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Rich Nathan: Evangelical Engagement – Promise and Pitfalls

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Note: The following is a condensed summary of the talk Pastor Rich Nathan delivered at the “Voting Our Values” rally last Thursday in Columbus, Ohio. A link to the full text appears at the end, or you can download audio of the entire speech (mp3).

As I travel around the country and interact with a wide variety of evangelical leaders, I have discovered a changing landscape. I believe we are going to see an entirely new trajectory for evangelical political involvement over the next decade. Let me tick off five developments among evangelical leaders and lay people that I am particularly grateful for.

First of all, I am grateful that there is a broadening of the list of people who are now considered spokespersons for the evangelical movement. There are lots of us evangelicals who have found ourselves increasingly uncomfortable with the media’s selection of a few people of decidedly conservative politics who are regularly called our spokespeople. Whenever I hear this handful of people talk, I think, “this person doesn’t speak for me.”

Second, I’m grateful that there is a broadening of the evangelical agenda beyond the two hot-button issues of abortion and gay marriage. Evangelicals are saying, “How did we ever allow ourselves to become convinced that the entirety of the biblical agenda for our political involvement can be reduced to just two things – abortion and gay marriage?”

It is also certainly the case that we, as a society, must provide necessary support for women and children, not only during the 9 months of pregnancy, but also after. But I have to be honest with you, and tell you that I was quite disappointed with the statement on abortion that is in the “Voting God’s Politics” brochure. While the statement regarding capital punishment is absolute and unequivocal, stating “our nation’s use of the death penalty should end,” the statement on abortion waffles and calls for “common ground policies that dramatically reduce the abortion rate.” We lawyers would say that the abortion statement contains “weasel words.” I believe the statement on abortion needs to be more absolute.

Third, I’m grateful that evangelicals are moving away from our prior unreserved, unquestioning support for American military action around the world. Many evangelicals are now saying, “How did it come to be that we who claim to follow the Prince of Peace are stauncher advocates of war than any other demographic group in America?” And even those of us who do not come from a pacifist tradition, but rather a just-war tradition, have begun to ask, “How can some of our most recent wars be considered just?”

You know, St. Augustine, the father of the just war tradition, said, “We Christians may, on occasion, legitimately go to war. But we always do so with great reluctance and with tears.”

Many of us evangelicals have asked ourselves: Shouldn’t we Christians be the most difficult to convince, of any group of people, regarding the legitimacy of war? Shouldn’t we have the strongest presumption against war and require the government to have the highest burden of proof before we reluctantly, and with tears, go along with war?

Fourth, I am grateful that I am witnessing a shift among evangelicals towards the view that with God’s help, it is possible to change this world. The traditional evangelical view of the world is that the world is hopelessly fallen. Or to use the great 19th century evangelist, D.L. Moody’s line, “The world has hit an iceberg and the ship is going down. The only thing we can do is pull as many people as possible into the life boats.” So, for a century, many evangelicals have believed that it is an absolute waste of time to try to improve this fallen world, since to do so would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. But without being naïve regarding the fallenness of this world, or the difficulty of change, there are many evangelicals who are saying, “World change is possible with God’s help.”

And fifth, I am grateful that many more evangelicals are saying, “We are not going to be in the pocket of any political party.” We have woken up from our naiveté and we recognize that pre-election day promises have not translated into post-election day action. So the evangelical vote is more and more up for grabs. And that is a good thing!

Now, having stated what I’m grateful for, I need to briefly share with you three cautions regarding evangelical political involvement. I want you to notice, by the way, that my talk has more positives than negatives. The Puritans said that one of the measures of the truth of a sermon was that there would be more positives than negatives.

My first concern is to warn churches and pastors against partisan political involvements. It is impossible to be a biblical Christian without preaching on and working for justice, for the poor, or caring for the earth, or committing ourselves to peace-making, or committing ourselves to racial reconciliation, or being commitedly and consistently pro-life. But once churches and pastors begin to translate these broad value statements into very particular policy choices, we can unnecessarily divide the Body of Christ and obscure the gospel message.

