A Transformational Moment (by Jim Wallis)
When the historic legislative milestone of the Voting Rights Act finally passed in 1965, I was still a young teenager. Until then, black people in America didn’t have the right to vote. And until the Civil Rights Act passed the previous year in 1964, black Americans had to drink from separate drinking fountains, eat at separate lunch counters, ride at the back of buses, and watch movies only from the balconies of theaters. Then there was all the violence. I remember a civil rights worker from my hometown of Detroit, named Viola Liuzzo, who traveled to the South in order to help black people win the right to vote for the first time. She was murdered for doing so.
I was still in the U.K. on a book tour Tuesday night, just having finished speaking to a forum at the British Parliament with ministers from all three parties about the relationship between faith and politics. Then I stayed up until 4 a.m. to watch Barack Obama claim the nomination of the Democratic Party for president of the United States. It was my birthday the next day, and I recalled those days when the relationship between faith and politics for many black and a few white Christians was that if you stood up for civil rights -- especially the right to vote for black Americans -- it could get you killed. So I was not only blurry-eyed but also more than a little teary-eyed as I watched a young black man announce that he was ready to run for president of the United States, and for most of America to assume that he had a chance to win.
Race was the issue that led to my own confrontation with the church that raised me. It was my “converting issue,” though the conversion led me out of the white church of my childhood, not into the church. A church elder bluntly told me one night that “Christianity has nothing to do with racism. That’s political and our faith is personal.” I was only about 15, but it was the night I think I left, in my head and my heart. And a couple years later, I was gone all together.
The little evangelical church that my parents had started and that was my second home was simply wrong about race -- completely wrong. Race was the issue that fundamentally shaped my early social conscience. What I saw in Detroit and in the country I had grown up to love seemed fundamentally wrong. I learned there were two Detroits and two Americas, one white and one black. And it seemed contrary to the religion my family had taught me to treat people in a fundamentally different way because of the color of their skin. But the church didn’t agree and we parted company for most of my student years, with me only coming back to faith after a fresh encounter with the radical gospel of the New Testament. I came back with the realization that God is indeed personal, but never private, and exploring what that means has shaped the rest of my life.
So watching Obama, a black man, win the nomination of a major party for the presidency brought back a virtual flood of memories and feelings. That Barack is a friend of 10 years made it all the more personal. This morning I heard several interviews on NPR with black Americans about their response to Obama’s nomination. One older woman said, “A black man running for president, did you hear what just I said? A black man running for president of the United States ….” She just kept repeating the words, and succinctly captured my own personal feelings.
Yes, it is truly historic, and the U.K. newspaper headlines captured that sentiment as did papers around the world. Nothing could change the image of America around the world more than this. But it is more than historic; it is very personal for many of my generation. A new generation just sees this as natural -- he’s an inspirational leader who happens to be black, which matters little to them. But for my generation -- I’m dating myself now -- this is a transformational moment, one we didn't think would come in our lifetimes. Race was the issue that changed us, shaped us, determined our path, and even defined the meaning of our faith. Now a black man is running for president of the United States. Amazing grace.






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Powerful words and inspiration for all social activists that hearts and minds can be changed for the better on issues as volatile as racism.
Posted by: Greg | June 5, 2008 2:59 PM
“Christianity has nothing to do with racism. That’s political and our faith is personal.”
Hopefully in another couple of years current "political" issues like poverty and peace won't be taboo within the Church.
And whether or not one is voting for Obama, one can't deny that this is a truely historic moment.
Posted by: Travis Mamone | June 5, 2008 3:12 PM
Thank you for your very heart-felt reflection, Jim. I'm a bit younger than you (age 34) and, even though I wasn't alive to witness the events that shaped your vision, I would still have to say that Tuesday night's speech in St. Paul was one of the greatest moments of my life - I felt proud to be an American and it rejuvenated my faith!
Posted by: Scott | June 5, 2008 3:15 PM
in 1964, I marched with my Black brothers, in 1965 I was in the military and I drank, planned cards and danced along side my Black brothers. I sang their songs, listened to their music and laughed with them all my life. I AM WHITE! For me this is also a great day for America.
The scripture that plays heavy in my heart is:"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither free man nor slave, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Col 3:28)
What plays a joyful melody right now is the fact that Obama did NOT use the race card in his speech Tuesday night. That is what makes him a true American. If the Republicans through the race card out it will only anger those of us who only see the oneness of Christianity and the oneness of America.
The same could be said if Clinton had won the nomination. FINIALY we can see beyond the stereo-typing of the past and look at people for who they are. God is going to bless us because we have opened our eyes (regardless of who wins in Nov.)
Posted by: Paul | June 5, 2008 3:22 PM
A transformation period well past it's due or maybe one that was perfectly timed...
Good summation of the historical and personal perspective Jim!
Posted by: d.e.sharp | June 5, 2008 4:01 PM
While I appreciate your feelings Jim and your "moment of victory for your candidate" I want you to know that this reader voted for Hillary. Having a black person in the White House, while historic, is NO MORE historic than it would have been to have a female. While you may celebrate this achievement, the hatred spewed on every level at Hillary and "all women" has been shameful. His presumed election (he has not won yet) shows that Sexism is far deeper than Racism and while both are tragic your comments completely overlook how little progress has actually been made. SO - I will once again, swallow my disappoinment and vote for another MALE who purports to hold my agenda, but truly - no one can hold my agenda like a woman.
Posted by: Linda | June 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Amazing grace and astounding hope -- just something Christ would do!
Your article gave me goosebumps and tears to my eyes as I finally read something that put into words the feelings I had the night Obama captured the nomination. Alone in my home that night, I was clapping with the crowd and cheering and crying.
As a teenager my family moved from the Pacific Northwest where teens of all colors got along, to Las Vegas, Nevada. My eyes were opened to prejudice and the anger of blacks at school and I even experienced a race riot. As a white student who loved people for their hearts, I had never encountered anything like it. It opened up deep discussions with my father, who grew up in southern Illinois and was raised to stay away from East St. Louis because it was a black community.
