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Dole's "Godless" Ad and McCain's Reluctance to Attack on Faith

Thursday October 30, 2008

Categories: John McCain
The "Godless" ad that U.S. Senator Elizabeth Dole is running against her Democratic challenger in North Carolina is a stark reminder that faith-based attacks have been kept to a relative minimum in the presidential race. It's also a reminder,...
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Sherry
October 30, 2008 4:36 PM

there's a pattern here: faith-based attacks tend to come from Republicans who are religious and who've incorporated their faith into their political personas, e.g. Dole and Palin.

A very interesting observation. It makes a lot of sense to me.

I remember thinking, after the choice of Gov. Palin for VP, that we (ostensibly a Christian nation?) pushed them to announce their Christianity, as though it were a prerequisite to qualify to run for President. Poor John McCain, he never wanted to talk about it, for him it was personal. He is an Episcopalian attending a Baptist church with his wife, give the man a break. Remember, the Constitution says that to qualify to run for President, one must be at least 35 years of age and be born in the US.

I didn't mean to digress and I guess that 2012 will be even worse than 2008.

Mark G
October 30, 2008 5:31 PM

What warrant is there to say that Dole has "incorporated [her] faith into [her] political persona"? She's a Methodist for goodness sake. If there really is a God Gap, Dole is on the establishment side, not the Huckabee side. She had to be dragged into declaring herself "pro-life" when she ran for president (and even then with an asterisk for rape and incest) -- unlike true religious righters who wave the issue as a flag.

I hasten to add, I'm not from North Carolina -- apart from the latest ad, has she really crossed over the God gap and become a public bible thumper?

Robert Morwell
October 30, 2008 6:05 PM

I never thought that Elizabeth Dole was be so utterly classless and demagogic. This is beyond shameful.

I happen to be an Obama backer who still hopes that the Democrats do not get a veto-proof majority, because I prefer a divided government that has to find bipartisan solutions and doesn't give one part carte blanche.

I am also a Christian and a pastor (I'm even a United Methodist, as is Mrs. Dole) but I sincerely hope she goes down in flames for this shameful tactic. It is beyond disgusting.

Pete in NC
October 30, 2008 7:06 PM

I'm stupefied that Senator Dole would sink to this level. After watching this ad, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Liddy's next campaign tactic is to personally attend a Hagan rally and fling her own feces.

Brian
October 30, 2008 8:18 PM

You do what you can to stay alive. In North Carolina the shoe has always been on the other foot and at a safe distance.
Also Elizabeth Dole's storybook career from Red Cross head to Reagan cabinet official has always been appointments-much like Robert Kennedy- which is why Lyndon Johnson always hated him, because Kennedy could get the cushy jobs, while he had to struggle in elections against really good opponents, but I digress-so Dole, is up for her first reelection, and she's just using what works and what has worked for other politicians. When you think of that way, instead of sinking to new lows, it becomes very reasonable. Especially when its a monster Democratic year.

Charles Cosimano
October 30, 2008 9:17 PM

If they try a stupid ad campaign like this in a Presidential race it will assure the other candidate gets elected.

Edward Virtually
October 30, 2008 10:58 PM

As an agnostic, I treat the views of atheists as I do any other faith. It might be true there is no God, it might be true there is. I think beyond the falsehood of claiming Ms Hagen is an atheist when she is obviously not one, the more distasteful aspect of Dole's ad is the implication that not believing in (her) God and/or believing in the separation of church and state somehow make one a bad person. This country was founded on the freedom of religion -- in my opinion that includes the religion (faith-based belief) of atheism -- and the separation of church and state. The latter expressly because the government endorsing a specific religion is contrary to that freedom. Dole's ad indicates her lack of respect for the freedom of others and lack of suitability to hold a position of power over them.

RDSOregon
October 31, 2008 12:34 PM


The GOP has Prostituted Religion. Before you disagree, take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8gJ_rPHXtk

I call it McChapter 7 - Morally Bankrupt

Safford
October 31, 2008 12:46 PM

Dole learned dirty campaign tactics from a master--her husband. This does not surprise me one bit.

Charles Laster
October 31, 2008 4:24 PM

In this case, religion seems to the a refuge for the scoundrel!

'There shall be no religious test for the holding of public office'--U.S.Constitution.

Mark G
November 1, 2008 10:37 AM

Article VI says only that the state cannot bar a candidate from running based on her religious views; it does not say that voters cannot take a candidate's religious views into account, or that voters cannot be urged to do so.

This is a good thing. I will be very hesitant to vote for a candidate who believes in voodoo magic or snake handling as a religious practice, and would not object to an ad alerting me to such beliefs. Where do we disagree?

Mark G
November 1, 2008 7:04 PM

I hasten to add, Dole's ad turns me off too.

ting
November 1, 2008 10:43 PM

Nothing unamerican about being an atheist. We are free to believe or not believe in this country and all should be treated equally. The biggest and least discussed part of this story is that open bigotry against atheists shouldn't be tolerated. It is unamerican and unchristian.

ting
November 1, 2008 10:53 PM

Also, beware of unamerican censorship. My earlier comments (nothing rude or vulgar) were deleted. Was this because I am not christian???

john
November 2, 2008 12:16 AM

??

Ron
November 3, 2008 7:26 PM

"[T]he feminist movement today is throwing off authority in rebellion against God's pattern for the family." ["Bible Positions on Political Issues," John Hagee]

==========

Just want to also point out McCain's endorser besides calling
the Catholic Church the Mother Whore; also doesn't hold women
in high regard.

Why does McCain fund this guy's foundation?

Ron

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