I’m also concerned when churches don’t realize that the church uses different language than the language of politics. … Churches ought to speak prophetic language, not political language. It is not wrong to speak the language of politics, the language of compromise and “half a loaf is better than none,” when we are in the political arena. But church is not that arena. In church we speak prophetic language, the language of kingdom absolutes and moral imperatives – the language of Fannie Lou Hamer and the prophets Amos and Jeremiah, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

My third concern is that we Christians, whenever we engage in politics, remember the third and last clause of Micah 6:8. You remember Micah 6:8. “He has shown you, O people, what is good and what does the Lord require of you? To do justice, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.” Christians in politics often focus on the first two statements: doing justice and loving mercy. But there is an atmosphere in which our doing justice and our loving of mercy needs to be practiced … if we Christians come towards this world as servants, bearing the basin and the towel; if we commit ourselves to doing what we believe to be the will of God with humility; if we approach each other with humility and a willingness to listen and be persuaded; to learn and to be reconcilers; if, in other words, we “walk humbly with God,” then we will be faithful witnesses to Christ and will be used by him to be healers of this world.

Rich Nathan is senior pastor of the Vineyard Church of Columbus in Columbus, Ohio.

Full message text:

It is a real privilege and pleasure to share a platform with Jim Wallis. My wife and I subscribed to Sojourners magazine before it was titled Sojourners back in the early 1970s. I think it was called Post-American back then and it was being published from Chicago, Illinois. As the old Virginia Slims advertisement used to go, “You’ve come a long way, baby!” My wife and I actually considered after college moving to Washington and joining the Sojourner’s community. So, I have appreciated Jim through his writings for over three decades.

Many of you don’t know me, so I will give you the briefest of autobiographies. I am a native New Yorker. I was raised in Queens, New York, in a conservative Jewish family. Like most Jews from New York, my family v
oted Democrat going back to at least the days of FDR. As a teenager, I participated in Vietnam War protests at the U.N. and in front of various corporations that were military suppliers for the Pentagon.

I became a follower of Jesus as a freshman in college at Case Western Reserve. It was through the witness of the woman who was to become my wife and, in particular, through the goodness and decency of her life, that Christianity became a credible option for me. And it was at a Passover dinner in 1974 that I surrendered my life to Jesus as my Lord and my Messiah.

Following that decision, I joined an evangelical church in Cleveland. And then, when my wife and I moved down to Columbus for me to attend law school, we joined a tiny non-denominational Christian community that has since grown and has become known as the Vineyard Church of Columbus. In 1987, I left my job teaching business law at OSU to become our church’s first senior pastor. I’ve been serving in the role of senior pastor of the Vineyard for the last 19 years.

So, in sum, I’ve spent my entire adult life inside the evangelical world. For those of you who are not familiar with what an “evangelical” is, we are people who take seriously what can be called “classical Christianity.” We really believe the historic creeds of the church – the Apostles, Nicene, and Chalcedonian Creeds. Like all classical Christians, we believe that God is a Trinity – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We evangelicals believe that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh; that he was literally born of a virgin; that he suffered under Pontius Pilate; that he was crucified, dead, and buried, and rose bodily from the dead. We evangelicals believe that Christ ascended into heaven and that he is one day going to come back to judge the living and the dead. So we believe what classical Christians have always believed and taught throughout the 2000 years of church history.

And as children of the Reformation, we also believe that the Bible is our final authority for faith and practice.

Now, up until 1980 you could find prominent evangelicals in both the Republican and Democratic parties. Billy Graham was a model of bi-partisan influence. But in 1980 there was a shift in the evangelical world, and with the election of Ronald Reagan you saw evangelicals essentially line up behind one party – the Republican Party. In the last Presidential election, 75% of white evangelicals voted Republican.

During the 1980s and 1990s the most prominent television and radio evangelicals – people like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Kennedy, and James Dobson – began to influentially redefine evangelical political involvement as exclusively confined to the Republican political agenda.

But as I travel around the country and interact with a wide variety of evangelical leaders, I have discovered a changing landscape. I believe we are going to see an entirely new trajectory for evangelical political involvement over the next decade. Let me tick off five developments among evangelical leaders and lay people that I am particularly grateful for.

First of all, I am grateful that there is a broadening of the list of people who are now considered spokespersons for the evangelical movement. There are lots of us evangelicals who have found ourselves increasingly uncomfortable with the media’s selection of a few people of decidedly conservative politics who are regularly called our spokespeople. Whenever I hear this handful of people talk, I think, “This person doesn’t speak for me.” When did anti-gun control through an expansive read of the Second Amendment become a Christian issue?

