This gay group (as usual) is rude and intolerant of Christians seeking a life better served outside of a sexual identity. This Gay Activist group of homosexuals and their supporters should leave the Christian campus and go find their lascivious proclivities elsewhere. The Q in gay recruitment stands for “questioning.” That is about as creepy as it gets. Cruising to find people at a vulnerable place in their lives to lure them into the world of homosexuality is evil.
This group should be highlighted for what they are as individuals. People looking to lure Christians into a life and lifestyle that opposes Christian culture and Christian truth.
Like Jude wrote at the beginning of the Church. Jude 1:
3Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. 4For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.
They are godless men,
who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality
and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
. . . 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion.
. . . 17But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.”
19These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts . . .
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There are few worse plagues entering The Church than the immorality and permissiveness inherent in gay culture. Gay activists should be confronted everywhere they try to take root in The Church.

I am very glad to hear of this group as they try to live their faith. I am very sorry to read the comment above. God grant us all the grace to learn to live in peace with one another, free of judgment.

Free of judgement? But yet you judge the other comment as intolerant. Should not you not judge those who oppose gay “rights” in the Church? Is judgement only good for one but not for the other? It rather strikes me as hypocritical. Be hones and say that you judge those against gay lifestyle as intolerant and we’ll respect you for it. But the “do not judge” statement is worn, tired and insecere.

Fran is opposing Saint Jude and Christ Jesus.
I’m not concerned in the slightest about her/his judgment.
Typical of a gay activist that’s all.

I keep waiting – tis the season of Advent after all – for the church to put into actions its words about respect and dignity to men and women who are gay.
Archbishop Wuerl, of D.C., wrote how the church “is and always will be welcoming” to people seeking a deeper relationship with Jesus.
Wouldn’t a university, esp. a Catholic university in the archbishop’s backyard, be that place to form young gay Catholics?

Some times it seems so very hard to be tolerent of gays period for myself at least.Its kinda the same to me as abortion rights people who want to be Catholic.At our best we must tolerent ,and do our best to protect these people from harm, however we never have to say that their life style or beliefs are okay. If telling them that their choices could surely lead them on a path to hell is a sin or makes me a bad person then so be it. Murder, same sex sex, and failure to hold God in reverance are all sins, I didn’t make the rules, and I don’t believe that you can just go through life deciding which rules you want to follow.

Our modern culture has accepted “gay” as normal. Of course gay is the modern newspeak for homosexual attraction and homosexual attraction according to Church teaching is a deeply disordered affliction far from “normal”. God made us all men and women and gave the male and female union the ability to reproduce naturally. Homosexuality is an aberration of nature. Those afflicted with it should seek to change or at the very least live in chastity in a celibate state. This of course will be totally derided and denied by our culture. Homosexual sexual activity is as sinful as adultery and other immoral actions, a rebellion against God, natural law and nature.

Our modern culture has accepted “gay” as normal. Of course gay is the modern newspeak for homosexual attraction and homosexual attraction according to Church teaching is a deeply disordered affliction far from “normal”. God made us all men and women and gave the male and female union the ability to reproduce naturally. Homosexuality is an aberration of nature. Those afflicted with it should seek to change or at the very least live in chastity in a celibate state. This of course will be totally derided and denied by our culture. Homosexual sexual activity is as sinful as adultery and other immoral actions, a rebellion against God, natural law and nature.

The last comment was mine. Forgot to put the name.

Mere_Me,
Why don’t you “real” Catholics just get to the point and canonize Hitler?

I’m sorry to hear that Catholic University hasn’t elected to go in the direction of greater tolerance. It sounds like this is a very conservative group of gay students, and at least the university should give them some kind of support. Such tolerance doesn’t have to go against the teachings of the church. FYI I am not a Catholic, but am familiar with this university, having spent some time there.

There are coordinated efforts by gay activists to enter schools at all levels and organize opposition. It’s not just at the university, either. In Concord, MA just this past weekend the high school presented “Falsettos,” a play focusing on homosexuality, bisexuality and adultery. One of the leads was a 15-year-old boy. The play was directed by an openly gay math teacher who is a board member of GLSEN and a friend of Kevin Jennings, Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” currently in the news for “Fistgate.” (Jennings, btw, got his start in Concord.) Think of this: The high school play before Christmas is virtually X-rated! And the local churches did nothing — including the local Catholic church. Here is a news link:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/concord/news/education/x2086037893/CCHSs-Falsettos-creates-controversial-buzz
So many Catholics who bash the church over the sex abuse scandal keep silent about this kind of scandal, reported in the media. Why? And when will the archdiocese of Boston take note?

What if there was a group of Neo-Nazis who wanted to form a recognized group in the University? Would the “tolerance” key word would be used then?

