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Prof Caught Red-Handed Reading Jim Wallis
by Randall Balmer

I guess we suspected it all along, but now we have proof: Jim Wallis is a left-wing, anti-capitalist.

That’s the apparent message behind the dismissal of Andrew Paquin from the faculty of Colorado Christian University. Until Monday, Paquin was a professor of global studies who also is executive director of something called the 10/10 Project, a Colorado-based international advocacy organization that promotes development in Africa. Last year, Paquin, a popular teacher, had been named “faculty member of the year.”

His crime? According to the Rocky Mountain News, the school’s president, Bill Armstrong, former U.S. senator from Colorado, fired Paquin “amid concerns that his lessons were too radical and undermined the school’s commitment to the free enterprise system.” Specifically, Paquin had the temerity to ask his students to read books by Peter Singer, the animal-rights ethicist at Princeton University, and by our friend Jim Wallis.

This whole episode could be a reprise of the Nixon-era “enemies list,” when people who did not make the list sent condolence notes to one another. In this case, if your book didn’t appear on Paquin’s reading list, somehow it missed the mark.

I guess I wasn’t aware that capitalism was under siege – what with the collapse of the Soviet empire and China’s headlong rush into a market-based economy. But the president of Colorado Christian University apparently feels otherwise. Capitalism, in fact, appears to be Jesus’ preferred economic system.

“I don’t think there is another system that is more consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ,” Armstrong told the Rocky Mountain News. “What the university stands for, among other things, is free markets.”

Armstrong didn’t specify exactly how the writings of Singer or Wallis contradicted his beloved free-market ideology. Paquin's own non-profit actually offers mirco-loans to help Africans start small businesses, and he has plenty of nice things to say about capitalism. "But," he told the Rocky Mountain News, "I'd stop short of deifying it."

Colorado Christian University, based in Lakewood, Colorado, adopted a set of “strategic objectives” last year, one of which was the desire to “impact our culture in support of traditional family values, sanctity of life, compassion for the poor, biblical view of human nature, limited government, personal freedom, free markets, natural law, original intent of the Constitution and Western civilization.”

Armstrong told the Rocky Mountain News that he was “probably” part of the Religious Right.

Trust me, Bill. You qualify.


Randall Balmer is professor of American religious history at Barnard College, Columbia University and a visiting professor at Yale Divinity School. He very much hopes that his book, Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts the Faith and Threatens America, was on Andrew Paquin’s reading list. His latest book, God in the White House: A History, will be released in January.

 

Comments

You're expecting to find academic freedom at a 'Christian' University?
Forget it.

The 'free market' trumps academic freedom.

After an orangutan nearly raped a lady scientist, Singer wrote:

"but the aspect of the story that struck me most forcefully was that in the eyes of someone who has lived much of her life with orangutans, to be seen by one of them as an object of sexual interest is not a cause for shock or horror. The potential violence of the orangutan's come-on may have been disturbing, but the fact that it was an orangutan making the advances was not. That may be because Galdikas understands very well that we are animals, indeed more specifically, we are great apes."

He also advocated infanticide, which, while not being explicitly anti-Capitalist, is pretty !@#@$% up, not that indifference to bestiality doesn't get him there anyway.

Wallis did write that those fleeing the Khmer Rouge were doing so to sate their capitlalistic urges, which is a smidge anti-capitalist (and almost as !@#$%^ up).

Also, if you read the article, Armstrong notes that one can be a Socialist and a good Christian, and that there is no link between salvation and economic views.

So what is your point?

Not only does academic freedom NOT exist at these 'Christian' 'Universities', the concept of freedom of speech is apparently a crime.

I get tired of hearing them called institutions of higher eduction. Let's call them what they are - institutions of indoctrination and brainwashing. Look at the lawyers Regent University has turned out. Apparently, the ability to interpret the law was skimmed over while the concept of actually applying it was just ignored.

I think there has to be more to this dismissal than reading a book - even Wallis' book. If he was released because of Wallis' book - they saw something in it that I never did - whick they could have. For me - it has been a great treatment for my insomnia.

Have a great day!
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kevin:

"He also advocated infanticide, which, while not being explicitly anti-Capitalist, is pretty !@#@$% up, not that indifference to bestiality doesn't get him there anyway.

Wallis did write that those fleeing the Khmer Rouge were doing so to sate their capitlalistic urges, which is a smidge anti-capitalist (and almost as !@#$%^ up)."

How about a reference or a link to support your hearsay, kevin?

And what is YOUR point, kevin?

Posted by: Charity | August 15, 2007 2:46 PM

Someone's lawyer is another persons ambulance chaser.

'...institutions of indoctrination and brainwashing...'

guess you just have to make the decision as to who you want to wash your brain. (LOL)

Have a great day...
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"You're expecting to find academic freedom at a 'Christian' University?
Forget it."

Do you expect to find it at non-Christian universities? Iowa State refused tenure to an astronomer on the basis of a book he wrote advancing scientific evidence that the earth was not designed at random thanks to a campaign by an atheistic professor of religion who equates the Bible to Mein Kampfand said that "any act of love based on religion is immoral".

The professor in question co-authored a textbook used by intorductory students.

Is that the academic freedom for which you pine?


"I think there has to be more to this dismissal than reading a book - even Wallis' book. If he was released because of Wallis' book - they saw something in it that I never did - whick they could have. For me - it has been a great treatment for my insomnia."

Time to wake up, modlad.

I attended CCU from Fall of '94 to Spring of '95. Just one year. Long enough to rack up a lot of student loans and to discover I didn't belong there.

I got into a fight with then-University President over tuition increases of 13% and turned my back to him in protest in front of the entire student body.

Two Presidents later, we get this story, which is not too different from a scandal while I was there involving the dismissal of an ancient languages scholar for being too liberal. I was mad about that, too.

And, if my memory is right CCU is also home to our beloved K-Love. You know, positive, encouraging, sappy enough to make you vomit K-Love.

But the issue here is interesting to me.

I read Wallis' book. I've heard of Singer. I read a lot of atheists and liberals who I disagree with, and plenty of Conservatives I disagree with. And I think I'm smart enough to come up with my own educated opinion about these things. And I think college students are smart enough, too.

Shall we protect our children until they are in the grave, or do we expose them to all the ideas of the real world and challenge them to synthesize what they read with what they observe for themselves?

Then again, if CCU wants to let a guy with just a Master's degree and only two years experience go, there should not be a big baruhaha about it.

Finally, there is the issue of capitalism through this incident. If the Prof wants to better reconcile Jesus' mandate with the effectiveness of capitalism he needs to consider renouncing the state, and discerning between the church and society.

Nathanael Snow

kevin,
"Do you expect to find it at non-Christian universities? Iowa State refused tenure to an astronomer on the basis of a book he wrote advancing scientific evidence that the earth was not designed at random thanks to a campaign by an atheistic professor of religion who equates the Bible to Mein Kampfand said that "any act of love based on religion is immoral".

Wasn't it the Iowa State Board of Education that banned the teaching of evolution in public schools, only to have their decree thrown out by a judge?

For once I can agree with N. Snow.
Except for the last two paragraphs.

Justintime,

I brought up the Wallis quote before, and you asked for a link that time. Go back through the archives. He said it.

As for Singer, you can find the sources for all of Singer's stuff on Wiki.

"You're expecting to find academic freedom at a 'Christian' University?
Forget it."

I also wonder if there isn't more to this story. If this is the whole story let's not prejudge all Christian Institutions of higher learning. My experiences in a Christian University and a Seminary was that everything was in play to discuss in the classroom relevant to the topic of the course.

Ask the former president of Harvard about academic freedom.

Jeff

Wasn't it the Iowa State Board of Education that banned the teaching of evolution in public schools, only to have their decree thrown out by a judge?

Kansas. And some of those anti-evolution folks eventually were replaced.

Denying a particular professor tenure, at Iowa State or wherever, is sometimes controversial. Declining to offer tenure to any of your professors, as a matter of general policy--as is the practice at CCU--is the very definition of hostility toward academic freedom. There's a fundamental difference.

Kevin says:

"I brought up the Wallis quote before, and you asked for a link that time. Go back through the archives. He said it."

As for Singer, you can find the sources for all of Singer's stuff on Wiki.

I don't remember this at all and I hope you can forgive me for not accepting out-of-context quotes in support of ambiguous and non-existent points.

Kevin says: "As for Singer, you can find the sources for all of Singer's stuff on Wiki."