Don’t you hate it when someone’s views are 180 degrees out of sync with yours and yet they are called your spokesperson? You say, “When did I vote for them?”

I’m grateful that there is a broadening of who are considered spokespersons for the evangelical movement. Not only is Jim Wallis being widely quoted, but so are folks like Rick Warren, and Tony Campolo, and Miroslav Volf from Yale University, and Richard Hays from Duke. These folks wonderfully broaden the spectrum of evangelical influencers.

Second, I’m grateful that there is a broadening of the evangelical agenda beyond the two hot-button issues of abortion and gay marriage. Evangelicals are saying, “How did we ever allow ourselves to become convinced that the entirety of the biblical agenda for our political involvement can be reduced to just two things – abortion and gay marriage?”

Now, like most evangelicals, I am convinced that abortion is a huge issue for which we must take a radical stand in opposition. I believe that the whole trajectory of gospel witness calls us to an inclusiveness towards those we call our neighbor. So in the parable of the Good Samaritan Jesus asks: Which of these was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers? Evangelicals believe that we are called to be the neighbor of the least powerful in the world – the unborn, the woman who finds herself with an unwanted pregnancy, the severely handicapped, and the elderly. That is why we evangelicals virtually unanimously oppose abortion on demand, partial birth abortions, and doctor-assisted suicides. That is also why we evangelicals have stood with women through their pregnancies via the many pregnancy distress centers set up throughout our nation by evangelicals.

It is also certainly the case that we, as a society, must provide necessary support for women and children not only during the 9 months of pregnancy, but also after. But, I have to be honest with you and tell you that I was quite disappointed with the statement on abortion that is in the “Voting God’s Politics” brochure. While the statement regarding capital punishment is absolute and unequivocal, stating “our nation’s use of the death penalty should end,” the statement on abortion waffles and calls for “common ground policies that dramatically reduce the abortion rate.” We lawyers would say that the abortion statement contains “weasel words.” I believe the statement on abortion needs to be more absolute.

Having said that, I am so grateful that there is a broadening of the evangelical agenda that expands beyond abortion and gay marriage. There are many evangelicals coming out in opposition to global warming. There are more evangelicals speaking out about global poverty and the relief of Third World debt and AIDS. And I’m proud of the fact that evangelicals are taking the lead on some of the world’s most pressing issues. Specifically, it is largely the evangelical public that keeps the crisis in the Darfur region from being buried by the headlines of rising gas prices and falling tax rates. It is evangelicals who refuse to allow the President or the Congress to forget the Darfur region. And it is largely evangelicals who have kept global sex trade on the front burner for this administration. In fact, an evangelical organization called the International Justice Mission has led the way in fighting global sex trafficking.

Third, I’m grateful that evangelicals are moving away from our prior unreserved, unquestioning support for American military action around the world. Many evangelicals are now saying, “How did it come to be that we who claim to follow the Prince of Peace are stauncher advocates of war than any other demographic group in America?” And even those of us who do not come from a pacifist tradition, but rather a just-war tradition, have begun to ask, “How can some of our most recent wars be considered just?”

You know, St. Augustine, the father of the just war tradition, said that Christians may, on occasion, legitimately go to war. But we always do so with great reluctance and with tears.

Many of us evangelicals have asked ourselves, “Shouldn’t we Christians be the most difficult to convince of any group of people regarding the legitimacy of war? Shouldn’t we have the strongest presumption against war and require the government to have the highest
burden of proof before we reluctantly, and with tears, go along with war?”

I am grateful that I am seeing a shift away from unreserved, unquestioning support for American military action among evangelicals.

Fourth, I am grateful that I am witnessing a shift among evangelicals towards the view that with God’s help, it is possible to change this world. The traditional evangelical view of the world is that the world is hopelessly fallen. Or to use the great 19th century evangelist, D.L. Moody’s line, “The world has hit an iceberg and the ship is going down. The only thing we can do is pull as many people as possible into the life boats.” So, for a century, many evangelicals have believed that it is an absolute waste of time to try to improve this fallen world, since to do so would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

But without being naïve regarding the fallenness of this world, or the difficulty of change, there are many evangelicals who are saying, “world change is possible with God’s help.” In just the past fifteen years, we have witnessed the Roman Catholic Church rise up under the leadership of Pope John Paul II and throw off the chains of communism. We witnessed the fall of the Berlin Wall. We saw the church rise up under the leadership of Bishop Desmond Tutu in South Africa; and we saw the fall of the apartheid government. Christians largely led the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine. It was Christians under the leadership of William Wilberforce who led the anti-slavery movement in the British empire. The American civil rights movement at its inception was largely led by the church.