If you read the article, you see that Catholic University DID have a “tolerance” for gay student groups, until the groups turned into gay advocacy groups who went directly against church teaching. Having trusted once and been burned, I don’t think it is unreasonable for the school to say, “no, we’re not getting involved in this, again.”
This is a very small group of students, getting a great deal more press than, for instance, the CUA students who do a great deal for serving the whole community of DC, not merely the “gay” or the “feminist” or the “whateverspecialinterestgroup” community. In the Phelps College Guide, the school has an excellent “tolerance’ rating with gay students saying they feel no animosity at all.
It’s so easy for the press to spotlight and isolate a group, and then create a narrative out of whole cloth. And it is so easy for some to buy into it and immediately go into “outrage” mode. It’s tiresome. I begin to think media is the death of civilization.

Good point RGB. It would seem that our Hitler lover can’t tolerate Catholics. This is perhaps a very good thing in it’s self. Catholics the original Christians via Saint Paul, Saint Peter,and the rest of Jesus’s followers would find it hard to understand the hatred that Frank has toward the church. However as Pauls reading from yesterday as he sat in a deep dark,and dank prison, let us rejoice and be glad for our blessings and pray for those who despise us.As I noted earlier God made the rules, not man. He just wants us to do our best to live by them.

Frank
December 14, 2009 11:53 AM
Mere_Me,
Why don’t you “real” Catholics just get to the point and canonize Hitler?
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We’re anti Pederasty too.

Here is how Sodoma nd Gomorrah got that way:
Chris
December 14, 2009 12:21 PM
There are coordinated efforts by gay activists to enter schools at all levels and organize opposition.
It’s not just at the university, either.
In Concord, MA just this past weekend the high school presented “Falsettos,” a play focusing on homosexuality, bisexuality and adultery.
One of the leads was a 15-year-old boy.
The play was directed by an openly gay math teacher who is a board member of GLSEN and a friend of Kevin Jennings, Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” currently in the news for “Fistgate.”
(Jennings, btw, got his start in Concord.) Think of this: The high school play before Christmas is virtually X-rated!
And the local churches did nothing — including the local Catholic church. Here is a news link:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/concord/news/education/x2086037893/CCHSs-Falsettos-creates-controversial-buzz
So many Catholics who bash the church over the sex abuse scandal keep silent about this kind of scandal, reported in the media.
Why? And when will the archdiocese of Boston take note?
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Read the Sodomites response to Lot.
They’re just as bad these days.

Frank,
For you to compare those who oppose gay marriage to canonizing Hitler is flat out rediculous. I just like to wring people’s necks when they associate the Church’s teaching on homosexuality with Nazism. Your post should be deleted and has no place on here. Are you that same dude from Gerald Augustinas’ blog? You sound familiar. Did you know that some of the Nazi officials were gay? Yep, sure were. Next time, post something a little more civil than this.

Reading some of these comments, I am pretty disappointed. I am open to all pooints of view, but the anti-gay vitriol really turns me off. I guess I just don’t see the point-does anyone really think that screaming and calling names is going to change anyone’s mind or heart? I got some good advice here-pray, study, act. Whether you hate gays, or you advocate acceptance of gays, we all need to pray for God to change our minds-to “put on Jesus”, as St. Paul advised. Then we study what the scriptures say, from Genesis on, and what the Church teaches, and how the Church evolves. Then we need to act-all people of goodwill should be welcome at the gay student meetings. Just as all should be welcome at the heterosexual student chastity groups.

We should applaud the effort’s of CUA administration to stand against the culture in support of God’s Truth.It is not easy to make a straight way for the Lord in a culture so enamored and seduced by lies

Mere_me, RGB and the like…
Your heads are buried so far in the sand. It’s closed-minded, judgmental attitudes like those you have displayed here that turn people off from Christianity in the first place.
The comment about “Q” standing for “questioning” being creepy is one that best illustrates how a complete refusal to understand where other people come from leads to bigoted thoughts and ideas. A person who doesn’t know if they’re gay or not will obviously seek out people who have been in their position before to talk to about it. Period. There’s no “recruitment” going on because you CAN’T TURN PEOPLE GAY! But you refuse to try and understand that simple fact, despite the overwhelming body of scientific evidence in support of it.
Don’t come back at me with “you’re being judgmental of me right after you told me not to be judgmental”, either. You have a right to say what you want and express your views, no matter how bigoted or narrow-minded. But I have a right to share my views and opinions as well. I may not agree with your opinions, but I feel very strongly that you should always have a right to express them.
J

“Whether you hate gays, or you advocate acceptance of gays…”
Or are so myopically closed-minded that you think those are the only two possible options…

“What if there was a group of Neo-Nazis who wanted to form a recognized group in the University? Would the “tolerance” key word would be used then?”
No…they’d call them Campus Republicans.

