is mainstream media not reporting news about Joseph Moshe? Should the worldwide public not be informed about John Moshe's whereabouts - and the information he wants to share?

And how did Joseph Moshe know - in August - that a biological weapon would be spread in the Ukraine via a flu vaccine?

And why light aircraft has been spotted spraying an unidentified substance in Kiev, Ukraine?

Again. More questions and no answers.

How comes the mainstram media has trouble selling newspapers, when it does not report on things that matter?

I would like to read many interviews with Mr. Moshe. I'm confident I would be able to take a balanced decision on the validity of his claims.

But where is he?

Wanted
ALIVE - for interviews

Joseph Moshe, 56
Of Los Angeles, former Israeli Mossad agent
specialized in biological warfare who would like to warn people about a biological weapon that was being prepared by Baxter International’s Ukraine plant

Joseph Moshe is missing since over 4 months. Humanity has a right to know his whereabouts. Is he detained at Patton State Hospital?
(Last location according to case number SA07201901 published 26 October 2009 at LSAD Inmate Information Center).

Read the full article with all media references
http://www.conspirare.net

colleen
November 11, 2009 5:04 PM

All right this is my third type. Folks, are you familiar with the term "Extraordinary Rendition?" It does make one think this could be the fate of Joseph Moshe. We are indeed living in perilous times. Read Matthew 24. America's liberty bell will be silenced for good.

ratiocination
November 12, 2009 12:49 AM

I don't know anything about the Baltimore Chronicle, but they have this article up now:

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2009/111109Lendman.shtml

It's a bit long, but attempts to be a thorough rundown of all the facts surrounding this situation...

Campbell Morrison
November 22, 2009 6:49 PM

So its now 23 Nov and 300+ people have died, huge numbers are in the overrun hospital system and over a million infected. Do you think its a hoax now or overstated, do you really think its unlikely that a virus wouldn't mutate in such a great pool of humankind, are you not worried that the Ukriane is right in Europe and WHO etal are all saying its not worth trying to limit the boarders because it doesn't work. I'm not a Conspiracy theorist either but it surprises me that the world media seem to have no interest in this and yet last year one person dying seemed to make headlines

Arianna
November 30, 2009 12:45 PM

Campbell! That's EXACTLY what I said on my fb! (limiting the borders because it doesn't work)I was challenged, and accused of wearing a tin foil hat....

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