I am grateful to see a growing hope among us evangelicals, that with God’s help the world can change.

And fifth, I am grateful that many more evangelicals are saying, “We are not going to be in the pocket of any political party.” We have woken up from our naiveté and we recognize that pre-election day promises have not translated into post-election day action. So the evangelical vote is more and more up for grabs. And that is a good thing!

Now, having stated what I’m grateful for, I need to briefly share with you three cautions regarding evangelical political involvement. I want you to notice, by the way, that my talk has more positives than negatives. The Puritans said that one of the measures of the truth of a sermon was that there would be more positives than negatives.

My first concern is to warn churches and pastors against partisan political involvements. It is impossible to be a biblical Christian without preaching on and working for justice, for the poor, or caring for the earth, or committing ourselves to peacemaking, or committing ourselves to racial reconciliation, or being commitedly and consistently pro-life. But once churches and pastors begin to translate these broad value statements into very particular policy choices, we can unnecessarily divide the body of Christ and obscure the gospel message.

I am concerned that in many congregations people feel like they have to go through two conversions in order to receive Christ. First, they have to be converted to the church’s partisan political views, and secondly, they have to be converted to Christ.

I believe that it is generally best for pastors and churches to serve as spiritual advisors for those whose calling it is to engage in the political arena. We have many people in our congregation who are involved in politics on both sides of the aisle – both Democrats and Republicans. I hold up as personal models for me John Wesley and Charles Simeon, who taught the scriptures faithfully, who advised and prayed for and promoted biblical thinking among those involved in the political arena. But then they left it to groupings of Christians outside of the church and new societies such as the abolitionist societies to fight these issues through in the legislature.

I recently had very painful conversation with a Christian pastor here in town. His congregation is quite partisan and definitely leans in one direction politically. I asked my Christian brother about this, saying, “If someone was in your church and they were a sincere follower of Christ, but they disagreed with you about your political stands, would they feel marginalized in your church?”

He said, “Yes, they would.”

I asked, “Why would you do that to a member of the body of Christ?”

I’m concerned when partisan positions unnecessarily divide the body and obscure the message of the gospel.

I’m also concerned when churches don’t realize that the church uses different language than the language of politics. Let me tell you a story.

There was a great hero of the civil rights movement that many of you may not have ever heard of. Her name was Fannie Lou Hamer. Fannie Lou Hamer was the founder of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party. In the summer of 1964, the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party challenged the credentials of the lily-white Mississippi slate of delegates to the Democratic National Convention. The Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party offered an integrated slate of delegates, many of whom, like Mrs. Hamer, tried to register to vote in Mississippi, but were punished for it. In fact, Fannie Lou Hamer was jailed on a number of occasions, and tortured in jail, for doing such outrageous things as trying to register to vote in the United States.

Well, this conflict between the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party and the white slate of delegates selected by the Mississippi Democratic Party was threatening the peace of the 1964 Democratic National Convention. President Johnson didn’t want the controversy to upset his ride to the White House, so he sent his Vice President, Hubert Humphrey, to visit Mrs. Hamer and to try to get her to back off.

Humphrey, who was the ever-happy warrior, went believing that he was just going to be talking to a typical politically motivated human being. So he asked Fannie Lou Hamer what she wanted.

Now Fannie Lou Hamer was a woman who had been taken hold of by Jesus Christ. And Fannie Lou Hamer responded to Vice President Humphrey by saying, “What I want is the beginning of a new kingdom right here on earth.”

Humphrey didn’t know how to deal with that statement. So he tried to explain things in political terms. He wanted Fannie Lou Hamer to understand that if he and Johnson were nominated, that they would work hard for Civil Rights, so she should compromise now and not push her slate of delegates.

