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Gay marriage compromise in D.C.?

posted by jmcgee | 6:31am Friday November 20, 2009

The intense debate over the same-sex marriage bill in Washington, DC has now led to talk that maybe the two sides can come to a compromise.

From the Washington Post:

Some D.C. Council members and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton are reaching out to the Catholic Archdiocese of Washington to see whether they can find a compromise so the Church will not end its social services contracts with the city if the council legalizes same-sex marriage.

After a week of heated rhetoric, District officials said Thursday that they see a way for Catholic Charities to continue operating programs with city money while assuring that the organization’s gay and heterosexual employees would be treated equally if they got married.

“The rights of [gay] partners cannot be any different from similar situated couples, but with that said, if other jurisdictions have found a way to accommodate Catholic Charities, that would be very much be desired,” said Norton (D).

Norton, who said she was trying to make sure Congress does not intervene in the dispute, spoke briefly with Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl on Thursday.

Meanwhile, D.C. Council members David A. Catania (I-At Large) and Phil Mendelson (D-At Large) sent Wuerl a letter Wednesday urging that Catholic Charities embrace a policy similar to one in effect at Georgetown University.

They said that the Catholic university gives benefits to some same-sex couples even though the university does not officially recognize that the beneficiaries are of the same sex.

Susan Gibbs, a Church spokeswoman, said archdiocese officials were happy that city leaders were “finally responding,” but she said she was not sure the proposal alleviates the Church’s concerns.

There’s more at the link. Stay tuned.



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posted November 20, 2009 at 8:47 am


………even though the university does not officially recognize that the beneficiaries are of the same sex.
Deacon Greg,
This is the FIRST time since you moved here that I actually laughed outloud. Maybe I need to lighten up more.



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Your Name

posted November 20, 2009 at 8:49 am


Oh my the way….
RIDICULOUS!!!!!!



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Ray Marshall

posted November 20, 2009 at 9:30 am


Georgetown and its hypocrisy is to be the standards for the Church and its ministries?
Will we have to cover or remove the crucifixes, statuses and stained glass from all of our churches and offices?



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Henrietta22

posted November 20, 2009 at 11:39 am


Why can’t conditions be out and honest instead of finding corners to turn that can make the complainers happy with? The Episcopal Diocese said in Washington D.C. that they could probably take over the charities that the R.C. was covering if they dropped them because of their problem with SS Marriage, etc. This would really clear the air in Wash D.C.



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My Name

posted November 20, 2009 at 11:57 am


Excellent. We’re compromising with religious zealots that are using the plight of the homeless to strong-arm policy in government. Yay!! No religious group should ever dictate legislation. If the United States had allowed compromise based on religious bigotry we’d still have slavery in the south. How pathetic.



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DML

posted November 20, 2009 at 12:49 pm


Now I see that the Diocese of Wilmington is begging the court overseeing its bankruptcy that it want to provide benefits to its pedophile priests. If these criminals are to be entitled to fringe benefits, why not extend benefits to law-abiding Catholics who work as employees for DC area Catholic Charities?



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Your Name

posted November 20, 2009 at 3:38 pm


I certainly agree, My Name, that your reasoning is pathetic. The Archdiocese isnt dictating legislation and it isnt strongarming policy in government. It has informed the government of possibly unforeseen ramifications of policies proposed by others, so that the government may make an informed decision.
It isnt our fault if Catholics Charities provides the best care at the best cost. It certainly isnt our fault that we can care for the elast of these on a shoestring budget. And it isnt our fault you want policies that would make it impossible for us to continue to do that particular charitable work.



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My Name

posted November 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm


RRRiiiiigggghhhhhtttt. “unforeseen ramifications”. In other words if you don’t play by our bigoted rules we’re taking our ball and leaving, how very charitable of them…but they’re not dictating policy. Sure, sure. I stand by my statement, you and your ‘faith’ are pathetic.



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kenneth

posted November 20, 2009 at 7:04 pm


So the leaders of this church charity are going to abandon thousands of the poor because they might not get their own special veto over the political process. I think the admissions committee on their judgement day is going to have a real intresting discussion when their cases come up on the docket.



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Worm

posted November 20, 2009 at 8:50 pm


On the remote chance that someone criticizing the church above is willing to entertain a different explanation of what is going on…
It would seem that this charity is doing a good job at what it does. The government would like to change the rules so as to force recepients of the funds to play by certain rules, rules that the Church cannot accept. At this point, the Church can simply stop accepting the money. It is not unreasonable to at least explore the possibility of some form of consideration from the government before just giving up. When the government says no, and insists on enforcing the new rules, and the Church says no thank you to the money, this is somehow the Church’s fault? That makes absolutely no sense.
As for the Church abandoning thousands of poor, that is a red herring. First, the Church will continue to serve as best it can, albeit with diminished resources. Second, those resources that the Church would have used can just as easily go to some other group that also helps the poor.



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Mike L

posted November 21, 2009 at 11:04 am


It strikes me that it the Church receives an exemption, and other groups do not, then the Church has been given a financial advantage over other groups, and I can see quick law suits coming.
If all groups are given exemptions, then it becomes financially favorable to hire gays because of the lower cost. In time we might find all of our charities run by gays, and in this way the Church would be supporting gay marriages by giving them preference to jobs.
While I am being a bit funny, I can see the above happening. Maybe one cannot win no matter what they do :) .



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Yeah, here's a compromise

posted December 2, 2009 at 2:50 pm


The Catholic bishops can go back to covering up child sexual abuse, and stop attacking gay families like mine!



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