Throughout my life, as my faith grew so did my conviction that God created all of us equal. We are to love each other -- regardless of color, sexuality, age, capabilities or disabilities. Halleluah and Praise God that we have progressed in America to be at this point.
Thank you for Sojourners to encouraging me on my Journey!
Posted by: Susan Scott | June 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Thank you for your heartfelt thoughts on this amazing step in America's life. I agree that it is moving and life changing. It gives me hope again in the American people. Let's keep working to bring about the change that Barack is advocating.
Posted by: Joy Lapp | June 5, 2008 5:27 PM
When I was 17 years old I heard Father Groppi speak at Duquesne University. It inflamed my own activism until, two years later, I found myself in Tennessee helping to register African-American voters. I watched with satisfaction the other night as a fond Dream came to fruition: the Playing Field is level. At last, we're all permitted to join the Game.
Posted by: Gerard Rohlf | June 5, 2008 5:29 PM
And what do we get in return--BARAK OBAMA sells his soul to the Jews. He talks like a warmonger before the American Israeli lobby. Ten years a friend with Jim Wallis and this is what he learns. Obama sells the peace movement down the river. This is disgusting. The man is a sell-out!
. Check it out:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060403508.html
A mere 12 hours after claiming the Democratic presidential nomination, Barack Obama appeared before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee yesterday -- and changed himself into an Israel hard-liner.
He promised $30 billion in military assistance for Israel. He declared that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps' Quds Force has "rightly been labeled a terrorist organization." He used terms such as "false prophets of extremism" and "corrupt" while discussing Palestinians. And he promised that "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."
Vowing to stop Tehran from getting a nuclear weapon, the newly minted nominee apparent added: "I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally, Israel. Do not be confused."
How could they be confused? As a pandering performance, it was the full Monty by a candidate who, during the primary, had positioned himself to Hillary Clinton's left on matters such as Iran. Yesterday, Obama, who has generally declined to wear an American-flag lapel pin, wore a joint U.S.-Israeli pin, and even tried a Hebrew phrase on the crowd.
Obama even outdid President Bush in his pro-Israel sentiments. On the very day that Obama vowed to protect Jerusalem as Israel's capital -- drawing a furious denunciation from the Palestinian Authority -- Bush announced that he was suspending a move of the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Posted by: Dave J | June 5, 2008 5:35 PM
In 1955 I was sent to Ft. Campbell, Ky. to become a member of the 11th Airborne Division. There I saw the signs on the drinking fountains and restrooms, whites only, coloreds. Thanks to President Truman, the military was integrated; but that didn't eliminate racism. I challenged it there as I did continually the rest of my life.
After leavinf the Army I attended St. Ambrose College, Davenport, Iowa. There Fr. William T. O'Conner had been leading a continuous fight against racism. I brought the first blacl and female student to enroll there.
Later, working in the Illinois Dept. of Labor; another President whom I helped to elect, John F. Kennedy, sent down an executive order ending discrimination in job refferals. This I took seriously. As a result, Sears Roebuck & Co. of Moline, Illinois hired their first black salesman. A popular Rock Island restaurant hired the first black waitress in R. I. county. The list goes on.
I am grateful that Senator Obama has the nomination. He reminds me of the senator I supported in 1960. He is a symbol of hope. Now, we must not let hope die. The battle is far from over; but I hope to see it to its conclusion.
Love & Peace
Posted by: Dr. Art Donart | June 5, 2008 5:44 PM
As an white male I rejoice that the door is open for the majority race in this world [non-white] to take power over this country by due process under the law. All Christians should rejoice over the fact that we are all now one [when it comes to political power] as Jesus declared we should be. There are other hurtles to jump before equality of the races is achieved but it is a great start!
Posted by: Bill Davis | June 5, 2008 5:44 PM
In 1955 I was sent to Ft. Campbell, Ky. to become a member of the 11th Airborne Division. There I saw the signs on the drinking fountains and restrooms, whites only, coloreds. Thanks to President Truman, the military was integrated; but that didn't eliminate racism. I challenged it there as I did continually the rest of my life.
After leavinf the Army I attended St. Ambrose College, Davenport, Iowa. There Fr. William T. O'Conner had been leading a continuous fight against racism. I brought the first blacl and female student to enroll there.
Later, working in the Illinois Dept. of Labor; another President whom I helped to elect, John F. Kennedy, sent down an executive order ending discrimination in job refferals. This I took seriously. As a result, Sears Roebuck & Co. of Moline, Illinois hired their first black salesman. A popular Rock Island restaurant hired the first black waitress in R. I. county. The list goes on.
I am grateful that Senator Obama has the nomination. He reminds me of the senator I supported in 1960. He is a symbol of hope. Now, we must not let hope die. The battle is far from over; but I hope to see it to its conclusion.
Love & Peace
Posted by: Dr. Art Donart | June 5, 2008 5:44 PM
It's a good development (and I understand that Obama is your friend), but I personally am feeling simply devastated today because I favored Hillary. I and many others feel that she has gotten a raw deal from the party and the press. People (mainly bloggers and Internet commentators) have hurled epithets at her that shouldn't be voiced im polite company.
I'd have to say that misogyny has ruined this campaign for me.It's hard for me to figure at this point whether I will vote at all in the fall. If I do it might be to write Hillary in.
Posted by: Wendy Contos | June 5, 2008 5:48 PM
Hello Folks;
Powerful comments about race and the church. I, too, was brought up that race was no big thing. But I learned different as I saw the world around me growing older in Seattle. Race IS relevant, and I began to understand the mistrust alot of Blacks have toward White folks, and also the reverse. But this merely planted the seeds.
Then came Katrina! The floodgates were open on the subject, in more ways than one ... the tragic dirty flood waters that flooded a predominately Black city in the South. And the neglect that followed. I most certainly knew then that race was relevant and was deeply saddened by the whole thing. People waited for WEEKS on rooftops and many died. Personally, I think if this had been a mostly White suburb ... that neglect would have never happened.
It is really time ... in fact PAST time ... for us to engage in a meaningful dialogue and build lasting friendships across racial lines. the racial divide MUST be crossed. There are too many lives at stake and too many people being neglected to do any less.