Here’s Fannie Lou Hamer’s response:

Senator Humphrey, I know lots of people in Mississippi who have lost their jobs for trying to register to vote. I had to leave the plantation where I worked in Sunflower County. Now, if you lose this job of Vice President because you do what is right, because you help MFDP, everything will be all right. God will take care of you. But if you take the nomination this way, why, you will never be able to do any good for civil rights, for poor people, for peace, or any of those things you talk all the time about. Senator Humphrey, I’m going to pray to Jesus for you.

Churches ought to speak prophetic language, not political language. It is not wrong to speak the language of politics, the language of compromise and “half a loaf is better than none,” when we are in the political arena. But church is not that arena. In church we speak prophetic language, the language of kingdom absolutes and moral imperatives – the language of Fannie Lou Hamer and the prophets Amos and Jeremiah, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

My third concern is that we Christians, whenever we engage in politics, remember the third and last clause of Micah 6:8. You remember Micah 6:8. “He has shown you, O people, what is good and what does the Lord require of you? To do justice, and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Christians in politics often focus on the first two statements, doing justice and loving mercy. But there i
s an atmosphere in which our doing justice and our loving of mercy needs to be practiced. One of the great dangers of any human being wanting to do justice is having a self-righteous, ugly, divisive, mentality, this sense of moral superiority in which the zealot for justice approaches the world: “Only people like me care about the poor. Only people like me care about the environment. Only people like me care about the unborn. Only people like me are really in touch with the true issues of the world.”

What saves us from the awful stench of self-righteous, moral indignation is a commitment to walk humbly with God. We followers of Jesus can never approach the rest of the church or the rest of the world with some kind of triumphalism – we can fix everything; we can solve every problem; if people would just get on board with our agenda, the world would be healed.

God continually reminds us that we are limited. Life continually teaches us that there are issues and problems that go far beyond our wisdom and our resources. Real change is always much more difficult than we ever predict. And no one ever likes someone standing over them judging them.

But if we Christians come towards this world as servants, bearing the basin and the towel; if we commit ourselves to doing what we believe to be the will of God with humility; if we approach each other with humility and a willingness to listen and be persuaded; to learn and to be reconcilers; if, in other words, we “walk humbly with God,” then we will be faithful witnesses to Christ and will be used by him to be healers of this world.



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Wolverine

posted November 8, 2006 at 1:09 am


A genuinely Christian left with a consistent pro-life ethic should at least be able to forthrightly support sharp limits on abortion, such as parental notification laws or prohibitions on partial-birth abortions. The Wallis-Sojourners position is indistinguishable from the Clinton “safe, legal, and rare” fudge. Political alliances being what they are, the only word that means anything is “legal”. The refusal to use state authority to protect life even in the late stages of preganancy suggests that Wallis and company have yet to seriously consider the implications of abortion. Wolverine>



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Frederick No Alias

posted November 8, 2006 at 11:45 am


At what point in the future of the american christian experience are we going to stop believing we are some how above others and or elite in our ways Yeah i hear the denials already, anyway.This lie has caused us to lose sight of the truth of who Christ called us to be “the light of the World”.And if the light is in the dark as it relates to it’s identity well the prognosis isn’t very good.We are not Republicans or Democrates we are Joint-Heirs lets remember or name before we label another group, person or movement, in this country. And if we are going to emerse(spellck) our selves in politics lets fight for what christianity stands for; not more wealth-based elitist american applepie hogwash. And consider the fact that in a nation supposedly 80%christian we are unable to pray and or say the name jesus within a hundred yards of a school, the slaughter of the innocent continues unabaited even with the last 20 years of Right-wing republichristian influence,(oh you like that one huh?). True Poverty exist right here at home and no all poor people don’t wanna be, that’s the lie they told you so you could walk past the poor through your white-picket fence in you quiet neighborhood jump in your Suburban/minivan/suv/republican fundraiser(ref gas prices)go to your megachurch pay tithes providing funding for foriegn missions, come home watch the game and sleep like a baby, because you’ve done your christian duty.It’s really sickning maybe we ought to find a new title for the faith,because this one suddenly feels dirty sorta like if the the bride of Christ(the church) was having an affair and the Lord, suddenly walked in and caught her in bed with the Republican party.Not enough showers to get clean from that one. Fortunatly there is enough blood and If his(my)people who are called by his(my)name would humble them selves and Pray seek His face and turn from their wicked ways,then He(I) will hear from Heaven, forgive their sins, and heal their land. Christ is just to forgive i only pray that the greater church is humble enough to say I’m sorry. ps.Osama confessed to 9/11,there are weapons of mass destruction in Sudan,they are called mascheetes and fire,ask any Sudaneese christian how effective they are,and what if we had built a 700 hundred mile wall around Ellis Island?>