Call me dense but this group appears to be clear in NOT Advocating for positions the church is against.
So they advocate for gays in general and how they are treated in society and on campus.
So they run afoul of the Catholic Church’s positions on this matter in what way?
I am not asking to be snide, but please be clear — spare us the Neo- Nazis references or Sodomites slander. Instead a cross reference to the The Catechism of Catholic Church would be welcome.

Once again I see so many put the effort on what they do, rather than focus on what is truly Roman Catholic theology… grace. Put the focus on what God does.
He loved us first. The rest is response. Response time when in relationship with God is not a productivity improvement in a business process but something beyond the temporal as we understand it.
All things are possible with God.

If all things are possible with God, then Christians should hold to the reality that homosexuality is wrong and that people that choose this behavior can repent and then choose a life that is in keeping with the faith delivered ONLY once to the saints.
Repentance is a hate crime only to the wicked.

Mere_Me,
If ALL things are possible with God, then stop trying to shove Him (or Her) into a little box that fits within your narrow-minded view of the world. If ALL things are possible, then by that very definition it is possible that God created gay people just as they are and loves them just as they are, too!
Again, you espouse the belief that people can choose to be gay. Again I will tell you that the overwhelming body of evidence is against your theory on that.
“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
J

Ah yes the joy of calling people narrow minded! so refreshing. Oh and the non-judge me crowd judging every one else! So wonderfully joyful! Well, we could almost call it a “gay” thing, no? Of course we all know not be norrow minded, after all there is more than two genders; female, male and, and, and? Well, whatever, just don’t be norrow minded. Yes, the joys of sex contra-natura and of infertile unions! So enlightening, male and female and gay He made them. No doubt, ah, and dont’ you judge me for this either or else I might get you in to a catfight.

To all…
Lest we forget: it is not a sin to be a homosexual. They are to be loved and accepted as members of the body of Christ, just like all of us — for we are all imperfect, struggling, broken, and prone to sin.
This is not meant to condone sinful behavior; the church teaches that any and all sexual activity outside of marriage is sinful, no matter who is doing it, or how. But please let’s try to keep things in perspective, and welcome our gay brothers and sisters with charity, compassion, and prayers.
After all, many of them are searching for the same thing as the rest of us: salvation.
Blessings,
Dcn. G.

As I was driving to work and listening to a very tragic story about the Ugandan bill that will make homosexuality a crime, a punishable offense, I thought of this post and thread.
Deacon Greg thank you for your insightful comment that reminds us that charity is at the heart of all.

Fran,
In the interest of clarity, I want to poin out that the Ugandan bill would not outlaw homosexuality, but rather homosexual acts. I believe the proposed penalties are far too harsh, but they havent considered banning homosexuality.
(I really dont buy the “homosexual/heterosexual as ontological categories” social construct everyone around me seems to, but oh well, I’m willing to use thos eterms in odrder to be plainly understood.)

Do you homosexual buffoons really think that you can finesse the Catholic Church through politics into stating that homosexuality is good and wholesome, and that somehow this will change God’s mind about this filthy sin?
“Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor HOMOSEXUALS, nor HOMOSEXUAL prostitutes, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
The only thing I can figure is that God Himself has hardened your hearts in preparation for judgment, just like he did the Pharaoh (Exodus 4:21, 7:4-5). Initially the Pharaoh hardened his own heart, and eventually God confirmed it. When God wipes His hands of you, then you really don’t have any more hope. Think about it.

Homosexuallity is a sin. in Genesis says God made male and female
and God made the 10 Commandments we must follow. God Gave directions to Moses that we need to follow. And when Jesus came He taught and gave direction for we as the people to learn and believe.

Recognizing the group officially does not necesarily mean that the school sanctions a life style that it finds contrary. It does permit them recognition as a group of people, fellow human beings, who feel vulnerable and wish to provide mutual support for each other as well as honour the teachings of the Church.

This is a response to sweet Mary WAterton and the anonymous posters who love to point fingers. Ms. Waterton, do you have your hair cut and styled? Do you wear a veil to Mass? Do you adhere to the many rules/holy days of Leviticus? Clearly you don’t “keep silent” in Church. So, until you actually sit down with a gay human being and have a conversation, please keep tyou ignorant rants to yourself.

@Max Alberts – I would take what you said and amend it as this: Even if someone has not ever sat down with a gay human being (unlikely – even if they did not know they were talking to someone gay), some civility, respect and dignity of life should be present.
One does not transform with venom, but rather one transforms with love. At least that is pretty much how Jesus and St. Paul have framed it.

Hello. And Bye.