With Palin, the Catholic Wars Heat Up

I sincerely hope that Fidelis is not a 501(c)3 organization. If they happen to be, they just put their exemption in jeopardy.

Heres my two cents worth at 55 Ive worked on many a Democratic campaign, starting by working the Mcgovern campaign on Cape Cod in 72..thru the Kerry campaign in 2oo4. Ive worked for and seen a lot of Democrats over the years but this bunch with the leaders of congress and the senate, and this continual name calling and we know it all and are MUCH smarter than any one attitude have broken this donkeys back...I have drawn the line with the push to elect such an empty suit as Obama. Not just an empty suit but one covered in more dirt thru Chicago politics, associations with people even an mobster would have the common sense to avoid . Thank you for forcing me to see you for who you really are a party intent on bringing down the America I love and have been proud of all my adult life, Ill be voting for McCain and working hard to help elect a genuine Hero not a zero this time.............

Here's the thing. Most Catholics are not mindless followers who believe that one or two issues concerning reproductive rights and mature adult relationships are the most important issues in this year's elections. Catholics have an ingrained understanding of peace and justice albeit at times veiled by other issues. They also have the ability to think critically about issues. How can someone say they are Pro life and deny working mothers an equitable salary to support and sustain the lives of her family? How can someone say they are pro marriage and continue to allow military families to suffer the absence of spouses and children to a war that has been called immoral by the last two popes?
Not all Catholics believe that live issues begin and end with abortion. Many Catholics understand that life issues included caring for all life within and outside the womb.
On election day I believe more Catholics will reflect on that way of being pro life.

I AM CATHOLIC, AND A DEMOCRAT, AND ANTI ABORTION, BUT... THE FEEL GOOD ANTI ABORTION, COMMUNION DENYING CLERGY ARE HYPOCRITICAL. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PUTS BIRTH CONTROL PILLS IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS ABORTION YET EVERY SUNDAY I SEE MOST OF THE YOUNG MARRIED WOMEN GO TO RECEIVE THE HOST. ALOT OF THESE SAME WOMEN ARE UPSET ABOUT ABORTION. MAYBE THEY ARE ALL USING THE APPROVED CHURCH METHODS BUT SOMEHOW I DOUBT IT. WHEN I QUESTION RELATIVES AND FRIENDS ABOUT THE PILL THEY SAY THAT IT IS NOT A SIN AND THEY WILL TAKE THEIR CHANCES WITH THE CHURCH. ANOTHER FINE EXAMPLE OF MENU CATHOLIC BEHAVIOR.

You can vote for your "gun totin' momma" with her five kids, digging for oil while her husband is going farther and father looking for fish that are going deeper and deeper trying to get away from the global warming she promotes.

I will vote for the man who wants equal pay, full medical benefits and protection from abusers for all American women.

Who's the better "Catholic"? that question is not on the ballot. Who will serve the Nation better? Biden. If something should happen to the president of this US of A, I would want Biden over Palin every day.

Politico reported Senator McCain’s new pick for VP grew up Pentecostal, so did I, and this is the MOST extreme fundamentalist denomination there is…everyone beware! They believe in the apocalypse in the extreme and at the core of the Pentecostal denomination are fear based beliefs. Yes, they are saying she is Catholic now, but I promise everyone, this type of indoctrination based in fear shapes those individuals. The rightousnous and judgment of others that come from that upbringing can be clinical. If she has not healed from this indoctrination (brain washing) and McCain wins, and should something happen to him! God help us all. This is the most dangerous thing I have witnessed in politics in my lifetime! I don’t think the senator has done his homework on this one! Someone needs to do their homework on this one!

Stop the Religious nonsense. We had the Republican Controlled Congress for 12 years, 6 of those years, with a Republican President, what did they do to stop Abortions? NOTHING! What makes anybody think there will be a change with McCain and Palin? I too am for LIFE, but, ALL LIFE. Since we elected a Republican President all we have known is WAR! In God's Eyes, do you think God only cares for the unborn babies of America, but doesn't care for the hundreds of thousands men, women and children killed in Iraq through a War created by your Republican President? Government cannot control Abortions, people's hearts must be changed, which comes from God and Him only. Instead of blaming the Government for the corruption in America, trying Reading God's Word to find the Truth. (Malachi-3-7-18) Religious Leaders rob God's Tithes and Offering while they lie to you, with their cheap grace religion, do nothing, just believe in the Name of Jesus, the Lie that removed all Fear of the Living God. The very devils believe in His Name and are as much christian as the average church member of today. (James-2-19-20) At least devils know to tremble before Holy God.
Want to see a Change in America? Get the devil and his false religious leaders Out of the Church! (11Thess-2-3-12)That the Truth of God's Word be heard Again in America! (Malachi-3-10-12)

Congress passes the laws on such things as abortion and other domestic issues. The Supreme Court judges whether the new laws are constitutional or not. The President has nothing to do with it. The subject of abortion is a red herring, not a real issue for presidential candidates.

Does it matter if she was covering for her daughter, who was the one who really gave birth to Trig? Is it still a sin to lie? And WHEN do these wingnuts realize that abortion is NOT the president's issue, that foreign and domestic economic policies ARE, and Ms Palin is simply not ready to manage either? This country is full of uneducated boobs.