Wiki on Singer: "Consistent with his general ethical theory, Singer holds that the right to physical integrity is grounded in a being's ability to suffer, and the right to life is grounded in, among other things, the ability to plan and anticipate one's future. Since the unborn, infants and severely disabled people lack the latter (but not the former) ability, he states that abortion, painless infanticide and euthanasia can be justified in certain special circumstances, for instance in the case of severely disabled infants whose life would cause suffering both to themselves and to their parents."

Kevin says: "Again, nationalized care or no, unless we make some tough decisions about the elderly, the obese, smokers and so forth, we are going to have an extremely expensive system, more expensive than the one we have today."

Sounds like Singer has a philosophical argument to support your position on health care, Kevin.

"Wasn't it the Iowa State Board of Education that banned the teaching of evolution in public schools, only to have their decree thrown out by a judge?"

I am referring to the University.

"And what is YOUR point, kevin?"

My point is that this professor was removed for teaching for teaching from Singer's texts. If I send my kid to a private Christian school (not that I would), I would certainly expect them to teach in accordance with Christian values, and Singer's views are despicable.

In addition to his anti-Captialistic views, Wallis also advocates legal abortion and gay marriage. I think most college kids can see through God's Politics, and I don't know to what extent Wallis' work in particular played in the firing, but one can sense a pattern.

If Balmer disagrees with the firing, that is fine. Let's have a discussion about it. But he should at least discuss the article he cites honestly, as opposed to pretending that the school teaches the gospel of capitalism. Balmer knows who Singer is, and why he is controversial.

Posted by: justintimr | August 15, 2007 2:55 PM

Time to wake up, modlad.

still with the oneliners - very origional justintime

all the best - 'Moderatelad' not laddy not modlad just Moderatelad.
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Wiki has all the sources you would need for the Singer quotes. He has written extensively on these issues whether you have heard of him or not. Wallis' quote can be found in the Weekly Standard article about him, among other places.

Another quote from Peter Singer:

On his recent appearance on The Colbert Report, Singer said "I don't support sex with animals, I think it's a lot more fun to do it with humans".

"My point is that this professor was removed for teaching for teaching from Singer's texts. If I send my kid to a private Christian school (not that I would), I would certainly expect them to teach in accordance with Christian values, and Singer's views are despicable. "

How do you know he wasn't? Just because he used Singer's texts doesn't mean he was advocating them. What if he was introducing Singer for the purpose of showing other worldviews that are not in line with the Gospel? My high school English teacher taught from the Bible, not because he was advocating Christianity (although he was a Christian) but because much of Western Lit is rooted in the Biblical text. I'm sure there is some sort of comparative religion course at this school--do they not allow students to read the Koran?

There seems to be this inherent fear in Christian education that if students learn about opposing world views they will chuck Christianity and follow after all manner of ungodly ideas. I wouldn't want my kids indoctrinated in the Christian worldview as much as I would want them to be able to think for themselves, understand and be able to critically analyze other world views, and be able to robustly challenge and defend their own faith. They will be exposed to other world views sooner or later.

Assigning an author's writings for students to read isn't the same thing as agreeing with that person's views: a nuance that seems to have gotten lost in this discussion so far.

Kevin says:

"Wallis did write that those fleeing the Khmer Rouge were doing so to sate their capitlalistic urges, which is a smidge anti-capitalist (and almost as !@#$%^ up).

Wallis' quote can be found in the Weekly Standard article about him, among other places."

Weekly Standard:

"In September 1979, Wallis wrote of the Vietnamese "boat people": "Many of today's refugees were inoculated with a taste for a Western lifestyle during the war years and are fleeing to support their consumer habit in other lands," somehow managing to credit their desperate flight in fear of totalitarian oppression to the corruption of capitalism."

What's your point, Kevin?

Kevin says:

"If Balmer disagrees with the firing, that is fine. Let's have a discussion about it. But he should at least discuss the article he cites honestly, as opposed to pretending that the school teaches the gospel of capitalism."

Rocy Mountain News:

"Armstrong won't discuss Paquin's case specifically, but he says free enterprise is fundamental to the school's philosophy.

"I don't think there is another system that is more consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ," Armstrong said.

That doesn't mean socialists can't be good Christians, and a belief in free enterprise is not linked to salvation, Armstrong added.

But free enterprise is the message of Colorado Christian, he said. "What the university stands for, among other things, is free markets."

Paquin, 36, says he supports capitalism, too. The Lafayette-based charity he founded gives "micro-loans" to poor Africans, allowing them to start simple businesses.

"It's obviously been one of the greatest wealth generators in the world," Paquin said of capitalism.

"But," he added, "I'd stop short of deifying it."
_______________________________________________

Kevin, we know you despise Randall Balmer, but you've wrongfully accused him of dishonesty here.

Please don't waste precious time with your incessant heckling on this blog.

Do you expect to find it at non-Christian universities? Iowa State refused tenure to an astronomer on the basis of a book he wrote advancing scientific evidence that the earth was not designed at random thanks to a campaign by an atheistic professor of religion who equates the Bible to Mein Kampfand said that "any act of love based on religion is immoral".

Or you could point to the same professors lack of original research (which he was supposed to be doing being on tenure-track)as the main factor if his tenure denial.

"What's your point, Kevin?"

Um... That the boat people were fleeing "re-education" camps, which has nothing to do with their taste for western lifestyle, and that Wallis' remarks were cruel, ignorant and (rather obviously) anti-capitalist.

"Assigning an author's writings for students to read isn't the same thing as agreeing with that person's views: a nuance that seems to have gotten lost in this discussion so far."

It isn't lost, and if the professor simply used Singer's texts as a counterexample to something righteous, it is difficult for me to believe that this would be reason for termination. The article doesn't say that this is the case, and I could be wrong in making the assumption that it is not.

"There seems to be this inherent fear in Christian education that if students learn about opposing world views they will chuck Christianity and follow after all manner of ungodly ideas."

Perhaps that is a fair criticism. In what way then, should Christian universities differentiate themselves from secular institutions? Either way, Balmer's point is not that it is wrong to fire a professor for teaching from the works of a nutjob.

I have nothing to do with a Christian university since I am not of that faith but it seems to me that a private college of any kind can hire and fire as they wish.

Hopefull the professor will find work elsewhere where he can do as he wishes.

Laura

SO MUCH FOR COLORADO CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY

In this case, Andrew Paquin, the fired Professor at Colorado Christian U, makes a lot more sense than Bill Armstrong, the CCU President who fired him.

Paquin was named "Professor of the Year".
I hope he gets a better job at a real University.

Armstrong is the "Fool of the Year" at CCU.
Armstrong and his ilk are the reason why wise parents don't send their kids to private Christian Universities.

At a real University, you can study anything and everything.

In what way then, should Christian universities differentiate themselves from secular institutions?

By not promulgating myth as fact???

In what way then, should Christian universities differentiate themselves from secular institutions?
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By not promulgating myth as fact???
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Could you parse this out for us, Aaron?

"In what way then, should Christian universities differentiate themselves from secular institutions?"

They should encourage discussion of every topic from the point of view faith: specifically Christian faith.

That said, I note from CCU's website that they are accredited - unlike, say, Bob Jones University, which doesn't pretend to have academic freedom. In his presidential statement, Armstrong says that: "In the classroom students are learning to think for themselves, to ponder and interact with today’s ideas and theories."

Not knowing the full context, I will withhold judgment. Let me just say that faith seems to me, of all the soul's attributes, the least likely to develop in an environment where intellectual vitality is not allowed full and vigorous expression.

"Or you could point to the same professors lack of original research (which he was supposed to be doing being on tenure-track)as the main factor if his tenure denial."

That is the University's "official" reason, even though Prof. Gonzalez's work was published in 68 peer-reviewed journals. There is simply no compelling, consistent reason for the denial of tenure in this case aside from his views on ID.

To my mind, there's just too much we don't know to draw any conclusions either way. In particular we don't know what Prof. Paquin told his students about Singer or Wallis in class. And without that, I don't feel comfortable making any judgements either way.

As for Balmer's closing comment -- "Trust me Bill, you qualify" -- it's comforting to know I'm not the only smart-aleck on this board.

Wolverine

Evangelical Christianity should stop looking to the secular world for its approval.

If CCU wants to promulgate a certain set of beliefs, let it. But CCU shouldn't seek out accreditation from secular organizations. It shouldn't seek to have its courses accepted for credit by other institutions. (I place myself directly at risk here, because my CCU credits would have to be repeated at NCSU for me to graduate this spring!)

If the Religious Right wants people to act morally, they ought to clean house and institute some more church discipline.

If the Religious Left wants to work for social justice they should abandon their building campaigns and other programs and put all their resources to work.

Christians ought not seek the world's approval or sanction of their activity. Nor ought they to attempt to make others live according to their creeds. They ought not to seek the participation of the world if it has not accepted the call of Christ. This means no more anti-gay laws for the conservatives, and no more welfare programs for the liberals.