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sherry clark

posted November 9, 2006 at 8:06 pm


I was at this speech given by Rich Nathan. It was an example of why the far right was rejected by the American Public on November 7. Applying that lesson of far-right unpopularity, is it any wonder why the American church is in decline? Rich was arrogant and showed no compassion or tolerance for those who disagreed with his views. He not only took up too much time from the featured speaker, Jim Wallis, he openly criticised Jim based on his own rigid interpretations of scripture. Rich actually criticized Jim Wallis for merely seeking common ground on issues like abortion. Rich disagreed with abortion under all circumstances and therefore criticized Sojourner’s Election 2006 brochure that sought to find common ground with both sides in order to drastically reduce abortion while also supporting the lives of the resulting children and mothers. I was inspired by Jim’s wisdom in respectfully acknowleging the uncompromising views of Rich Nathan. Jim showed that he can apply Christ’s teachings to conflict by thanking Rich for his criticism and further promising to take Rich’s criticism into consideration! Did we witness a modern parable of a wise man and a fool? Let me describe how Rich Nathan’s absolute moral authoritarian attitude affected some in the audience. I sat next to a man who identified himself with the homosexual population. The man was aware of Rich’s reputation, but he came to hear for himself whether Rich had developed a deeper understanding and compassion for others. As a result of the man’s reaction to Rich’s evangelocentric views the man was unable to hear the more compelling speech given by Jim Wallace…a message imploring Christians to dig deeper into their faith and actively applying it to the issues of the day…issues that deeply affect the man that sat next to me. What a shame! What a waste of an opportunity to buld a bridge between believers and a non-believer. Is that how the stranger should feel when he comes as a guest in our Father’s house? Is it any wonder why Jesus was more upset with the Pharisees than the sinners? How can we share the Good News of love, when the unbelievers can only hear our message of intolerance and moral superiority? Why do we have enough religious doctrine to magnify our differences, but not enough theological wisdom to magnify God’s love for one another? Is it any wonder that this gay man (as well as others) don’t like the “Christian” message? They can’t hear Jesus’s message over our own words, doctrines, actions and inactions. We are utterly wretched! How can Rich be so proud..how can any of us? Christians have got to learn to speak the many dialects of the language that Jesus tried to teach us…the language of love. Dr. David Ray Griffin said, “Religions of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your impotence!” Dr. Griffin was speaking about Christians’ need to demand justice concerning 9-11 truth, but God’s love can be equally revolutionary. God knows everything and we quite simply don’t. A person who claims to hold “The truth” instead of demonstrating his commitment to seeking it, shows a naked fallability due to his pride. Pride has no value in the Christian life. Christians who need to feel proud should be proud of all Christ accomplished in His life. What have we done with His teachings and all that He did for us? Those of us to whome much has been given had better have something to show for it when the Master comes. What have we done for Him lately? God is capable of judging the absolute correct side of the issue, but I question any man’s claim to do the same. How can we accurately view the many colors of our earth if we live in a world of black and white? Were some of us there when He separated the light from the dark? Is that why some of us are capable of judging the world in absolutes of ‘right and wrong’ and ‘us and them?’ If rainbows are in full view, yet we can only see black and white, how then can we claim to comprehend the absolute beauty and fullness of God? How can we predict His absolute last word when we can’t make out his clear message of our purpose? The obvious irony of my criticism for the Far-right’s absolute, evengelical attitude is that I too judge. I know I haven’t got a degree or a title, yet even I can understand God’s impatience with pride and judgement. I am the mother of two little girls. They would never claim such moral and absolute authority. If evangelicals believe the bible exactly as it is written, wouldn’t they want to be like the little children who will be in the Kingdom of God? The little children who are constantly seeking to understand their father’s ways? If we want to be in harmony with God’s ultimate truth, we must first eat a thick slice of humble pie. Only then can we swallow the truth of God’s message to love one another and apply it to our words and deeds.>