And an apology for slavery?
That is the very LEAST that needs to be done. There needs to be much more done to deal with it's aftermath. There needs to be more done to mitigate the lasting legacy of hopelessness ... I believe we can do this much.
Martin Luther King was right when he said "racism is a sickness unto death." After living here for close to three years, I know this is true. After Katrina. I will never be the same on the issue.
Lynn Magnuson
New Orleans, LA.
Posted by: Lynn Magnuson | June 5, 2008 5:51 PM
I have to admit that I've been praying to God to help us find a courageous and compassionate person to be our new President. One of the prayers I recite is the Magnificat - The Canticle of Mary, and last night these verses really resonated with me, in light of Sen. Obama's victory:
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
I choose to believe that God heard our prayers.
Posted by: Sandy | June 5, 2008 5:57 PM
Yes...this is a breakthrough moment in our history. I teach in a seminary which is, for the most part, an egalitarian environment. But I was raised in the south and still live in the south. Currently I live in a small TN town and during the last election I witnessed, at the polls, what was a sign of hope for me as I saw two older gentlemen, one white, one black warmly shaking hands and greeting each other. I actually wept later as I thought of that picture, a picture I would never have seen in the south in which I grew up. The election didn't come out the way I had wanted it to; Harold Ford, Jr., an African-American man was not elected as Senator; but I did see hope in that greeting. And today, I feel hope. I'm not blind; I know there is still a racism problem. There is still a sin problem, after all. But Obama's nomination feels to me like a sign of the time when all those struggles will be over.
Posted by: K E Alexander | June 5, 2008 5:57 PM
I too listened to Obama's speech the other night.
For the first time in a very long time I felt proud to be an American. Obama's nomination sends a message to the rest of the world that the American dream is not dead - that a man of mixed race, with intelligence, hard work and heart can become (inshallah) the next president of the United States. He gives hope not only to this country but by extention the world!
Posted by: Lissa Caldwell | June 5, 2008 6:02 PM
I believe that you have let your emotions overtake your facts when you say "black people in America didn’t have the right to vote" until 1965. Morally, many would say that they have always had that right. Legally, I believe that right was set out many years before 1965. In practice, there were numerous roadblocks and hurdles until years after 1965.
The people I hear commenting on this election don't seem to like any of the candidates. Not a one of them has said that they wouldn't vote for Obama because of race.
Robert
Posted by: Robert Stone | June 5, 2008 6:06 PM
You, Jim Wallis, also deserve so much thanks for forming Sojourners to give others of us who remember those times and, like you, couldn't reconcile traditional religion's presentation of God with what God told our heart he was about through the Gospels, through Jesus' actions while on earth. Your efforts have not only benefitted us, but are a big reason for the change in our country - the change that brought our country to the place where we could nominate (and hopefully elect!) a person of mixed race. Your synergy with Barack Obama at the Compassion Conference was very striking. His promise to you to make eradicating poverty in America a goal of his administration appeared to be very heartfelt. I hope that he makes a prominent place for you in his administration to help lead America toward that goal.
Again, thank you for your leadership and Sojourners - and continually reminding the world that God is a loving God and of where our priorities in life should be placed.
Wisty Olsson
Posted by: Wisty Olsson | June 5, 2008 6:09 PM
I grew up as a white southerner in the time of segregation everywhere--schools, restaurants, public transportation, housing, drinking fountains--you name it; a cross was burned in the yard of a nearby new neighbor, an African American doctor, by my white neighbors. My family knew it was wrong, and worked hard to change the system. I am beyond thrilled that Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, and I hope his leadership on race and other issues can move us further down the road toward a truly inclusive United States. At the same time, I keep wondering why he is only referred to by the media, and now you, as black, when in fact his heritage is biracial. I guess I keep thinking of the days when "one drop" was considered "enough" to categorize a person as black. It may be past time to move toward a more accurate description.
Posted by: ann weller | June 5, 2008 6:27 PM
Tranformational moment indeed!!
Unlike Mr. Wallis my faith -- as it was preached then -- the Roman faith -- led me to see racism as sin in my teen years even though my small town, blue collar parents remained oblivious. It was for me an article of faith, after I heard Dr. King's speech from the Mall, that "We shall overcome." was synonymous with the Exodus and Ressurection. As I moved on to college I grew further. I was far from distressed or put off by "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner". I loved that Irish monseignur. My inherent, God given, emotional affinity for the down trodden and Faith History as Revolution began to be articulated in political terms.
I don't pretend to know what it means to experience being black. In my youth I thought I knew and I angered many African-Americans with my naievete. For that mea culpa.
But through these 40-50 years since that time, in years of estrangement, I have -- Thank the Lord -- not "lost it". I see The Creator at work in human history. It manifests itself in moments of "Passover". I too connected with the Creator on Tuesday night. I cried genuine tears of joy!
The Creator Lives!! Now is the day of JUBILEE!!
In 50 years I have become estranged from Roman orthodoxy.
Posted by: Richard | June 5, 2008 6:31 PM
Dear Jim:
After reading a "Transformational Moment" I agree with you. I also was very emotional at Obama's clinching the nomination. A man of mixed race (read black man) taking the nomination of the Democratic Party? Wow! I too am of a "certain age" (over 50) and also grew up in those times. The Civil Rights Movement, Dr. King's assasination and RFK's assasination (both in 1968, where did 40 years go?), the riots all helped form who we are. I'm so glad to see that for our kids (mine's 20) race really doesn't matter. Are they "color blind"? I sure hope so! To those who supported Hillary I offer this: You have a choice, you can be bitter about the misogyny that you perceive thwarted her campaign and let McCain win, or you can heal your wounds (and the Democratic Party's) and join to help the Democratic ticket win in November. We absolutely need the Democrats to win in November, this country cannot take another four years of Republican lack of leadership. Hillary as far as I'm concerned didn't "lose". She ran an non-stop campaign and put Obama through his paces. The only problem was that once McCain became the presumptive nominee in March, the attacks should have been going towards him, not each other! Keep the faith, change is going to happen. Keep focused on what really matters, getting this country we love back on track!