No more patronization.

Nathanael Snow

That is the University's "official" reason, even though Prof. Gonzalez's work was published in 68 peer-reviewed journals. There is simply no compelling, consistent reason for the denial of tenure in this case aside from his views on ID.

1) It's not his total publication record, it his publications since joining the University in a tenure-track position

AND

2)Having those recent publications be original research and not a continuation of his post-doc work with colleagues from other universities.

He failed both those criteria. All the time he could've been fulfilling those criteria, he spent writing a religious book. No wonder he was denied tenure.

"At a real University, you can study anything and everything."
Once again, ask the former president of Harvard about that. All he did was attempt to open academic discussion on how to better educate women in the hard sciences.

I attended a secular (or as someone else said, "real") college and found much less academic freedom. There was lots of intimidation used to limit discussion that didn't fit the professors' viewpoint. I didn't know academic freedom until I switched to a Christian University that allowed us to take the gloves off in class and really go at it with each other and with the profs.
Jeff

I attended a secular (or as someone else said, "real") college and found much less academic freedom.

translation: I wasn't allowed to use Answers in Genesis as a primary source in my evolution class.

"1) It's not his total publication record, it his publications since joining the University in a tenure-track position"

That isn't true. Either way, he cleared the bar.

"He failed both those criteria. All the time he could've been fulfilling those criteria, he spent writing a religious book. No wonder he was denied tenure."

It was not at all a religious book. It was scientific research advancing a theory that can be interpreted as religious or not.

Aaron,
Where are you getting this evidence that he didn't author original research since joining ISU? He claimed to have published 25 papers since joining ISU (15 was the minimum for granting tenure): http://www.midiowanews.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=18333457&BRD=2700&PAG=461&dept_id=554432&rfi=6

I also think the Larry Summers Harvard fiasco to be a telling tale about the poor state of academic freedom in secular universities.

Perhaps the problem was there was no balance in the classroom ?

That isn't true. Either way, he cleared the bar.

Wrong on both accounts, you HAVE to show original research initiative and publish to support it, he did neither while on tenure track. Which aspects of that don't you understand?

Let's not forget grants:

The Des Moines Register reported Thursday that university records showed that Gonzalez had raised significantly less research and grant money than his peers in the Department of Physics and Astronomy.

Iowa State has sponsored $22,661 in outside grant money for Gonzalez since July 2001, records show. In that same time period, Gonzalez’s peers in physics and astronomy secured an average of $1.3 million by the time they were granted tenure.


It was not at all a religious book. It was scientific research advancing a theory that can be interpreted as religious or not.

Which is why it wasn't submitted to scientists for peer-review, it being *snicker* advancing a "scientific theory" and all. And you must be the only person who doesn't understand the whole ID as science concept is smoke and mirrors.

I said,
"I attended a secular (or as someone else said, "real") college and found much less academic freedom."

Aaron said
"translation: I wasn't allowed to use Answers in Genesis as a primary source in my evolution class."

Wow Aaron, that's mean. That is not at all what I meant. Your mind reading skills are a way off.

Jeff

You're right Jeff, that was mean, I apologize.

I come from a science background and just took the bare minimum of liberal arts classes, so I don't have much experience in a classroom that doesn't have concrete right/wrong answers.

Posted by: justintime | August 15, 2007 4:56 PM

Armstrong and his ilk are the reason why wise parents don't send their kids to private Christian Universities.

Well - my son attends a private Christian University because the state run schools do not offer a degree in Youth Ministries and Theological Studies. Wallis was asked to come and speak at this university - so I don't think that he would agree with you. My son also got a copy of his book and after he read it - it became a door stop in his apt.

Have a great one...
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Hello all.

I recently graduated from Colorado Christian University in May 2007. After 3 hard years dealing with Student Life and the likes thereof, I am still divided in my opinions of CCU. Allow me to explain.

You see, all of you that claim that you can't have academic freedom at a Christian university are wrong. Dead, 100% wrong. I graduated with a BA in Theology at CCU and I will tell you that I have never seen a better "religions" faculty or department at a secular OR Christian school than the one at CCU. Dr. Jeffrey Mallinson leads the charge impeccably, striving to maintain an academic environment in his department of Theology and succeeding in doing so. We have incredibly talented professors in these successful departments often under fire from other people in the community or on the campus that do not agree with them. But don't EVER say that they are not promoting academic freedom.

I champion certain departments at CCU like I would champion Johns Hopkins for their medical program. We may not be as renowned for these programs, but the professors in these programs and departments are among the most intellectual, most challenging, most academically rigorous professors you will meet at ANY type of school. These departments include Theology (which encompasses Biblical Studies, Philosophy and Youth Ministry, as well as any ancient languages) Psychology, English, History, Global Studies (that is, until Paquin, who recently changed his name to Syed, was let go.) Please do not comment on the academic freedom or nature of this school without recognizing that the administration in the spotlight does not stand for everything.

I have spoken with President Armstrong a number of times, and he seeks to make the university a more academically rigorous place. I agree with him on a few of his objectives (not the "strategic objectives," mind you,) such as the strengthening of the tutoring program, the overhaul of student study habits and learning habits, making sure that students in this school are known for their academia and not for the fact that they barely should have graduated high school. How does he plan to do this after firing Paquin and watching countless other prized professors leave at the idea of potentially being the next on the list? I have no idea...I don't trust that plan of action, either. He let go one of the most incredible professors that CCU had on campus and it is just plain unfortunate that he has neglected to see what prizes he has at that university. You see, our professors do not enjoy tenure...they have to watch their steps and not be quick to criticize student learning habits because they have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed. Think about all of the background before you comment on academic freedom.

I had my first and only class with Professor Paquin/Syed in my last semester at CCU and I am privileged to say that I know him and enjoy a friendship with him. He is an incredible man of God and one that desires for students to reach deep inside themselves and LEARN. Whatever their opinions may be, he entertains them in class and challenges them to go further. He stretches our students and forces them to think in ways that their youth groups didn't let them think. He challenges them to own their faith and their religious beliefs and to know WHY, and to own their view of the world, politics and our nationi in the same way.

You may believe that I have simply been brainwashed by this university to say anything good about it...*chuckles.* You would be wrong. I hated that university while I was there, but I stayed for a reason. I stayed because the department I was in was phenomenal and I wouldn't trade my education at CCU for anything in the world. Because of my impeccable education at this university, I was accepted to the highest honors program at the graduate school I applied to: the Master's of Philosophy at the University of Exeter to study Historical Theology with a concentration on Heresiology in the Reformation Period. I achieved this honor because I went to this university, had professors like the ones in our Theology, Psychology, Languages and Global Studies departments, who showed me that my world is so much bigger than just what I see around me...that my opportunities are as numerous as I am able to conceive of...and most importantly, that my duty to give back to humanity is tremendously important and significant because of this gift I have been given in this education and in these people.

So please...please do not think that the firing of such a stellar professor speaks of the lack of academic freedom at any and all Christian universities. It is unbelievable and it outrages me that such an incredibly brilliant man was let go for not being "capitalist" enough when Christ taught that we should care for "the least of these," (which is hardly what capitalism praises, by the way.) However, do not direct your anger, cynicism, bitterness and resignation at the Christian community or even at CCU as a whole. Direct it at CCU's administration...at the board, at the president, at the people in charge of making decisions at that school. And never, ever stop championing academic freedom in such environments.

Also, to the person that claims that wise parents should not and do not send their children to Christian universities...

...wise parents are also wise enough to question all aspects of a situation before lumping it into a general category and assuming that they know what goes on behind the scenes and in the classroom. Are the parents who sent their children to CU-Boulder wise, because their children were in a classroom with a professor who was trusted with great influence on his students and used that influence to say that the victims of the 9/11 attacks were comparable to Nazis?

Think a little.

I'm open to any questions about CCU that anyone has. I feel like I know it well enough in its current state to answer.

Kevin says:

"If Balmer disagrees with the firing, that is fine. Let's have a discussion about it. But he should at least discuss the article he cites honestly, as opposed to pretending that the school teaches the gospel of capitalism."


Kevin,

I went to the school. That's exactly what they are trying to implement.

Also in the strategic objectives that President Armstrong is trying to implement into the school is 'the promotion of Western civilization.'

I confronted Mr. Armstrong on such a subject and he said that while Rome was not without its problems (like every civilization,) it was definitely the best model for us as Americans and it's one that, as Christians, we should be championing and teaching others to champion as well.

