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Land for Land: The New Middle East Math

posted by bfeiler | 7:00am Tuesday August 7, 2007

Few people I know believe any more in the old “land for peace” formula for Middle East peace. There’s simply no more trust among Israelis that the Palestinians could deliver that peace even if it were agreed to, or that the step would be little more than a waiting game for more land. On the Palestinian side, the Israelis have gobbled up too much of the West Bank with mostly permanent settlements at this point and some of that land simply cannot practically be given back. How to breatk the impassed?
Land for land. A new proposal is gaining momentum that the Israelis give back an equivalent percentage of land within in Israel to compensate for the land within the 1967 occupied territories that it has claimed. Interesting. Perhaps the most significant development is that this proposal is being shepherded by Simon Peres, proof that what I blogged about before I came over to Beliefnet — namely that I suspected he wanted to make the largely ceremonial postion of president more substantive — is proving correct.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is examining a new framework for peace in which Israel will propose transferring to the Palestinian state areas equivalent to 100 percent of the territories conquered in 1967.
Israel will suggest to the Palestinians to conduct negotiations for adequate territorial compensation from Israel’s sovereign territory, in exchange for settlement blocs amounting to about 5 percent of the West Bank’s area.
Israel is also examining various options of exchanging settlement blocs with Arab community blocs within Israel, in agreement with the residents. An agreement on this issue would enable Yisrael Beiteinu, headed by Avigdor Lieberman, to remain in the coalition.
The new framework was presented to Olmert by President Shimon Peres, a few days after he entered the President’s Residence. It includes a timetable for negotiations for the final status agreement and implementing it, similar to the framework of the Peres-Abu Ala agreement reached at the end of 2001.
Olmert has not yet decided on his position regarding all the plan’s clauses, but apparently has not dismissed its main ideas.
Olmert and Mahmoud Abbas agreed Monday that cooperation between Israel and the Palestinian Authority would be expanded, in an effort to expedite progress in their talks for the establishment of the Palestinian state.



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Ed

posted August 7, 2007 at 12:38 pm


“There’s simply no more trust among Israelis that the Palestinians could deliver that peace even if it were agreed to, or that the step would be little more than a waiting game for more land.”
Giving away more of Israel does not address this issue, it only makes it worse.
As for the “occupied territories”, how come everything automatically has to belong to Arabs?



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Saadaya

posted August 7, 2007 at 5:52 pm


Has there been any coverage of a study that I’ve read online about shared ancestry for Jews and Palestinians? I thought the study was interesting, it makes them cousins. And if they ARE cousins, then it’s possible that, being descended from Abraham, both should inherit the land according to this (absurd) belief that they have subjected themselves to. This article cites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian
In recent years, many genetic surveys have suggested that, at least paternally, most of the various Jewish ethnic divisions and the Palestinians — and in some cases other Levantines — are genetically closer to each other than the Palestinians to the original Arabs of Arabia or [European] Jews to non-Jewish Europeans. Nebel et al. (2001) report that their “recent study of high-resolution microsatellite haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool (Nebel et al. 2000).”
In addition to Nebel et al, it cites sources as: Almut Nebel, The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East, Ann Hum Genet. 2006 Mar;70(2):195-206
and
Almut Nebel, The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East, Ann Hum Genet. 2006 Mar;70(2):195-206



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Charles

posted August 14, 2007 at 3:53 pm


Something has to be done, for right now the mideast situation reminds me of a Goya picture. I forget the name, but the image is unforgettable. Two giants, in a desolate landscape, buried up to their waists, are clubbing each other savagely, to no seeable purpose or end. Something must change.



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