Posted by: Debbie Lackowitz | June 5, 2008 6:34 PM
Fantastic article! Thank you for this.
Posted by: toddh | June 5, 2008 6:36 PM
Sorry to sound like a party pooper Jim - but whilst I deeply appreciate where you are coming from; as a woman politician from the other side of the Pond I'm dismayed at seeing yet another experienced,capable woman being traduced and pushed aside in what feels too much like a sentimentalist spasm. We as the majority of the world's population, continue our own long wait to throw off the chains of oppression and its disappointing to see in Senator Obama's " Audacity of Hope" that in the index under "women", apart from three minor references that say nothing about his views and policies it just says "see family". Not much audacity and not much hope for us there then!
I'm also deeply concerned that whilst well meaning people over your way may be feeling good about themselves for getting a black candidate, the rest of the world is desperate for you to get a new president - and I believe , on the basis of the results and history, that nominating Obama and patronisingly sidelining Senator Clinton who has shown her reach to so many other unfashionable and voiceless groups is more likely to result in a McCain government than "change we can believe in". I hope to God I am proved wrong - it wouldn't be the first time!
Posted by: Judith Gardiner | June 5, 2008 6:38 PM
I don't want my kids, or yours, to be "color blind." In the first place, it's not possible, any more than it is possible to "not see" whether one is male or female. I want them to see, and respect and honor, one another's color, to not use it as an excuse to discriminate or stereotype. As the former secretary of the NAACP said (I'm paraphrasing), It's not a matter of being color-blind--that's not such a worthwhile or realistic goal; it's, once having seen color, what one does about it.
Posted by: ann weller | June 5, 2008 6:41 PM
Barack Obama is not black. He has a white mother. He is just as white as he is black.
He is a man running for president. Oh, No! I just threw in sex. He is a person running for president
Posted by: Hillman Byram | June 5, 2008 6:41 PM
Whoops I didn't mean for my post to appear 3 times. It just kept not posting. When it finally decided to do it, it went up three times. Maybe somebody could delete two?
Posted by: Wendy Contos | June 5, 2008 6:54 PM
Jim
I have been thinking about how to put my thoughts down about the beauty and signifcance of this historic event.
Now I dont have to
You said it better than I could ever say it
Go Obama
Posted by: Jim Henderson | June 5, 2008 6:55 PM
First off, I object to you calling Barack Obama a "young black man." Obama is more than a decade older than me and I consider myself an "old man." At the very least, I do not consider myself "youth"; nor, do I think, does most of American society.
But I understand your excitement. Barack Obama's campaign is transformative, breaking new groun on so many different levels, and hopeful in terms of the future of our country.
I appreciate Barack Obama's campaign and I appreciate Sojourners for leading the fight for justice from the perspective of the Christian community.
Posted by: William Burnett | June 5, 2008 6:55 PM
To Wendy & Linda,
As a black woman, I know and understand the pain that you and so many Hillary supporters have regarding the near-win of your candidate. Hillary's campaign was very personal for many people, particularly for women. And yes there were a number of ugly things said. Most of those things were said by surrogates, supporters, pundits, bloggers and the like. I mention that because it seems as though a number of Clinton female supporters are angry specifically with Barack Obama as though he said those things. I can only recall one thing that he said that wasn't gracious regarding Hillary. It wasn't sexist, just not very gracious.
I understand the hurt feelings about the remarks because I've had people say very ugly things to me about my race and my gender my whole life. At this point in my life, it kinda rolls off the back. Not to minimize the disillusionment you may have, but you may now begin to understand what so many black people and other people of color have experienced forever. It's hard sometimes to have empathy when you are not the object of ugliness. Your comments above seem to indicate that sexism is more prevalent now than racism. I don't think that's true and I don't think there is any good trying to measure which one is rampant than the other. Bigotry in any form is repulsive. For all the women who are upset about the misogyny following Clinton's campaign, would you be as understanding of those who would make the same argument about racism if Barack had lost?
I seriously doubt that Barack is a misogynist. His wife Michelle is a very formidable woman and would not brook that kind of man in her life. How can I say that? She and my sister were roommates in college. Both women have always been strong-willed and not in the least bit willing to back down from putting a man in his place when he is disrespectful. (I am the same way.) I believe he is a good man with a great respect for women.
I really appreciate Hillary for the trail-blazer she is. Oftentimes, it is not the trail-blazer who gets the brass ring (i.e. Moses, MLK). Take heart Hillary supporters. She's kicked the hole in the door and her sisters and daughters are right behind her ready to kick the door open. Buck up, gals. We need your strength and your committment because this is not the end of the dream but the beginning.
One last thing...as the daughter, granddaughter and great-granddaughter of some incredibly strong women, I am so proud to live in these times. I only wish my mother and grandmother could have lived long enough to see this campaign season.
Posted by: Nuttshell | June 5, 2008 7:03 PM
I am a Canadian who will now take a special interest in the American presidental election because Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination to run for President. I am hoping frevently that he will win. The fact his policies are so much better than McCain's is more important than his race. But, when his race and his polices are taken together, he and his win of the nominatin inspires hope. If I were an American, Obama is the first presidential candidate that I would campaign for that can ever rememgber ( I am 60 ). It is no wonder most nations and people of the world are excited by this change as the Bush admininstration has managed to alienate even its nearest neighbours and closest friends that we Canadians had been in the pat with the U. S.. However, cozy the Canadian Federal Harper government may be with the Bush Administration, most Canadians have felt alienated by the Bush Adminstration and disillusioned with the U. S. being a bastion of democracy for the world. The U. S. is isolated even from its nearest and closest allies including Canada as a result of the Bush Administration policies and actions. With the nomination of Obama, perhaps American relations with the rest of the world including with Canada will start to improve and continue IF Obama wins.