Academic freedom is this:

I asked President Armstrong whether he wanted to champion Nero's Rome, Constantine's Rome or Caesar Augustus' Rome...or if he was aware that the Romans regularly sat around and tried to think of different ways to torture people and if that was in line with what Christ has taught us.

I should clarify also: we are academically free in many of our classrooms...but citing where that academic freedom exists would mean that the freedom has the potential to be lost. It's academically free...as long as we don't mention we have the freedom or where it's at. But to me and to many of my peers who have gone on to very highly renowned graduate schools, it was an academically rigorous and challenging place.

And finally, just because I keep finding things that bug me...

maybe some of YOU don't know what happened in Professor Paquin/Syed's classes, but _I_ do...as a student in them. That man hardly spoke his own opinion and instead challenged the rest of us to do battle with each other...to debate the issues without getting mean (where he would intervene) and to wrestle with ourselves. He taught the basics of global economies and politics and asked questions about tough issues without promoting any particular theory. He said nothing out of line that I have not heard many times before in my education. He challenged viewpoints with things we had never thought of and encouraged us to think about them while maintaining professionalism and neutrality. His classroom was a SAFE place for students to speak their opinions...a kind of place that is becoming rarer on that campus with the current administration.

Shoot, most of the class I was in required us to go through God's Politics, get into groups and discuss the chapters. We didn't have to like them, we didn't have to dislike them and he remained neutral, waiting to hear our own opinions, which were often very divided. Students were in charge of the discussion and I learned much more in that class than it's being given credit for.

You see, our professors do not enjoy tenure...they have to watch their steps and not be quick to criticize student learning habits because they have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed. Think about all of the background before you comment on academic freedom.

Danielle - Thanks for your thoughtful insider's comments. You're right that academic rigor, excellence, and openness are often found in many otherwise less-than-ideal situations, usually thanks to good teachers. But the issue this story raises is about a professor's academic freedom--not so much a student's--and this is defined primarily by the existence of tenure. W/o tenure, professors are potentially muzzled, for exactly the reasons you describe.

"I confronted Mr. Armstrong on such a subject and he said that while Rome was not without its problems (like every civilization,) it was definitely the best model for us as Americans and it's one that, as Christians, we should be championing and teaching others to champion as well."

Danielle,

Thank you for your thoughts in general. The above quote isn't the same as promoting a gospel of capitalism. Some Christians believe that we must promote pacifism. That isn't the same as promoting a gospel of pacifism.

That said, I would be interested in hearing why he was fired, and how he treated Singer's texts in the classroom. I also understand that Christian Colleges can be a mixed bag with respect to balancing faith and academics. Does the school have a tradition of firing professors for this reason.

Steve,

I completely understand and agree with what you mean.

What I am saying is that I HATE the idea that because I come from a Christian university, i MUST be brainwashed. Do you know how damaging that is to my future education, to my career, to my future networking? Many could say that I just shouldn't have gone there, but the education that I was afforded was incredible and could not be matched elsewhere. It's just unfortunate that ignorant people continue to REMAIN ignorant instead of thinking that perhaps the situation is different than they think.

The professors don't have real freedom, I'll grant you that. But no one should take that and make it something where students are not properly educated at that school. My diploma says that I graduated from Colorado Christian University, and it will say the same thing as another student who was brainwashed...but because that unfortunate stereotype continues to be perpetuated, my diploma is worth less and less when the education I was given is qualified to be worth so much more.

Kevin,

I understand your position, but as an insider, I promise you that our professors are now being put through a screening process before they are hired...they are not allowed to believe in theistic evolution or socialism...they must believe what the university wants and from there, diversity goes out the window. It's a short step up from 'promotion' to 'gospel' with this situation.

The university does, indeed, have a history of firing professors held very dear by the students in the past. In the 3 years that I studied there, they let go 4 professors that I personally knew and loved. Before that, there were at least 3 more the previous year. 3 others have left because they feared for their jobs. Countless others are staying quiet because they have bills to pay. Many of those are at risk of being taken out, should someone have a mood change.

As a matter of fact, even in the staff departments for the inner workings of this university, many people are leaving because of the new environment that CCU is walking right into.

Like I said before...this displays a lack of academic freedom for the professors, but please understand that not all students/products of Christian universities are indoctrinated or brainwashed.

I just realized that the numbers I posted don't mean much if you don't understand that CCU is a small school...less than 1,000 undergrads. 7 teachers in 3 years is a huge blow.

"Armstrong and his ilk are the reason why wise parents don't send their kids to private Christian Universities."

Wise parents send their kids to Pomona College.

"Wrong on both accounts, you HAVE to show original research initiative and publish to support it, he did neither while on tenure track. Which aspects of that don't you understand?"

He published 21 articles, clearing the bar of 15, while (again) writing materials used in their own courses.

"Which is why it wasn't submitted to scientists for peer-review, it being *snicker* advancing a "scientific theory" and all. And you must be the only person who doesn't understand the whole ID as science concept is smoke and mirrors."

I disagree. First of all, anyone who believes in God (and I know that you do not) believes that there is an intelligent designer. As such, any intellectually consistent theistic scientist ought to be interested in unraveling how the universe may have been created intelligently.

Your point that ID is automatically invalid as scientific theory, and research done regarding ID is automatically dismissable only augments my point regarding the lack of academic freedom in secular schools.

Danielle,

Thanks for your input. CCU has been through the wringer over the last decade, and it appears it isn't over.

Is there still goose poop everywhere? Can you walk across the pond at all in winter?
Is T.K. Murphy still around?

In regards to capitalism:

Unregenerate humans are self-interested. Capitalism attempts to channel this aspect of human nature most productively by offering compelling incentives for action.

Christians can overcome self-interest by responding to the call of Christ and obeying His commands.

The response to Christ does not guarantee positive social or personal outcomes! Rather, we are promised persecution and trials, in short the cross of Christ, for our decision.

The enemy of both systems is power, or the use of force. The use of force removes the restraint on self-interest which permits individuals from realizing mutual gains from exchange. The use of force likewise corrupts the message of the cross.

Christians ought to work first to eliminate force from their own habits. Second they should work to protect the victims of the use of force. Third they ought to work to restrain the use of force.

Only Christians are capable of acting out of conscious virtue in imitation of Christ in the renunciation of, protection from, and resistance of force unselfishly. In other words, most people can take care of themselves fine so long as they allowed to defend themselves and care for themselves out of self interest. But for the defenseless and incapable God has provided the Church as a means for overcoming this world.

Capitalism works up to a point, but it neglects the least of these. It does tend to raise the welfare of all participants albeit disproportionately. Christianity has as its unique mandate to care for those who are stuck outside of the Capitalist system.

Nathanael Snow

Danielle,

Thanks for the inside look at CCU and your commentary on academic freedom.

I don't think that all private religious schools are second rate, but many are.
Some Christian Universities have dangerous agenda, such as Pat Robertson's Regent University, which has graduated a cohort of dominionist lawyers, some of whom are now testifying before Congress about Alberto Gonzales' corrupted Justice Department.
I don't think that all graduates of Christian Universities are second rate, either.
Congratulations to you for being accepted by the Philosophy Department at Exeter University.

In every educational environment you will find some outstanding teachers and some outstanding students.

It's the job of every manager (in this case Bill Armstrong) to provide and maintain an environment that will allow staff to perform at their very best.

CCU alums should speak out about the damage Bill Armstrong is doing to the quality of the educational environment at CCU and CCU's academic reputation.

Sounds like he needs to be replaced.


He published 21 articles, clearing the bar of 15, while (again) writing materials used in their own courses.

You just don't get it. How many of those were he first author, how many were co-authored with either his post-doc buddies from Washington or his previous doctoral advisor(s)? How many were original research not related to his previous work? How many were tied to major grant funding initiated research for ISU? 15 isn't some automatic number where you collect $200 and pass go.

I disagree.

Noted.

First of all, anyone who believes in God (and I know that you do not) believes that there is an intelligent designer. As such, any intellectually consistent theistic scientist ought to be interested in unraveling how the universe may have been created intelligently.

Sure, or you can just believe God works in mysterious ways. Not a very parsimonious position from which to begin the investigation, but I digress...

Your point that ID is automatically invalid as scientific theory,

Well, since nobody has actually published or proposed what could properly be defined as "scientific theory", sure they have some guesses, Behe and IC, Dembski and CSI, but they even know it's not a theory. The Discovery Institute itself knows that and has said as much. So I have a valid point that it is NOT a scientific theory.

and research done regarding ID is automatically dismissable

Until they do publish and submit to peer-review it IS dismissable, much like I can dismiss most herbal claims as they have not gone through peer-review.

only augments my point regarding the lack of academic freedom in secular schools.

Your point is further diminished.