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zena

posted November 10, 2006 at 7:24 pm


i don’t know if children always seek to understand their father’s ways…most of the time they try to avoid the ways of the father and do what they want to do. children as depcited in the kindgom are honored for their unwavering belief, not for their desire to be like dad. this speech seems to be directed against the type of christianity you judge rich as representing. how can that be? is it that if someone has even one absolute then they have nothing worth hearing?>



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cheryl j

posted November 11, 2006 at 1:36 am


I totally agree with zena’s post most of these evangicals just want to control your life god gave every man the right and free will to choose or not to choose. some of these people just want to control your life they dont care about anything. Look at the history of catholism in this country and around the world.>



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Reese

posted November 11, 2006 at 4:13 am


I fear you misunderstood Zena’s comment. What I hear her saying is challenging Sherry’s harsh judgement of Rich Nathan. Rich gave a speech that called for Christians to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly. These are the very qualitys that Sherry sees as lacking in Rich’s message. How can that be? I would challenge Sherry to listen to some of Rich’s sermons and get to know the ministries that his church, The Columbus Vineyard, has started. They are reaching out to people in all walks of life in humility and in love. The immediate community is being changed simply because the Columbus Vineyard is down the street and investing in the lives of their neighbeors, whomever they may be. I was not at this event and did not hear, first hand, Rich Nathan deliver this message. I have heard him deliver the Word of God with authority AND humility on other occasions. I have known people who have served under his authority and who speak highly of his integrity and heart for people. It can be tricky to judge, with such harshness, an individual on one sermon or speech or comment. Also, in the same way that one might become frustrated with single issue voters, (in this case Evangelicals who vote only on abortion) I think it is important for us not to throw out wisdom and exhortation from a man who is doing the work of the kingdom simply because we may disagree with his political stance on one issue. Politics can be tricky. We are forced to put our trust in one individual, or party, to bring justice to our country, state, city… I think we have to realize that only one person can do that for us, the person of Jesus Christ. Until His Kingdom is fully here on Earth, we need Rich Nathans and we need Jim Wallises. We need men and women of integrity who will call us to do justice and point us to the cross, whatever their stance on abortion, gay marriage, or any other issue in the political forum. What we don’t need is division and judgement in the body. Reese>



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Lisa

posted November 11, 2006 at 11:08 pm


I was amazed and pleased to see Rich Nathan standing with Jim & Sojourners. I really hope he has “seen the light” and truly sees the war in Iraq as an unjust, unnecessary evil. His position after the U.S. invasion was one of complete support of the Bush Administration’s pre-emptive policy. In Christian charity, I will believe he has repented of his jingoism because it is anti-Jesus and anti-biblical, and not because political winds are changing in conservative evangelicalism (and in the Vineyard).>



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posted December 24, 2011 at 2:15 am


Background of Yemechereshaw Zemen Yemenfes Kidus Church
(Last Days Holy Spirit Church)
God has revealed the revelation of planting a Church sensitive to the works of Holy Spirit through Pastor Solomon Hailemariam. Pastor Solomon Hailemariam is a servant of God who served God with Meserete Kiristos Church from 1988 up to 2007.in a senior pastor position.
During his service Meserete Kiristos Church, God has given him a vision to preach the gospel to Muslim compatriots particularly to the people of Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia as well as Ethiopian Afar community.
The divine Call and Message came to the Assembly and church leaders where has been serving.
The leaders of the church accepted the revelation and presented Pastor Solomon and his family to the Assembly of Church members and he has been released by blessing and praying publicly for the vision came from the Lord.
Thereafter, Pastor Solomon has gathered persons who support the vision and he was given a license and authorization in 2007 to establish and organize church in entire parts of Ethiopia. So that he can contribute to wards Spiritual awakening of the nation. Next, he and his groups opened Addis Ababa Local Church and the head office there by started to give spiritual service in all aspects. Then the church has been giving spiritual service by sending missionaries to Djibouti, different parts of Ethiopia, Ethiopian border to Somalia areas and Sudan as well as Afar region of the country.
1. Yemechereshaw Zemen Yemenfes Kidus Church Doctrinal Statement
We believe that the Bible is the final standard of faith and practice for the believer in Jesus Christ and his Church.
Bible
We believe that God has revealed himself and his truth by both general and special revelation.