If Obama wins, I am hoping that it will help to pressure the neo-conservative, right wing governments Federally and in a lot of provnces including my own of British Columbia to become more liberal politically generally and in their social policies specifically. Our Federal government is governed by the Conservative Party of Canada which is a carbon copy of the neo-conservative, right wing of the American Repulican Party. Our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper is a member of the "religious right" just as George Bush is because he claims to be a CHristian and goes to church. My province of British Columbia is also governed by a neo-conservative, right wing political Party which is the Liberal Party of B. C.. Our Premier,Gordon Campbell, is also right wing, neo-conservative except in the areas of the Environment in which he is seeking to deal with climiate change in imitation of California and in creating a Ministry of Aboriginal Reltations and Reconciilation to improve relationships with and deal with the Aboriginal peoples of B. C. for which I applaud him. It is my hope that if Barack Obama wins the Presidency of the U. S., it will encourage Canadians to vote out the Conservative Party Federally and British Columbians to vote out the Liberal Party provincailly. There will be both Federal and provincial elections in Canada and in B. C. next year so that if Obama wins in the U. S., it can not but help to encouarge Canadians to seek CHANGE also. WE Canadians can campaign for change too. This gives me hope that the reign of the neo-conservatives and the religious right is coming to end in both the United States and in Canada. May God make it so. I shall pray for it.
Posted by: Tyler Barnes | June 5, 2008 7:05 PM
My birthday was yesterday also and I am now 55. As an African American woman I lived in my America but I had to always be aware of white America to stay alive on all levels.
I feel that I am still quite numb and find myself crying at odd times when I think about Barack and the spiritual meaning of all of this.(not religous)
I dont think that Barack even understands the whole picture inreference to him being used as a tool to heal this WORLD or too many of the younger people but I do
So I will keep on crying at odd times until I greve and let go of all of my baggage about the past and allow myself to expereince the joy of this momment ;stepping deeper into Grace and Forgivness. I owe myself and all humans that much. InGrace
Hitaji Aziz
Posted by: Hitaji Aziz | June 5, 2008 7:11 PM
With everyday of this electoral process progressing I find myself holding my heart in my hands, remembering everything that my childhood can recall about the 60's.
I still remember a time when the director of the FBI could make phone calls that would influence the leadership of our churches when he wasn't having them bugged. We still live in times when our administration feels they have the right to read our emails and listen to our phone conversations. An administration that has clearly defined how they see religion's role in politics. We still have institutions and monuments named after J. E. Hoover.
I live for a day when our leaders and political institutions take a hands off approach to our religious institutions. I think Obama has the right approach and he should hold McCain's feet to the fire on this issue.
'Set those holy men down and leave them alone.'
Don't cuddle up to them for votes and don't expect them to agree with you.
It is one thing for people of faith to have dialog in the pews about their values. It is quite another thing for politicians to ask for their endorsement or following.
It would have been nice if Hilary didn't have Bill for baggage. However she has set a president. There are many qualified women who would make great VPs . i.e. Linda Sanchez from CA. is no light weight.
We need to get busy and name some of these women.
Posted by: Ms. Cynthia | June 5, 2008 7:23 PM
As a child of the 60s and listening to Obama's speech, I was moved to tears. Your article captured it all....what a moment for this country! He will need our prayers and support to lead our country to become all it can be. What a blessing!
Posted by: Jenny Vervynck | June 5, 2008 7:25 PM
I'm 62 years old. My mother's ancestors came here in 1685 pursuing religious freedom. They became southern slave owners and, after Emancipation, nauseatingly racist bigots. They tried to indoctrinate me too, but I never bought it. They claimed to be God's devoted Christians, never seeing the contradiction between their behavior and our Sunday School song "Red and Yellow, Black and White, ALL are precious in His sight." They claimed to worship Jesus while never doing anything Jesus said we should. They lost both me and my brother before we were 20. We'll never be back. To see Barack Obama victorious as Democratic nominee is to see our ancestors' bigotry vanquished. Unapologetic to Hillary supporters, we feel more loyalty to people of color than to women, who were our chief abusers. I want to see a person of color in the White House -- not just any, but one worthy, as I believe Obama is. If not a Native American, which is my dearest wish (I'll be long dead before that!), then an African American. And I want to see Christians start acting like followers of the teachings of Jesus instead of behaving like the Antichrist. Today is a momentous day -- a small step, but a great leap for America. May God protect Obama, whether he wins in November or not.
Posted by: French | June 5, 2008 7:39 PM
In some ways, it's sad that having an African American man winning the Democratic Party nomination should be exceptional. This should have happened years ago.
The same would be true if a woman were to have been nominated.
Or, if a person from a minority religious tradition were to have been nominated.
And yet, all the ugly things said about race AND gender kind of show us why it is not really so surprising that women and African Americans - and to some extent, Mormons - have taken so long to get to the point where they might be in a position to win the nomination.
Posted by: Weiwen | June 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Regarding "colorblindness":
When my daughter, now 41, was four years old, we were in a US Army base laundromat in Germany. She was playing with a group of children, only one of whom was black, a girl in a yellow dress. My daughter came to tell me something about her partner in their game. She did not say "the black girl." She said "the girl in the yellow dress." I thought, "Thank heaven, in this is our hope." She has never let me down.
Posted by: French | June 5, 2008 8:14 PM
As young white boy, born and raised in north Idaho, I very rarely saw an African American. It was a big deal when the Harlem Globe Trotters came to town to play in our high school gym. I couldn't get over how wonderful I thought they were. There was no prejudice in my immediate family, but there was some around me in the wider social structure. It hardly ever came to the surface because there were just no black people in our midst.
Then Vietnam happened and in 1965 I ended up at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tennessee to attend avionics school. I was eighteen years old, old enough to by beer in Mississippi so like most young men I headed down there as soon as possible to “have fun.” It was there that I first felt the real pain of racial hatred. I was almost suffocated by its heaviness and it seemed that you could see it rising in the air like heat waves off a long stretch of desert highway. I could not understand it. No one had prepared me for such a living nightmare. I wanted to talk to someone but couldn't, as everyone else just acted as if “all is well.”