"15 isn't some automatic number where you collect $200 and pass go."

It is if you aren't Gonzalez, by and large. I know what the talking points are, but any way you slice his accomplishments, there is simply no way anyone else is denied tenure for having accomplished what he accomplished.

"So I have a valid point that it is NOT a scientific theory"

I think you know well what I mean, which is that any effort to elevate the legitimacy of ID is automatically dismissed.

"Until they do publish and submit to peer-review it IS dismissable,"

You back over yourself here. Is submission for peer review important or no? Or is it important only up to the point it benefits Gonzalez, and not at any other point? Which argument are you making here?

For the record, there is no real theory as to how the universe began. The big bang theory takes us from a certain point, but what began it all? Research into the origins of all existence ought to be legitimate, and Darwin does nothing to get us there.

At any rate, just as Christian colleges expel ideas that run contrary to biblical truth, so secular schools expel ideas that are consonant with biblical truth. As such, secular schools teach that which is false.


Kevin, Do they teach evolution at Pomona College?

"Kevin, Do they teach evolution at Pomona College?"

No. They don't teach that Christ is Lord either. So what?

Nathanael,

The goose poop is still there, they took out the pond for landscaping purposes and I don't know who Murphy is.

I agree with your last paragraph, but I cannot agree that only Christians can enact the virtues that Christ holds for his church. I have seen many a non-Christian do it much better than i.

also, to the person who thinks that the alumni should speak out against Armstrong: we have...there are still many financial tanks willing to pour money into the way he runs things.

Kevin:

"For the record, there is no real theory as to how the universe began."
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I've heard a thousand myths about the origin of the universe, including the one in the Book of Genesis.
Speculating on the ORIGIN of the universe falls within the realms of astrophysics, metaphysics and theology.
But for some folks, it's a matter of faith.

Anyone is free to advance a theory on the origin of the universe, but it would have to be verifiable by scientific methods for the scientific community to give it serious attention.

Actually I have seen some theories on the origin of the universe that do receive serious attention from the scientific community.

But the Book of Genesis myth is not verifiable by the scientific method.
Have the Intelligent Designers advanced a theory, for the origin of the universe, other than the myth in Genesis?

I believe the universe always was.
What about you?

For those of you questioning the release of a professor with only a masters degree, may I remind you that the president of CCU himself does not have a degree. He leans on his political experience and "honorary doctorates." And given the global experience of Professor Paquin/Syed with the 10/10 project, Armstrong has little, if at all, any leverage with respect to academic experience. My graduation from CCU in '05 gives me a higher education than the president of the institution in which I am an alum.

In my opinion, the key to this situation is that CCU was recently denied funds by the federal court provided by the state to students who stay in state to pursue a college degree. The court ruled CCU is "pervasively sectarian." More so now than ever. And if CCU is to have any hope of receiving this money, they are running in the wrong direction. In fact, CCU's strategic objective of free enterprise has dropped them on a double edged sword. A good portion of CCU' monetary donations come from people whom most would label religious conservatives. So when a professor "seems" to be teaching something other than donor's beliefs, the school falls under pressure and has chosen to quiet the noise by ridding the school of intelligent professors. The product of this, as I said above, is rejected state funds most private Christian schools wouldn't have a chance at anyway, let alone schools with the mentality of the current administration of CCU.

Danielle:

"also, to the person who thinks that the alumni should speak out against Armstrong: we have...there are still many financial tanks willing to pour money into the way he runs things."

Keep pushing for academic freedom and excellence in education!
What are the financial tanks willing to put money behind Armstrong's vision?
What does the Board of Directors (Trustees) think about Armstrong's vision?

So sad to watch an institution slide into mediocrity.
You have my sympathies.

It is if you aren't Gonzalez, by and large.

Ok, if YOU say so.

I know what the talking points are, but any way you slice his accomplishments, there is simply no way anyone else is denied tenure for having accomplished what he accomplished.

Many qualified people are passed for tenure. Gonzalez failed to engage in and find funding for research, and ISU being a research university, this tends to be a big thing. I know you know what the talking points are as you cannot deviate from them without easily losing the argument.

I think you know well what I mean, which is that any effort to elevate the legitimacy of ID is automatically dismissed.

That's the claim that hasn't been established.


You back over yourself here.

No, just your typical lack of reading comprehension and desire to argue with what you want the person to have said rather than what they actually said.

Is submission for peer review important or no?

Yes, which is where the ID'sts fail, as they seem to not even submit (with a few teeny tiny exceptions) manuscripts to academic journals, but they have plenty of time to write quacked out books, go on church speaking tours, or spend their tenure track time writing books to a non-literate public about misrepresentations of science they'll never understand.


I mean, you're tooting Gonzalez's horn here and his publications. Why is his ID "research" never submitted to the same peers the other much touted papers are?

Or is it important only up to the point it benefits Gonzalez, and not at any other point? Which argument are you making here?

You seem to be under the mistaken notion that:

1) I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too
2) All publications are equal
3) That 15 is some magical admittance number, when it's merely a "we'll consider your application now" minimum
4) That there is some conspiracy to keep IDists from publishing (hint they don't even submit, so how can they be rejected?)
5) Failure to initiate and publish work independent of past associates does not factor into the tenure process (strange for one who usually applauds the entrepreneurial spirit)
6) Failure to get significant grant funding at a research university does not factor into the tenure process

For the record, there is no real theory as to how the universe began.

And that has what to do with ID's pseudoscience?

The big bang theory takes us from a certain point, but what began it all?

Good question, anyone who claims to know the answer is a certified nut.

Research into the origins of all existence ought to be legitimate, and Darwin does nothing to get us there.

Well I wouldn't think so either, as Darwin was about how species change in time, not sure why you're invoking him here.

At any rate, just as Christian colleges expel ideas that run contrary to biblical truth, so secular schools expel ideas that are consonant with biblical truth. As such, secular schools teach that which is false.

Ah, I see, you are a certified nut.

"Speculating on the ORIGIN of the universe falls within the realms of astrophysics, metaphysics and theology."

Why? Do you reject the notion that God designed the universe? What else in the Bible is myth?

"Anyone is free to advance a theory on the origin of the universe, but it would have to be verifiable by scientific methods for the scientific community to give it serious attention."

But if trying to prove the existence of an intelligent designer is out of bounds, then, for Christians, the scientific community is incapable of discovering the truth.

"Have the Intelligent Designers advanced a theory, for the origin of the universe, other than the myth in Genesis?"

ID has nothing to do with the Genesis account of creation, which isn't to say that they aren't compatible. For the record, and I think you know this and are hoping to start an argument, I do not consider the Genesis account of creation to be a myth.

"I believe the universe always was."

I believe that God always has been. Will you concede that either phenomena has yet to be adequately explained by science, which has yet to find a way to account for the concept of eternal history?

Danielle,

Just to clarify:
I was careful to qualify my statement by stating that only Christians can act consciously and unselfishly at the same time. I ought to add to this rationally.

No individual has a rational explanation for acting unselfishly, unless they are hoping for some future benefit, in which case they are again acting selfishly.

The uniqueness of the Christian Ethic is that we have already been promised our reward. It is unconditional. So acting unselfishly now is done purely in imitation of Christ, and remains peculiarly rational.

No unregenerate individual can make the same claim and no other religion I know of makes this claim either.

Nathanael Snow

The Trustees of Colorado Christian University should read this comment from Another nonymous and give it their serious consideration.
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"Let me just say that faith seems to me, of all the soul's attributes, the least likely to develop in an environment where intellectual vitality is not allowed full and vigorous expression."
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And then start looking for the right man to fill the vacancy left by Bill Armstrong.

Errata: Please substitute 'the right person' for 'the right man'.

It has been fascinating - and I admit - a bit self-indulgent to not only read the story in the Rocky Mountain News regarding my situation at Colorado Christian University, but to watch the internet chatter that it has produced. In the past 72 hours, I've gotten calls from Christianity Today, the Peter Boyles Show, and a caring Pastor in Longmont, CO. I've seen my name on both the Sojourners and Relevant Magazine web-site. My kids think I'm famous and wonder if I am by default therefore rich. My wife - she knows better. She's not impressed.

There are a few things I'd like to clear up in the chatter. First of all, I was a full-time Assistant Professor of Global Studies at CCU. Not part-time, not adjunct. I was fully a part of the faculty community at CCU. I was voted Faculty of the Year in 2005 - 2006, promoted, celebrated and marketed as a vital part of the future of CCU.

Second, I do lack a PhD in my field, which a few bloggers have enjoyed referring to. No one has been more aware of this than me. That being said, in addition to years of field experience, I do have an MA in International Development and Human Rights from the University of Denver Graduate School of International Studies. Check for yourself where GSIS ranks in the nation in this field. Make sure you check near the top - because that's where you'll find it, right around Harvard, Stanford and Johns Hopkins. Go DU!

