Sarah Palin and Rick Warren are chatting by phone, though it's unclear who initiatived. Warren seems less happy than ever with Obama, while still claiming to be above partisan politics.
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Sarah Palin and Rick Warren Chat by Phone
Thursday September 11, 2008
Categories: John McCain
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As an evangelical I have not been a Rick Warren fan. However, the forum he hosted was the best education for Christian voters there has been. He is not involved in politics, he is involved in helping folks understand the choice we are faced with. So, back of Pastor Warren and focus your frustration where it belongs...MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN....
Today, Robert Fisk revisits the horrors of the first "great" war:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/
Quoting Jean Giono's Le Grand Troupeau (The Grand Herd):
"The rats, with red eyes, march delicately along the trench," Giono writes of the creatures with whom he shared the war. "All life had disappeared down there except for that of the rats and the lice ... The rats were coming to sniff the bodies ... They chose the young men without beards on the cheeks ... rolled up into a ball and began to eat the flesh between the nose and the mouth up to the edge of the lips ... from time to time they would wash their whiskers to stay clean. Then the eyes, they took them out with their claws, licked the eyelids, and would then bite into the eye as if it was a small egg ..."
Fisk concludes that our leaders rarely confront the realities of sending our children off to war, an echo of earlier antiwar efforts. Here's Mark Twain in 1905:
http://www.missionmeeting.org/flummery/WarPrayer.asp
And Harry Emerson Fosdick, from 1933:
http://www.missionmeeting.org/flummery/UnknownSoldier.asp
And still we march each new generation of doomed youth to their Gallipoli and Verdun and Somme, while here in the bosom of homeland's security we extoll the virtues of aged warriors and pageant-queen consorts who promise only more of the same. God help us all...
http://www.missionmeeting.org/spandau/
I wondered why Rick Warren would become involved in politics to the point of conducting interviews at his church but I am a little clearer on that now. If he is sincerely partisan as he says he is why did he not meet with both candidates and introduce them to the congregation, place one in the secluded room then start the interview. Starting the interview when the other candidate was not even in the building and acting as though he didn't know is obsurd. McCain heard the questions from his car and the excuse that secret service was there to prevent him hearing the questions is ridiculous. The secret service are there to provide protection not babysit. Just because the lame excuse came from the pastor doesn't make it true. Put your trust in God and God alone!
There is only one reason for Warren publicizing his conversation with Palin. I use to respect Warren, but not after the Saddleback Forum when he announced McCain was in a cone of silence.
I can not justify Rick Warren's subsequent responses to the unsequestered candidate problem during the Saddleback Forum.
As a Christian and true believer I am reminded again and again Who we can trust.
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