God
We believe there is but one living and true God, who is in finite, eternal, and unchangeable in his being wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness loyal love and truth.
God the father
God the father, one of the trinity, orders and disposes all things according to his own purpose and grace. As the absolute and highest ruler in the universe he is sovereign in creation, providence, in creation providence, and redemption.
God the son
Jesus Christ, one of the trinity, is the eternal Son of God and the virgin-born son of Man who was incarnated as the God-Man to reveal God. Redeem human beings and as Messiah rule over God’s kingdom.
God the Holy Sprit
We believe it is the work of the Holy Spirit, the third person of the trinity, to execute the divine will with relation to humanity. We affirm this sovereign activity in creation, the incarnation, the written revelation and the work of salvation.
Angels
We believe the angels were all created simultaneously by God as a great host of sinless Spirit – beings, most of who kept their first estate of holiness and presently worship God and serve his purposes.
The fall of some
One angel fell from sinless ness through pride, and influenced a large company of angles follow him, who there by become demon, scripture calls his angle the Devil or Satan.
Satan’s work
The work of Satan and the demons is the attempted subversion and supplanting of the work of God. By a subtle suggestion, Satan accomplished the moral fall of the progenitors of the human race, subjecting them and their progenitors of the human race; subjecting them and their posterity to his own power.
Judgment on Satan
Satan was judged at the cross, although the sentence was not then executed. He will finally be consigned to the lake of fire at the end of the millennium.
The original Man
We believe God created man and woman without natural processes in his image, free from sin. They were created with a rational nature, great intelligence, and moral responsibility to God.
Purpose
They were created with the divine intention that they should glorify God, enjoy his fellowship. And fulfill his will and purposes on the earth.
Salvation
We believe salvation consists in the satisfaction of divine justice, the forgiveness of sin and reconciliation with God, the imputation of the righteousness of Jesus Christ, the gift of eternal life, every spiritual resource needed for life and Godliness, and the guarantee that those thus saved shall never perish.

Church
We believe all who have placed their faith in Christ are immediately united by the Holy Spirit in to one spiritual body, the Church, of which Christ is the head. The Church began on the day of Pentecost and will be completed at the coming of Christ, in addition to the spiritual union and communion who extend to the entire body of Christ; the members of this spiritual body are directed to identify themselves with local assemblies.
Last things
We believe that at death the redeemed pass immediately in to the presence of Christ and there remain tin joyful fellowship until the first resurrection that is their bodily resurrection unto life. The unsaved at death descend immediately into Hades where they are kept under punishment until the second resurrection, that is, their body resurrection unto damnation.
And also
We believe the Rapture of the Church & the Tribulation period & and the Millennium & and the Eternal State…
2. License given by government so that Yemechereshaw Zemen Yemenfes Kidus Church gives spiritual service in 9 regions of the country;

3. Photograph that showing the commencement process of the church in Addis Ababa City;

4. Photograph that displays members on worship;

5. Photograph showing prayer service of the Church
6.Photograph showing the first baptism celebration

8. Photographs of Executive Members (Board committee)

Currently, the Church is growing faster than the human and financial sources. However, by the grace of God the senior pastor and leadership are stretched to meet the demanding situations in the Mission fields and the national Church. Therefore the senior pastor and the entire leadership and congregation seek to partner with like-minds ministries and Churches to fulfill the great commission .So; we call for partnership in the following areas.
a. Shoulder us in prayer to succeed in ministry
b. Come to Ethiopia and join hands in the kingdom of God’s work the nation and our service to the neighboring Muslims.
c. Provide us capacity building, trainings and resource raising skills
d. If your situation concedes with our doctrine and statement of faith, we are willing to be your affiliate.

God Bless you,
Our contact address:
Contact person, Pastor Solomon h/m
Email: yzykchurch@yahoo.com
Office Tel +251114168007
Mobile: 0911649636
P.O.Box 1404 Code 1250
Addis Ababa
Ethiopia
Bank Account: Commercial Bank of Ethiopia
Temenja Yaj Branch
Swift code=CBETETAA
Yemechereshaw Zemen Yemenfes Kidus Church
Bank Account No: 0171832384500



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