Third, what has been interesting to me throughout this process is that my specialty in academia is not political economy. This is taught by others at CCU - not me. My focus and discipline is International Development. Obviously, at a small school, Professors are asked to teach a wider breadth of subjects than what they might otherwise do at a larger institution. This was certainly true with me, as over a period of two years I taught 9 different courses.

My stance on capitalism is this... it is obviously a very efficient and pragmatic economic system that has produced the largest and wealthiest country the world has ever seen. It also can be exploitative, lead to human greed, and leave vast populations behind in its wake. It can turn citizens into consumers. Adam Smith writes that the common good is served by the individual pursuit of self-interest. Excuse me if I believe that the pursuit of my own self-interest might be in contrast to the life of Christ that exemplifies the pursuit of the interest of others. This is my tension. I have a house, two kids, two cars -- the American Dream. I also work in the slums of Africa, trying desperately to generate markets and enterprise so that people do not have to be mired in stupid poverty. If and when capitalism works - I'm all for it. But the tenets of my faith are bigger than the political economy of the West.

Let me say it this way. In Christ, you and I are set free, not for the individual pursuit of happiness, but set free for the collective pursuit of holiness. We are called by God not for ourselves, but for the glory of His Kingdom, and for the service of others. We, the fortunate ones of this great country have somehow forgotten that it is impossible to serve others while at the same time believing we are better than the others we are called to serve. Selfishness, greed, gluttony - these are epidemic in our culture. These might be the real threats to our way of life, but because they stare at us in the mirror, we are reluctant to say so. Instead, we write off the prophets among us as "liberal", "radical", or even "anti-American." I can hear Amos. Can you?

I am as perplexed as any as to why the use of Jim Wallis in class was a problem. I can understand the misgivings, though, with Peter Singer. The book I used of his is entitled ONE WORLD - THE ETHICS OF GLOBALIZATION. I do not agree with everything the book has to offer. I do believe, though, that Singer offers some very interesting things to think about in the realm of ethics, responsibility, and the global community. Read it. There are things in there that might challenge us all to recognize both the fallacies of our own nationalism and the consequences of inaction (or wrong action) on the global stage. Peter Singer might have something to say to the Christian community.

These details aside, Colorado Christian was a University. But now, it is a place where students are told "what to think." This is President Armstrong's written definition of the teaching profession. Teaching is "telling students what to think." I disagree. And I am saddened, because I love CCU, my former colleagues and students, and even have respect for President Armstrong and his achievements in his life. I just believe he is wrong for dismissing me based on the grounds mentioned. I don't have a PhD - I'm young in the academic profession, but none of these were ever mentioned as reasons for my dismissal. No, it was pure political (poorly disguised by religious) ideology. I am not perfect. I have a lot to learn. I wrestle with these issues daily. But this was wrong, both in decision and process.

By the way, I will not end this without a plug for The 10/10 Project. In 4 years, we've partnered with our African friends in creating almost 300 businesses that provide income for families that were previously living on just $1 per day. Check it out - get involved - and remember that poverty and justice matter to all of us.

www.the1010project.org
www.andrewsyed.blogspot.com

Proverbs 31:8-9

"Ok, if YOU say so."

You first made the case the Gonzalez doesn't get credit for articles prior to ISU. I noted that he meets the criteria either way. You then shifted gears. Even if I cede your argument, he meets the criterion in letter, and blows the criterion out of the water in spirit.

Incidentally, the department's tenure policy has says this about published work:

"For promotion to associate professor, excellence sufficient to lead to a national or international reputation is required and would ordinarily be shown by the publication of approximately fifteen papers of good quality in refereed journals."

Not only has Gonzalez appeared in refereed journals, he has served as the referee himself.

Gonzalez's peers concede that his embrace of intelligent design influenced their decision. Gonzalez was the victim of an overzealous religious studies prof. (whose own ideas would classify him as a nut much moreso than mine). There is simply no way that Gonzalez is one of the very few to be denied tenure if he doesn't embrace ID.

You can argue whether that is fair, but that is the reason, and that does not constitue academic freedom in my view.

"You seem to be under the mistaken notion that:

1) I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too"

You are.

"2) All publications are equal"

I have not made this argument.

"3) That 15 is some magical admittance number, when it's merely a "we'll consider your application now" minimum"

See above.

"4) That there is some conspiracy to keep IDists from publishing (hint they don't even submit, so how can they be rejected?)"

Publishing what? Gonzalez published plenty.

5) Failure to initiate and publish work independent of past associates does not factor into the tenure process (strange for one who usually applauds the entrepreneurial spirit)

Where so you see that Gonzalez has failed to initiate and publish work? He has consistently done so. I have plenty of criticisms of the tenure process as they relate to the entrepreneurial spirit, but that is not what this is about.

6) Failure to get significant grant funding at a research university does not factor into the tenure process"

This is all you have to stand on, but it is not an expressly stated reason, and many who had not received grant funding were granted tenure. It factors is for political reasons, and Gonzalez was certainly denied tenure for political reasons, but not for this one.

"And that has what to do with ID's pseudoscience?"

That it is one means of attempting to explain what has yet to be explained. I disagree that ID consitutes pseudoscience.

"Well I wouldn't think so either, as Darwin was about how species change in time, not sure why you're invoking him here."

Simply to illustrate how far scientific theory is from explaining how the universe began. Further, you cannot deny that much of the anti-ID fervor is based on the fact that it runs afoul of evolutionary theory.

"Ah, I see, you are a certified nut."

You find all Christians to be nuts, or at least those who believe the Bible to be literally true in any substantive way.

Straight from the horse's mouth...can't get any more direct than that.

I agree with Mike M...probably because I am very good friends with him. But the university really is going at this in entirely the wrong direction.

Justintime:

The Board of Trustees elected Senator Armstrong who, in agreement with Mike M, lacks any form of a college degree and seems to have no problem with the conflict of his non-degree and running a UNIVERSITY. The Board of Trustees had a trustee member on it who just happened to be Senator Armstrong's wife...but to 'eliminate a conflict of interests,' she stepped down (I'm sure that resolved said conflict.)

Point being--the board elected him to make money for the school. He's doing just that. Unfortunately, most members on the board are so conservative that they put forth and were mulling over the idea of mandating chapel to the point that if students did not go regularly, they would be fined, put on academic probation and potentially not graduate (we are already fined nicely for not attending.) These people on the board are also very conservative--religiously and politically. They want to make money for the school...to "put it on the map" as they are fond of saying. In doing so, they are making themselves MORE "pervasively sectarian" by eliminating prized professors from different ends of the educational and opinionated spectrum. It's been an issue for CCU for some time now that many churches will not send their youth group students here or advise them to come here because we are not conservative enough. CCU has "too many liberal professors that don't believe in six-day creation," they say. Cue Armstrong: weeds out the "bad apples" and brings in money from more youth groups to "put CCU on the map."

I'm not sure what map it is that the trustees seem to want to see CCU on...but the only map it's going on for many is that of ultra-conservative, mindless Christian schools.

Professor Paquin/Syed made a good point: Colorado Christian USED TO BE a university. Now, academic freedom is limited freedom (paradoxically,) and is available to those who desire it and thrive on it from impeccable professors...but it is also becoming a breeding ground for the anti-intellectual.

Professor Paquin,

Thank you for your comments. It sounds as though you were treated unfairly. I am sorry to hear that.

"The Board of Trustees elected Senator Armstrong who, in agreement with Mike M, lacks any form of a college degree and seems to have no problem with the conflict of his non-degree and running a UNIVERSITY."

Ugh. I didn't know that. To the extent that I defended the College's actions here, I retract my defense.

Kevin: "But if trying to prove the existence of an intelligent designer is out of bounds, then, for Christians, the scientific community is incapable of discovering the truth."
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Could you run that by me again, Kevin?
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Kevin: "For the record, and I think you know this and are hoping to start an argument, I do not consider the Genesis account of creation to be a myth."
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Do you think Genesis should be advanced as a theory for the origin of the universe - and be examined by science?
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justintime: "I believe the universe always was."
kevin: "I believe that God always has been."
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Can we agree so far, Kevin?
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Then you say: "Will you concede that either phenomena has yet to be adequately explained by science, which has yet to find a way to account for the concept of eternal history?"
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What's the logical punch line on this line of reasoning, Kevin?

"Could you run that by me again, Kevin?"

I am beginning with the assumption, as a Christian, that the universe was designed by God. As such, any scientific inquiry that rejects the idea of an intelligent designer out of hand cannot result in truth. If it can, then I have faith in a non-existent God.