Later in the summer, as I was driving a friend's car in Memphis, a black woman in her late middle age (as I judged her then) was bumped slightly by a passing motorist. It wasn't much of a bump but enough to cause her to lose her balance and fall to the pavement. My instinct was to stop my car, help her up and get her to the sidewalk - and I did so. It was not a well received gesture as I saw many strange birds flying out of car windows and heard just as many honking horns. For a moment I was afraid, but she was now off the road and didn't seem to be hurt. She never said a word to me but I will never forget the “thank you” in her eyes. So, to echo Rev. Wallis, Barack Obama's success has brought back many emotions. But there is a new emotion burning in my heart now – one of pride – pride in our young people who are ignoring the older generation's intolerance and teaching us all how to move forward as one humanity.
Posted by: Robert Evans | June 5, 2008 8:18 PM
After graduating from Princeton Theological Seminary in 1951, I was called as Chaplain Assistant and Activity Director at The State Industrial Farm for Women (Prison) in Goochland, Virginia. I was shocked at the discrimination forced upon all activities. In church the black chior stodd on one side and the whites on the other. White baseball teams could not play against the black teams. I could dance with any white prisoner but not with black prisoners.Holidays activities were scheduled with one day for the whites and the next day for the blacks. I decided to leave and work in a church in NY State. I got a call from the prison asking me to take one of the young black women into my home and help her. Yes! I got her a job as a live-in Nanny for a doctor and his family. It was a start.
Posted by: Genie | June 5, 2008 8:18 PM
Yes, Jim, I share your excitement that someone from a visible minority can get this far. I too take inspiration from your country's civil rights movement.
But as a voice from the ROTW, I don't think I agree with your statement that "nothing could change the image of America around the world more than this - referring to the overcoming of the race barrier. For many of us (probably most of us, but in Britain not well represented by the main political parties), what would change the image of America would be the election of a president who has (i) integrity, (ii) intelligence and (iii) an understanding that the American way is not always superior, just different. The conduct of the present incumbent has lowered our opinion of your country on all three counts; you have to go back as far as Jimmy Carter to find a president who didn't earn contempt on at least one of them. From what I've seen, both of the present candidates would pass tests (i) and (ii). I have some hope that Obama would pass (iii) as well; I think McCain would fail that one.
But please excuse me if I don't celebrate quite yet - I assess politicians by what they do, not by what they say (and not by their ethnicity either).
meurig
Posted by: meurig | June 5, 2008 8:26 PM
Further to my comment above, what I really want to know about Obama is:
Will he, instead of fighting against the flesh and blood of human beings (for example Iranians), fight against the principalities and powers (in both the spiritual and the organisational spheres) that have caused his country to pursue dominance over others?
meurig
Posted by: meurig | June 5, 2008 8:53 PM
Thank you for your article. I would make one correction. Black Americans did have the "right" to vote (15th Amendment to the Constitution). The problem was that many states made it difficult or almost impossible for many of them to exercise it, requiring the legislative (as opposed to Constitutional) change represented by the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the incredible efforts of the staff of the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department (at least until the current Administration) to enforce that right.
My only concern about Obama was his pandering to AIPAC this week and support of one of the most racist nation states in the world. I hope he knows better and realizes that this sort of behavior is precisely the kind of "politics as usual" that all of us supporting change and supporting him thought we were going to get behind us.
Posted by: A. Loikow | June 5, 2008 9:12 PM
As a Christian, I am sorry that along the way to his nomination Mr. Obama repudiated his long-time pastor, apparently for political purposes. The way the majority of the media treated the Rev. Wright demonstrated a profound ignorance of and contempt for both the prophetic tradition in Christianity and the black church in America. While I can understand the happiness of Americans of faith -- all faiths -- at the prospect of having a president whose policies may be consonant with our shared values, I would warn against socially and politically "progressive" Christians making of Mr. Obama what our conservative sisters and brothers made of George W. Bush. To do so would serve neither the church or the Gospel of Jesus Christ particularly well.
Posted by: Robin Ressler | June 5, 2008 9:14 PM
Obama is an extremist leftist. He doesn't bring change, he brings us back to the hippy 60's of decadence and licentiousness. Only, he may obtain the power to inflict the immorality of the hippies into every paycheck in way that will stagger every good home in America. There is a good chance that damning America will be a reality.
Posted by: Never a liberal. No way. | June 5, 2008 9:16 PM
What would have been truly amazing is if a woman had been elected president. It is shocking that India, Vietnam, Ireland, Germany, the Phillipines and other countries have had women leaders but the United States of America has not.
Churches in America that discriminate against people of color through doctrine would (should!) be fiercely criticized. Yet, there are churches in America who clearly and routinely practice limiting a woman's authority in church and somehow the Christian community is not outraged by this.
It is tremendous to have an African American man as a viable candidate for President. However, let us not forget the gender disparity that still exists.
Posted by: Katie | June 5, 2008 9:16 PM
When my brother Tom Skinner was alive, he was a thorn in the side of the evangelical church in America. I am thankful that after nearly 14 years after his death that there are those in the white evangelical church who have awakened to the words which he spoke in those days. I am, too, very thankfulfor Senator Barack Obama, I have and I will continue to pray for him and for his family.
I don't like all this talk about assasination, it is very distrubing to me. Why can't we focus on the future and pray that God will protect him and give to him the courage to be and to do what is right for America.
I will also pray that he will find a fellowship of believer's in Jesus the Christ, who can help to nourish and support him and his family. He also need people around him who will speak truth to poweer.
I am thankful to my pastor, Dr. Gardner Taylor, who continues to be a voice of truth to power in our day as he approaches his 90th birthday.
Keep the faith and stay strong.
Johnnie William Skinner, Pastor
Mount Zion Baptist Church
Knoxville, TN 37914
Posted by: Johnnie William Skinner | June 5, 2008 9:17 PM
Some may take for granted that a man who happens to be black is running for president. I am currently reading a book about a white minister in 1957 who risked his life along with those of the black community who helped to integrate Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas. The struggle to get to this point has been hard fought and many who fought the fight or fight the fight for racial equality often are forgotten for their love and ultimate sacrifice.
Jesus welcomed all to the table and to think that people have lost their lives or risked their lives to include all at the table as recently as the 1960's (and still all over the world) makes Obama's rise to power and prominence in our country so incredibly wonderful.
