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Pay no attention to that gigantic elephant in the corner -- that other issue that some Catholics have some concerns over, the one that the bishops and the pope keep mentioning every chance they get. Hmm, I wonder if the "Catholic outreach" people in these campaigns will take the time to explain to Catholics about their candidate's position on that one. Or, maybe they think that if they just ignore it it'll just go away and nobody will notice.
Ed,
We do not ignore it, in fact we open discuss it. See the recent posting on CatholicDemocrats.org. The real question is when the folks who oppose criminalization will stop being obstructionist and work with us on real solutions to lowering the number of abortions in this country. The Democrats have a laudable legislative record on this issue. Other than saying "no", can conservatives say as much?
See:
http://www.catholicdemocrats.org/news/2008/03/old_abortion_language_doesnt_w.php
Sincerely,
Bill Roth
Communications Director
Catholic Democrats
roth@catholicdemocrats.org
http://www.catholicdemocrats.org
Catholics, just like everybody else in America are losing their sons and daughter in Iraq. Just like everybody else, they are losing jobs to China, homes to bad morgages and have poor or no health insurance.
when push comes to shove, they will vote for whomever they feel will serve their needs best.
Let's see...a couple thousand soldiers over 6 years verses 1.5 million innocent babies every year for the last 35 years, most of them minorities...
Hmmm..I dunno. That's a real hard decision there.
Abortion can never be the only issue in political campaigns ... sure vote republican ... and get abortion outlawed (which i think would be great) ... meanwhile the world goes to heck in a handbasket as wars are waged and the poor are left to die on the street
Ann writes:
"Let's see...a couple thousand soldiers over 6 years verses 1.5 million innocent babies every year for the last 35 years, most of them minorities...
Hmmm..I dunno. That's a real hard decision there."
Why is this an either or? What's interesting about many Catholics, including high profile ones like Doug Kmiec and The Pope, is that they are opposed both to abortion and war, and for the same reason.
I'm definitely not a supporter of abortion ... but there are so many other things that Obama gets right ... that it would seem crazy to me to vote for a republican just over one issue.
Catholics should listen to their Church's teaching, and not just to DNC or RNC talking points.
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith: "a well-formed Christian conscience does not permit one to vote for a political program or an individual law which contradicts the fundamental contents of faith and morals."
US Bishops: "There may be times when a Catholic who rejects a candidate's unacceptable position may decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons. Voting in this way would be permissible only for truly grave moral reasons, not to advance narrow interests or partisan preferences or to ignore a fundamental moral evil."
"other morally grave reasons" ... i think poverty, war, and healthcare are pretty morally grave to me. However, i believe we should follow our consciences. When we start letting a church "permit" us to something then we have lost our balance i feel.
"I want an estate tax cut" is not a morally grave reason.
But beyond that, it is mostly a matter of personal discernment. It is a debatable question as to if a McCain presidency or an Obama presidency will save more unborn lives. And between McCain and Obama, only one of them is in a traditional marriage.
But after those two issues, we still have health care, worker rights, war and economic justice.
www.catholicsforobama.blogspot.com
Both Clinton and Obama can reach out to Catholics by co-sponsoring Senator Bob Casey's bill, the Pregnant Women's Support Act, S. 2410.
This bill tries to reduce the number of abortions by eliminating the social, medica, and economic pressures that push pregnant women toward abortion. Since it imposes no legal restrictions, no intellectually honest "pro-choice" -person would have any legimate objection.
The candidate or candidates who sponsor this bill which has more than forty Democratic sponsors in the House will demonstrate the ability to truly change and move beyond the diviseness of the past. Both say they want to make abortions "rare". Now is their chance to put up or shut up.
www.democratsforlife/massachusetts.com
"It is a debatable question as to if a McCain presidency or an Obama presidency will save more unborn lives."
Sure, every question is debatable. You could be correct in the more general sense that women likely don't chose to abort based on who occupies the Oval Office. Then again, of the two, McCain is the more likely to approve on restrictions on abortion by the very nature of his being pro-life, and Obama is the more likely to veto any legislation on the very nature of his being pro-choice.
"And between McCain and Obama, only one of them is in a traditional marriage."
That's neither a fair nor rational judgment, as neither Obama's faith nor McCain's explicitly believe in the indissolubility of marriage, and both permit divorce. That's very much like someone who follows kosher restrictions evaluating the piety of a hog farmer.
"But after those two issues, we still have health care, worker rights, war and economic justice."
Not really. Unless I'm mistaken, much of that sounds a lot like Liberation theology, which has more or less fallen into official disfavor in the Church during the last twenty years.
I suspect the majority of us Catholics are going to break for McCain, at least us church-going types who "cling to [religion]." I'd rather support the jingoist than another enabler of the silent holocaust.
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