"Do you think Genesis should be advanced as a theory for the origin of the universe - and be examined by science? "

Absolutely.

"What's the logical punch line on this line of reasoning, Kevin?"

Based on your previous posts, the line would be that science cannot explain God, but I would amend that to say that science has simply not explained that way God created the universe.

"Could you run that by me again, Kevin?"

I am beginning with the assumption, as a Christian, that the universe was designed by God. As such, any scientific inquiry that rejects the idea of an intelligent designer out of hand cannot result in truth. If it can, then I have faith in a non-existent God.

"Do you think Genesis should be advanced as a theory for the origin of the universe - and be examined by science? "

Absolutely.

"What's the logical punch line on this line of reasoning, Kevin?"

Based on your previous posts, the line would be that science cannot explain God, but I would amend that to say that science has simply not explained that way God created the universe.

Thanks to Professor Panquin for the courage and passion of a true teacher and for stating his position with clarity and eloquence.


Let me begin by saying that I wholeheartedly support Andrew Paquin's case. My statements in the Rocky Mountain News article demonstrates that: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/education/article/0,1299,DRMN_957_5670848,00.html

I, like Danielle, am an insider, both through my involvement with the 10/10 Project as well as the numerous classes I had with him. My opinion is that CCU’s dismissal of Andrew Paquin represents a travesty of everything a university should be; namely, a template for learning, dialogue, and the free exchange of ideas.

There is little I can add to the comments by Danielle and Andrew. I second the opinion that his classes were balanced, unobtrusive, and his endorsement of any idea or ideology was always qualified. In a nutshell, it was a mistake to dismiss Andrew Paquin.

But like Danielle I maintain that the fault here lies with the administration, and particularly President Armstrong. Those of you who have questioned the qualities of Christian universities should think twice. Through CCU, I spent two semester abroad studying at the University of Oxford, with around 75 other students from Christian colleges around the U.S. No, this program was not an extension of our Christian colleges. We were exposed, in full, to the life of a student at one of the world's finest universities. Our professors (they call them tutors), except in theology, were generally not religious, and they hardly fit the mold that many tend to lump Christian into. Our professors at Oxford were and are world-class scholars, on top of the academic world. Their books have won international prizes, they have edited prestigious journals like the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, and they have taken research and teaching fellowships at many of the world's leading universities. And do you know what they said about us "Christian college students?" That we are some of the most lively, intelligent, industrious, and free-thinking students they encounter at Oxford. And as a product of the questionable Colorado Christian University, I was told by two Oxford professors that I fell roughly on the border between an Oxford "First" and "Second." Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher were both Oxford "Seconds." The point is that CCU is not an institution that brainwashes students; rather, its fine professors are competently preparing students for successful work at the world's leading universities. Andrew Paquin was one of these fine professors. The problem lies with the administration.

What do I attribute this to? Like Danielle, I attribute this to professors which, despite their personal convictions, encourage their students to interact with the world and its ideas. Never once while at CCU did I feel my thinking was limited by anything. Having been raised to be politically and intellectually conservative, it was at CCU that I experienced by first faith crisis, my first crisis of belief (faith, politics, or otherwise), and at CCU that I largely worked out these crises. CCU has been, and can still be, a place where students are able to embrace higher learning and all it entails. Professors like Andrew Paquin make it possible; his dismissal does not sound the death knell of academic freedom at Christian colleges. It is important, however, that dynamic and engaging professors like him remain at CCU.

And if Christian colleges do not foster this academic freedom, how do you explain the success of Christian college students when they go on to "real" universities? My Christian college friends that attended the Oxford program with me are making their way to some of the finest institutions in the world, three of which were awarded nice fellowships to attend Yale.

As for me, a 2007 graduate of CCU, I was awarded the John K. Rice Fellowship to the Ph.D program at the University of Colorado at Boulder. This is their top fellowship for historians of British history. Is Andrew Paquin's firing a travesty? Yes. Does it mean that Christian colleges cannot be respectable places of learning? No. With enough effort of concerned people like yourselves, we can "put them back on the map."

kevin,

you obviously have some reading comprehension issues, it would be a waste of time to reiterate the same points you consistently fail to "get". I understand you don't have experience in a university science department, it's simple as that.

"Do you think Genesis should be advanced as a theory for the origin of the universe - and be examined by science? "

Absolutely.

It was examined starting about 200 years ago, and found severely lacking in supporting evidence.

And this doesn't sound similar to "profs" getting booted from secular schools for NOT worshipping at the feet of Charles Darwin's little insanity gone mainstream?

And come one now, Jin Wallis is absolutely a socialist.

Ala Chavez?

Where Leftists go, freedom gets extinquished.

Deal with the truth my little commie neighbors.

If anyone actually wants to help Paquin and preserve academic integrity in the face of ---- here is a link to sign a petition started by a student of CCU.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/AndrewPaquinatCCU/

" I understand you don't have experience in a university science department, it's simple as that."

Ah, so why did you even bother engaging, if it was just going to end with an appeal to authority?

Please...everyone and anyone...sign that petition. Thus far, we've only had student and alum signatures, which carry weight, but not enough. If we have community members signing this petition...well, we may not get Professor Paquin/Syed back, but we will make some changes in this university.

The dismissal of Prof. Paquin gives Christian academics an opportunity. Let's not choose the path of arrogance blazed by Harvard faculty when dealing with their president who challeged feminist dogma.
Instead we must continue down the path of scholarship. Look for leaders and profs from Christian institutions to step forward.

Jeff

Danielle,

First let me apologies for my comment regarding indoctrination and brainwashing. I did not mean to imply that any particular person had been brainwashed or even that every Christian college and/or institution engaged in that behavior.

When I wrote that post, I was angry and spoke/posted hastily. I don't completely take back what I said, but I admit that it was way too general and lacked fairness. When we speak in anger, we often are (at least I am). So I apologize for the insult - I was out of line.

The reason for my anger is this - I'm an academic librarian and when I first came into the field, I did apply at some smaller Bible colleges and Christian institutions near family. I was appalled at the contract I would have had to sign. That contract would have muzzled me regarding what I would say, even off the clock. It also dictated what I could and could not believe, which really offended me. Interestingly enough, having been raised as a Baptist, I was always taught that only the wicked tries to prevent people from speaking out and that it was my duty as a Christian to speak out against tyranny - even within the Church.

In the end, I joined the library at a state-run, research institution. But as a librarian, I have become very alarmed over these last six years at the level of censorship that is happening before the students even see anything. (Many government documents that were freely available are no longer availalle to anyone - and this started happening BEFORE 9/11). And talking to some librarians at these Christian institutions, I know that there is pressure put on the librarians not to buy certain types of books. Like it or not, that does result in muzzling academic freedom. I feel it's dangerous because one of the easiest ways to manipulate people is to allow access that only supports a certain viewpoint of those in charge. It's what dictatorships do - book burning is very popular and it happens at both extremes.

Re: evolution v. creationism or ID. As a librarian, I want materials covering both aspects. My job is not to say what is true, but to provide access to both points of view, regardless of my personal feelings. Which also means buying Ann Coulter AND Jim Wallis. The discussion as to the scientific validity has to happen within the discipline.

Ah, so why did you even bother engaging, if it was just going to end with an appeal to authority?

because appeals to authority (Thy Will be done Lord) are what christians understadn best? That,and facts of the matter did not persuade (not sure if it's intentional, or stems from the lack of reading comprehension skills), tinfoil hat conspiracies are preferred.

If you agree with this statement...

"With his practical and experiential knowledge in the non-profit sector, as well as his relentless passion for empowering the poor and marginalized, Professor Andrew Paquin should remain an asset to the Global Studies Department of Colorado Christian University."

...please sign the petition at:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/AndrewPaquinatCCU/

I did.

"because appeals to authority (Thy Will be done Lord) are what christians understadn best?"

Touche.

It's not conspiracy theory. There was a petition drive targetting Gonzalez. If his work was so trifling that his tenure candidacy had no legitimacy, why bother with the petition? At which university do you teach, may I ask?

Please...everyone and anyone...sign that petition.

Not going to sign. This is a private institution and they have the right to assemble their faculty as they see fit. It is not a state school with tax dollors - the student makes a choice wheather to go there or not.

Blessings -
.

It's not conspiracy theory. There was a petition drive targetting Gonzalez.

I'm not denying that, I'm saying the conspiracy is in believing the IDists are blacklisted, when they don't even attempt to submit their ID 'research" to the proper chaneels, so how would we know? (note: they do submit their mainstream research [i.e. all of Gonzalez's works SANS his ID stuff]to the proper channels, see the difference?)

