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Bush's Stand on Gay Adoption? Take a Wild Guess

Thursday July 17, 2008

Categories: John McCain
The question of gay adoption has been a back-burner for the Christian Right. Until now, of course. Brody has Family Research Council president Tony Perkins pillorying McCain for his campaign's recent dialing back of his opposition to gay adoption, which...
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nillawafer
July 17, 2008 7:58 PM

my daughter has many sweet friends who have two moms or two dads. it hurts her that many people in her church says these folks are evil or going to hell. i'm not going to make her stop hanging out with her friends who have gay parents and i'm not going to make them feel uncomfortable or tainted because of who their parents are or who they are. these are good kids and i believe their parents must be giving them loving homes.

robyn
July 18, 2008 11:17 AM

in a generally christian country, the question is, who would jesus hate?

dannyuk2
July 18, 2008 12:07 PM

Ask 100 christians that, and you'll get 100 varying answers ill bet. But i think gays and feminists would rank up there in the popularity vote.

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July 19, 2008 5:08 PM

my daughter has many sweet friends who have two moms or two dads. it hurts her that many people in her church says these folks are evil or going to hell. i'm not going to make her stop hanging out with her friends who have gay parents and i'm not going to make them feel uncomfortable or tainted because of who their parents are or who they are. these are good kids and i believe their parents must be giving them loving homes.

Thank you so much for saying that. It's a kind response that comes from a very rational place - good fruit comes from good trees.

Bonnie
July 21, 2008 12:56 AM

When those kids try to have an intimate relationship as an adult, they may very well be missing something. A girl reaching adulthood with 2 moms will be 18 years behind in her knowledge and experience of living with a man. A boy with 2 dads, lacking experience living with a woman. This stuff matters. Going through the teen years without an adult in the house who really KNOWS (a boy and 2 moms, or a girl and 2 dads) would be lonely and challenging. Like living with an opposite sex single parent, all of this is doable, but kids fare better when life is simple.


New Age Cowboy
July 21, 2008 4:39 AM

"A good example of why the Christian Right had such faith in Bush."
Can the Christian Right really discern a person's character or are they a bunch of push-overs for bad leadership?

Nurse Snow
July 21, 2008 3:25 PM

I am much more concerned about WHAT people believe in than their
God-o-meter foot print.

When there are no children that have been deserted, abused, abandoned, neglected or unwanted, only then should this debate take place. Focus on the needs of a lonely child, not what you perceive to happen in their adoptive parent's bedroom.

recovering ex-Pentecostal
July 23, 2008 3:09 PM

Bonnie,

"When those kids try to have an intimate relationship as an adult, they may very well be missing something. A girl reaching adulthood with 2 moms will be 18 years behind in her knowledge and experience of living with a man. A boy with 2 dads, lacking experience living with a woman. This stuff matters. Going through the teen years without an adult in the house who really KNOWS (a boy and 2 moms, or a girl and 2 dads) would be lonely and challenging. Like living with an opposite sex single parent, all of this is doable, but kids fare better when life is simple."

There's a huge assumption in your post, Bonnie, and it's that "those kids" being raised are automaticaly going to be heterosexual. I am a gay man, and I was raised in a 1 father/1 mother household. It seems you believe that gay people don't even know any heterosexual people, don't have heterosexual people in their lives. I know plenty of same-sex couples raising children and all of them have lots of friends of the opposite sex who are excellent role models for their children.

Also, your post, like Mr. Bush, doesn't even address single parent households where there is likewise no one of the opposite sex living with the parent. It seems you simply don't want gay people rasing kids, period. Too bad. We already do, and do a pretty decent job of it, too.

P.S. Life isn't "simple".

recovering ex-Pentecostal
July 23, 2008 3:14 PM

Dan,

What the heck relevance is Bush's stand on the matter? He isn't running for president is he?

If you think he's relevant, maybe you could posit some questions as to what Bush thought about his Vice-President's lesbian daughter who just also happens to be a mother - a single mother, due to her father's and Mr. Bush's policies.

As if Bush matters.

Sted Ruckus
July 29, 2008 4:05 PM

The argument that children are better off in a household with a married different sex couple is sort of a moot point. Simply put, children up for adoption are without any parents, or any home whatsoever, and live in group homes or foster homes.

A child placed in a home full of love and commitment towards the child is really all that matters.

To the poster who said something about children being raised by opposite sex parents are missing out on learning about the opposite sex is horribly misinformed. She then also admits that there are single parent homes where the child and parent are of the opposite sex, but then goes on to say, its better when its simpler. Yes, things are better when they are simpler, but unfortunately, the situation is not simple.

I was raised by a single mother, and somehow managed to learn what it is to be a man. On the other side of things, I can tell you from first hand experience of working in the foster care system, these kids are better off in any sort of stable home. Foster care and group home kids bounce around constantly, with no sense of stability, and they have a high rate of dropping out of school, and of winding up in jail. As a society, we should want to home these children first and foremost, and secondly, to do everythign we can to turn out a productive member of society.
Gay adoption may not be some peoples idea of a good home, but let me tell you, it beats foster care and group homes, and the child is undoubtedly better off.

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