During my formative years, I witnessed the assassinations of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert Kennedy. Later, I learned of those murdered during the Civil Rights movement for their work. Even now, I personally was told not to list my work for racial justice on my resume for fear that someone may think of me as too radical to hire.
May God open the hearts of those that let hatred blind them to God's love for all people - regardless of color, religion or whatever other human constructed division we construct to promote hatred.
Posted by: Grace | June 5, 2008 9:50 PM
There is a factual error in your post, Jim. African Americans were entitled to vote prior to the nineteen sixties. Black men got the vote in 1865, black women got the vote in 1920 along with other American women. The Voting Rights Act was passed to counter restrictions that had grown up in black majority areas, such as literacy tests and other artificial racial barriers. But I remember black people lining up to vote in my Georgia hometown in the 195Os.
Posted by: Carolyn | June 5, 2008 10:05 PM
It's just as prejudiced to base a choice FOR someone on her sex or his race as it is to vote against that candidate because of sex or race. There probably are those who did not support Mrs. Clinton due to sexism or misogyny, just as, without a doubt, there are those who would never vote for Mr. Obama because he is black. But that doesn't mean that all people who don't support Obama are racist, nor does it mean that the only thing preventing someone from supporting Mrs. Clinton is misogyny. I am a middle aged white woman. I would love to vote for a woman candidate for president. But I did not prefer this particular woman candidate.
I choose to assume that most people voted for the person they thought was best qualified, and will do so in the general election. Perhaps we can help that happen by encouraging our friends and neighbors to educate themselves about the issues and to choose based on a careful assessment of who would be the best leader, and by leading discussions that are issue-focused, not fear-based or irrelevant (or untrue).
Also, let's not forget that we all need to stay involved and make sure Washington hears what we, as people of faith, care about and what we want them to do.
Posted by: Amy | June 5, 2008 10:12 PM
More nonsense from Jim Wallis. I am against both
Barack and Hillary, but not because he is black and
she is a woman. I would gladly vote for the right
man or woman of any color -- but
not for anyone who believes that it is all right
to kill babies, who wants to give special
protection to homosexuals, who wants to pander to
the eco-hysterical environmentalist lobby (and
thus drive up, not reduce prices), or who is hostile towards God's Chosen People, the Jews. But in the
end it is all meaningless, anyway. The USA, like
all nations (except Israel), belong to Satan (see
Matt. 4: 8-10). Therefore, no matter who is in
charge, all nations will sooner or later degenerate,
and will in the end follow the Antichrist. I see
much confusion of the Kingdom of Heaven with
earthly kingdoms, from both the Right and the
Left.
Posted by: John G. | June 5, 2008 10:22 PM
My understanding is that Obama is not black but bi-racial.
Posted by: judithod | June 5, 2008 11:02 PM
The fact that a new generation sees a black man running for president as "natural" is a testament to how far we've come as a society. I'm 1/2 a generation younger than Jim so the Civil Rights Movement doesn't have the same impact on me that it did for him (not that it's any less important). But I'm old enough to remember hearing my grandmother refer to blacks as "the coloreds", so this election is as historic for me as it might be for those older than myself.
As we stand on the cusp of electing the first black president in US history (and we will elect him), it reminds me of A Tale of Two Cities: "It was the best of times; it was the worst of times". We have never had a worse President in th history of our country than we do now, and we are about to elect one that promises to be the best. MLK would be so proud.
Posted by: Kathleen McG | June 5, 2008 11:07 PM
Thank you Jim Wallis for your comment. You and I are about the same age and many of your memories are mine also.
There are tears too in the eyes of this middle aged Christian southern white woman.
I do not vote because of someones color, gender or religion. However, that a man of color, has been able to achieve this nomination is groundbreaking and historical and my heart swells with pride for the country I love.
Although my first allegiance was toward John Edwards (who I, like his wife, was sorry that he was neither a woman or of color), I like what Obama has to say. He has my vote because of his attitude and his stand on important issues of our time.
Hillary ran a tough fight. I feel badly for her bitter pill of defeat. If she supported issues dear to my heart she would have had my vote...not because she was a woman. It will be another transforming event when a woman is elected to our highest office, and I am certain that will happen. Hillary did break down barriers and has achieved a victory, just not the victory she was looking for today.
Thank you, nuttshell, for your comments.
Posted by: pedsrn | June 5, 2008 11:09 PM
As a Canadian who has watched the conduct of US presidents since Truman, I am surprised that so few comment on the huge gap between what they say and what they do.All of the hopeful sentiments Barrack raised in his speeches has to be understood in the light of his actions at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. At least some people will not be disappointed if he wins the election and then acts as aggressively without regard for human rights as all of his Republican and Democrat predecessors have. The race or gender of a politician is not what matters. It is what they do not what they are.
Posted by: David Ramsay | June 5, 2008 11:15 PM
Wonderful comments on a wonderful man. As a Canadian travelling in India, I sincerely hope that Mr.Obama will be aware that the economic and political future of the world is shifting from the United States to India and China. What is happening in the USA right now is of much lesser interest to these two counries than most Americans and Canadians think it is. Power is definitely shifting - and a new world is dawning
Posted by: george millard | June 6, 2008 12:31 AM
I can't say much more than others have said, Jim. Your words ring so true. I'm a little younger than you -- 48 -- but I grew up in the South and I would never have believed we'd get to this point so soon either. It has been a truly transformational election, not just with Obama running but also Hillary Clinton -- a woman and a black man. Amazing grace, indeed. I voted for Obama but I'm proud that us Democrats not only put our hearts and souls and tears behind this great black leader but also a great woman. I look forward to the two of them moving forward towards a victory bigger than either of those two individuals. This is a victory that all Americans and Christians can share. We have grown. I have compassion for Linda, the Clinton supporter who expresses bad feelings about the primary race, saying "While you may celebrate this achievement, the hatred spewed on every level at Hillary and 'all women' has been shameful." I didn't see that hatred. I saw people passionate for their candidates of choice on both sides -- passionate for two equally strong candidates who had different styles. Either one of them would be great presidents and I'm proud of both of them. I look forward to all of us uniting as a party, as a nation, and as the true Christians we should be -- tolerant, compassionate, concerned with poverty and ready and willing to put this country back on the right track. God bless!