If his work was so trifling that his tenure candidacy had no legitimacy, why bother with the petition?

His candidacy did have merit, in that he met the minimum qualifications to be CONSIDERED, but being considered is a far cry from meeting a minimum criteria and then automatically getting in, see the difference?

At which university do you teach, may I ask?

I don't but have considered going that route. I know enough (especially in a science departement, let alone a research geared one) that meeting a minimum standard is not a guarantee.

I'm not saying Gonzalez is stupid or anything like that, he's co-authored a respectable Astronomy text and has a good background, but I liken him to a talented stock broker, he makes his first company lots of millions, then he moves to a bigger firm with long-term career prospects, but suddenly his work output decreases dramatically and he is no longer bringing in the big bucks, and during this loss of performance, he spends time writing an economics book touting long-discredited economic theories under a new name. It would be no surprise if the company decides not to keep him after witnessing their prospect fizzle out.

I agree that academic freedom and censorship are issues worthy of discussion. However, I think we miss the point by debating whether it was just to fire this professor. For me, this is a prime example of how some religious conservatives mix and confuse Christianity with patriotism, or if you will, love of God and love of country. Jim Wallis addressed this in God's Politics, "Since when did believing in God and having moral values make you pro-war, pro-rich, and pro-Republican?" Since when is capitalism and the free market part of Jesus' Gospel message?

Somehow in certain circles being pro-America is part and parcel with their faith: criticize America and suddenly you have committed heresy. They often fail to remember JW's other oft quoted point, "God is not an American."

As Christians we all need to understand that our country, our citizenry, and our government are not above the laws of God. America doesn't get a buy simply because some believe we are the greatest nation on earth due to Divine Providence. America does evil things. Just because we try not to do evil or we do fewer evil things than other countries doesn't make it OK. Evil is unfavorable to God regardless of who does it.

I think this situation provides an ironic opportunity for further support of the separation of church and state. But what we need to do is not keep God out of the White House, but keep the flag out of church. I think the real heresy is equating American patriotism with being a good Chrisitian.

I actually wrote a letter to William Armstrong, strongly urging him to not let the standards of Academia down by terminating Professor Paquin. I believe the termination to be an act of censorship in the worst way.

Still I received an email back (surprisingly) and in good taste. Though we agreed to disagree, I do believe that the lesson I learned today is not to be so hasty with judgments on situations that I have not witnessed nor can verify.

Though this thought seems mildly rancid (in lieu of the amount of media accessible today, and the resulting feeling of powerlessness) it atleast accounts for the realness of the situation.

Professor Paquin, and President Armstrong--are not points of debate (though we tend to turn persons in media-based events into them) they are real people, with their lives, emotions, personalities, and character on the line. Let us not forget that as we haphazardly argue and quibble over justice--or what is right. If we do, then we pervert justice and the human good in the act of working towards it.

"don't even attempt to submit their ID 'research" to the proper chaneels, so how would we know? (note: they do submit their mainstream research [i.e. all of Gonzalez's works SANS his ID stuff]to the proper channels, see the difference?)"

Gonzalez ID work was based on the same research as that which was submitted for peer review.

"His candidacy did have merit, in that he met the minimum qualifications to be CONSIDERED, but being considered is a far cry from meeting a minimum criteria and then automatically getting in, see the difference?"

15 is not described as a minimum standard. It is described as a means of proving ones national and international influence. Further, there is no requirement that all of his work be during his time at ISU. This is a contrivance used to explain his denial of tenure after the fact.

That said, I do see a difference between the minimum standard and a compelling case for tenure. One might also expect his work to be referenced by other researchers extensively (it is) and that he be considered an excellent instructor (he is).

His work is rated as the most influential amongst his colleagues in his own department according to standards created by the ADS. He has had more citiations of his work DURING his time at ISU than any other professor in the department.

Further, he would have undoubtedly published more had he not been working on two textbooks, one of which is the intro. textbook used by his own school. Should professors not write textbooks in order to pad their submissions to journals?

Professors do not solely exist to bring in the big bucks. Otherwise, scores of professors would have to be denied tenure solely on this criterion. A number of professors have admitted that their vote was based on the ID issue, so I am not just making it up.

And yes, it presents a problem when the scientific community dismisses ID as science on the basis that it isn't science, and refeuses to allow scientific inquiry. What happened at ISU is a breach of academic freedom.

A number of professors have admitted that their vote was based on the ID issue, so I am not just making it up.

Kevin, I'd like to explore this claim a little more. I've been through 4 pages of google results and can't really find the source for the quotes of these scientists, but rather I keep finding some variant where a small quote is taken, and then West or Luskin (notorious liar...PR spokesman for the Discovery Institute)writes about two paragraphs putting their own spin on a one sentence quote

Prof. John Hauptman (who opposed Gonzalez) writes in his own editorial, stating the following.

" Intelligent design is the notion that a supreme being arranged it for us.

The Greeks thought in a similar way. Grains grew, so there had to be a god Ceres who managed this. The oceans had waves and tides and sank ships, so the god Poseidon was responsible for these. There was love and war and lightning, and a god for each: Aphrodite, Ares and Zeus.

We are past this way of thinking about nature. If one person exemplifies this, it is Galileo, who argued that just thinking about what you see and imagining reasons are not enough. You must test your ideas with measurements, and your ideas (your "theory") must not only agree with all previous measurements, but also predict the results of measurements that have not yet been made. Any single wrong prediction, and you must junk the theory.

Intelligent design is not even a theory. It has not made its first prediction, nor suffered its first test by measurement. Its proponents can call it anything they like, but it is not science."


That is his case in it's entirety.

He concludes by stating this his decision...

"...is purely a question of what is science and what is not, and a physics department is not obligated to support notions that do not even begin to meet scientific standards."


In other words, it is purely a question of whether intelligent design is science. That comes from him, and not Casey Luskin.

Wow...I'm Catholic, yet believe in evolution...I guess in Kevin's eyes I'm not a Christian....
Sad...

Intelligent Design is not a theory of the origin of the universe or a theory of anything else.
Intelligent Design is simply not science.

If you talk to ID groupies, you will first hear them attack Darwin's theory of the origin of species.
They argue that evolution is flawed science.

Then you will hear them propose that ID be taught alongside evolution in the high school science curriculum.
Their idea is that once high school students are exposed to both ID and the evolution of species, they can make up their own minds on they should believe, the evolution of species or the Book of Genesis.

ID is just a Trojan Horse for Christianizing the science curriculum in our public schools and breaking the firewall between their religion and the American government.
In this respect, ID is anti-science and also anti US Constitution.

I won't have my kids wasting any of their precious time on this Trojan Horse.

"If you talk to ID groupies, you will first hear them attack Darwin's theory of the origin of species.
They argue that evolution is flawed science."

Ironically, ID groupies don't even understand ID. IDists like Michael Behe do not in any way discount evolution (in fact, he uses evolutionary processes to support his hypothesis). In order to accept ID, one must also accept evolution.

As a scientist, the bright side of ID is that young earth creationism is beginning to be passed over. The ID of Behe and others accepts an old earth and evolution. I would think most creationists would be threatened by that, as it is, afterall, a slippery slope which will lead exactly where we should be in the first place--to the conclusion that science does not work the way religion does (and vice versa), and therefore should not be treated as such (see S. J. Gould's "Rocks of Ages").

In the meantime, scientifically, ID is best and only referred to as an hypothesis. Theories are hypotheses that have been tested for decades by 100's if not 1000's of researchers whose results appear in PEER REVIEWED

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journals. If the hypothesis stands up to such tests, it becomes a theory. ID is not, by definition, a theory, nor is it even close to becoming one. Evolution is a theory, and by definition has been subjected to rigorous testing.

Sorry about the weird gap there--somehow the message posted spontaneously before I was finished.

Thanks to Squeaky for the clarification.

It's encouraging to hear that Intelligent Design itself has evolved.
The version I was first exposed to out here in the 'boondocks' offered only the young earth alternative for confused high schoolers.

About 5 or 6 years back, a local cabal of young earth believers succeeded in planting an anti-evolution, Intelligent Design biology teacher into a nearby high school.

When one of the student's parents tipped off the ACLU about what was going on in the biology class, the town became engulfed in a nationwide Church and State controversy.
The local 'Young Earth Society' was given substantial technical support from the Discovery Institute, the intelligent design think tank.
The district superintendent nearly lost his job for offering a compromise to keep the biology teacher.
But the parents wouldn't budge and the teacher was replaced and the sup't kept his job.

Years later, bitterly righteous letters from the Young Earth Society still appear in the local paper.
I know most of them - they're card carrying Republicans.