There is no issue more important than life. For anyone to dismiss any life as not worthy because of convenience is committing sin. There is no argument that makes it right to kill for convenience.

I am a Catholic who is pro-choice support abstinence, ,sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancy ,disease and HIV. I am against war especially the one back up by lies and death penalty .I would never vote for somebody like Sarah Palin she is an hypocrite, fake like all the evangelical christian. Watch those kkk who will lynch people because of skin color or race I would like them to tell me what Christ they worship because My Jesus Christ is love and compassion merciful.This is why I said Merciful Jesus I trust in You

PS I am sorry for Bristol Palin her mother did not do the job to educate her about sex. Teenage pregnancy is a disaster for society. Thanks God it is pregnancy it could easily be Hiv.

I am a pro-choice Catholic. It amazes me that those who are "for life", lead the charge to ban teaching of simple birth control to our young, and to ban programs promoting condoms and family planning education in third world areas ravaged by AIDS. Why are they afraid of teaching simple biological truths to prevent unwanted pregnancies and disease?

This mindset has caused more abortions of innocents and death from AIDS than "pro choicers" ever have.

Yet, pro-lifers smuggly label us "murderers". It is time our society decided whether abortion is a felony or a moral choice. If a felony, pro-lifers should be consistent and demand life imprisonment or the death penalty for frightened young pregnant females and their doctors and nurses...for they have committed pre-meditated first degree murder. If they lack the courage for such logic, they should stop telling me to vote for political parties advocating war around the globe.

All of you pro-choice people forget a major difference between abortion and the other causes you mentioned (war, death penalty.)

Abortion occurs on a helpless victim. The fetus has no choice in the matter, and no power to resist. The mother has all of the power. Is it fair or right of her to use it to terminate her child? Why couldn't she be more responsible in the first place, and not have sex if she didn't want to be pregnant. Or, why doesn't she carry to term and offer the child up for adoption? Are any of you aware of the long-term psychological effects of abortions on women?

In a war, both sides make decisions that escalate a conflict. Further, in this country, you are free not to join the military, thus making your own life safer. War is a necessary thing - the loss of life is usually worth the price of greater freedom and security the world over. Go ask a veteran of WW2 is the sacrifice was worth it. In Iraq, for example - Saddam Hussein could have complied with the UN resolutions. He could have come clean about his lack of WMDs. He could have allowed us or the UN to chase al-Qaeda out. He chose to resist, instead, and we had this war.

And the death penalty - there is no comparison to abortion. The death penalty is the ultimate punishment for taking a life. It is designed to be a deterrent to future would-be offenders. Do you think it's easy for an executive to order the death of someone? Do you think they don't understand the responsibility? And, it's perfectly consistent with a pro-life view. People who are executed could have prevented the entire ordeal in the first place, by not committing murder. A baby can't prevent being aborted by not being conceived - only a mother can do that.

Lastly - if you want to fight for abortion so hard, go for it. I'll be more concerned with Social Security, or taxes, or the military, or the economy. Besides, most Christian, right-wing people don't have abortions. Usually, only liberal left-wingers do. And I don't want them breeding and producing more liberals, so have all the abortions you want. And then, in about 20 years, when we greatly outnumber you, we will vote in the right people and remove all of this nonsense from being.

"Abortion occurs on a helpless victim. The fetus has no choice in the matter, and no power to resist. The mother has all of the power. Is it fair or right of her to use it to terminate her child?
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RAPE also occurs on a helpless victim - for the most part. And if a pregnancy should result, both helpless victims, the unwilling helpless mother and the child suffer and the PROLIFERS insist that this is not grounds for abortion.

So forget about the helpless fetus, who by the way is as helpless as a tapeworm living in your gut. The fetus is a parasite, living off the mother and actually GROWS an entire new ORGAN, the PLACENTA to feed itself.

In a televised debate, I recall Dan Quale, GHW Bush's Vice Presidential pick, asserting he was pro-life. When asked how he would counsel his young teenage daughter if she became pregnant out of wedlock, he replied he would be supportive of whatever she decided. I suspect 8o% of avowed pro-lifers would take this hypocritical stance. Talk is cheap.

This same voting bloc generally opposes head start programs, increased funding for public education, national health care, and most any other program to assist families and mothers in need. They call it "starving the beast of big government", and insist on borrowing from foreign nations to keep their taxes low. They do support vouchers for private schools for their own kids however, which would further weaken public schools.

Challenge a pro-lifer to say how much he personally donated last year to help unwed single mothers, and I can almost guarantee he will stammer some meaningless platitude and walk away.

I think that Palin's poor judgment in accepting the nomination with an unwed pregnant daughter might be her undoing. She should step down "for the good of her family" in order to remove her daughter's extracurricular activities from the spotlight.
If McCain wanted a Pro-Life, Pro-Drilling, Anti-Earmark fiscal conservative, he should have picked a more conventional choice like former Congresswoman Melissa A. Hart of Pennsylvania. Plus, Melissa Hart is practicing Catholic - a plus in my book!
There's plenty of room under the bus with Obama's granny and Rev. Wright. It's a big bus.
Take one for the home team, Sarah... step down for the sake of the party!