Posted by: Mark | June 6, 2008 1:03 AM
Truely history is in the making, not only in America but through the World. I read a comment above someone saying "Obama is not black but bi-racial" and something in me jumped; isn't just it? There is neither black nor white, we are human beings, each made in the image of God. South Africa is going through a shameful period and we all (most) are ashamed, and should be, because of this xenophobic violence. Acrhbishop D. Tutu appealed to the world and particularly Africa for forgiveness. I'd like to believe he spoke for us all. A 'coloured lady' (bi-racial in SA) asked a question, "who is really S. African?" and she went on to answer it; "I am, the only truely born in SA. All of you, whether black or white, originates from somewhere else, your great-great-great..grantparents migrated into this area from somewhere; 'White Africans' from Europe and Black Africans from East or West Africa. I use White Africans as a provocation because Obama's choice is really a provocation of our prejudice (strongholds) as people. Today South African leadership stands in the best place to speak a message of true reconciliation to our African brothers because we (blacks) caused the offence, the opposite of apartheid time when we were wronged. SA stands again at a crossroad, a good choice for reconciliation may open a door for true broetherhood, reconciliation and hopefully well rooted development in Africa. The opposite will be a lost opportunity. Chabeli, L.
Posted by: Lehlohonolo Chabeli | June 6, 2008 1:17 AM
Wow -- I just read Nuttshell's comments above regarding Linda's bad feelings. Nuttshell's moniker is perfect: she really addressed the heart and soul of these issues -- in a nutshell. Thanks for your comments.
Posted by: Mark | June 6, 2008 1:20 AM
Amendment:
In my post up above I wrote: "I didn't see that hatred." Obviously, we saw a lot of hateful things thrown out by some people during the primaries. More accurately, I should say, "I didn't pay attention to the hatred." Hate will always play a role in elections, unfortunately. Our role, as Christians, should be to ignore hate and spread love. It really is that simple.
Posted by: Mark | June 6, 2008 1:38 AM
Thanks Jim Wallis!
I watched Obama speaking live at 5.00am and received phone calls from other people in East Africa - asking me to switch on the TV!
It is really exciting for us here (I wonder why). As I watched Obama I kept thinking:
'Outstanding!' and 'Amazing!' And so on ...like Chris Rock's character, 'Mays Gilliam', in the irreverent comedy, Head of State, after he becomes the first black man to be elected US President even though, even in the fictitious account, he wasn't supposed to win!
This is how 'crazy' it seems to me.
Now,
Somebody asked if Obama is a white man with a black father or a black man with a white mother.
I am sure it was a joke but it does say a lot about America, doesn't it?
In Africa our racism works the other way, I think.
A drop of white blood is more likely to see one labeled white, whereas over there a drop of black makes one black, am I right?
In any event the whole question tells me that America really has a racial problem that many choose to ignore.
How could a nation which believes "all men are created equal" be engaged in such word games?
Why should it take 40 years from the end of segregation to a nomination to run for President? After all, in newly decolonized African and Asian countries rule changed overnight from 'white hands' to brown and black ones.
And,
Will Obama win, or, will it turn out to be (like I heard on ''Comedy Central') that the primaries are just Americans "voting for the chance to vote for a black man, but, in November, they'll just decide that a 74 year old white man represents the change they are looking for"?
Alu
Dar es Salaam
Posted by: Robert Alu | June 6, 2008 2:12 AM
Thank you Rev. Jim Wallis for understanding the historical significance of Barack Obama's nomination independent of the politics or the outcome of the vote.
Robert, Carolyn---Is a Constitutional right really a right if it cannot be exercised?
We need to view civil rights in historical context. In his address to a Joint Session of Congress in 1965 on the Voting Rights Act, President Johnson said, "...Wednesday, I will send to Congress a law designed to eliminate illegal barriers to the right to vote...This bill will strike down restrictions to voting in all elections, federal, state, and local, which have been used to deny Negroes the right to vote....But even if we pass this bill the battle will not be over. What happened in Selma is part of a far larger movement which reaches into every section and state of America. It is the effort of American Negroes to secure for themselves the full blessings of American life. Their cause must be our cause too. Becasue it's not just Negroes, but really it's all of us, who must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice.
And we shall overcome." LBJ, March 1965
Paul---What is a race card? I have heard that termed used during this primary campaign and have no idea what it is. Race is not a membership so what benefits does this "race card" give you?
Wendy---Misogyny: a hatred of women. Please give us some examples. I am saddened that you would associate hatred of women with Barack Obama, a husband and father of two daughters. Are you saying that Hillary Clinton lost because most Americans hate women?
judithod---"My understanding is that Obama is not black but bi-racial."
What are his children--Black or bi-racial? In the U.S., Black is defined by having any African ancestry or "Black blood". If you do the genealogy, 75-80% of Black people in the U.S. have whites in their family tree. Are we suppose to redefine ourselves as Bi-racial?
Katie---Churches in America that discriminate against people of color through doctrine would (should!) be fiercely criticized. Yet, there are churches in America who clearly and routinely practice limiting a woman's authority in church and somehow the Christian community is not outraged by this.
Are you arguing that the political competition between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton is somehow rooted in or related to Church and the Christian Community? Can you explain?
Posted by: SJ Brown | June 6, 2008 2:20 AM
Thanks, Jim. Since I left USA twenty years ago to live and work in this wonderful African country of Zambia, I haven't followed US politics that much -- Zambian politics are more interesting! But I'm now following the elections closely, as are many Africans! I taught constitutional law at Hampton Institute in the mid-sixties and felt the legacy of US apartheid, and worked in DC in seventies and eighties, experiencing more of that legacy in social arrangments. When I left US I never thought there would be a time when a woman and an African-American would be top presidential candidates. The sexism of the campaign has ineed been disgraceful. I pray that latent racism won't sway the results for change that this world really needs! God bless the World -- and USA! Pete Henriot, S.J. Lusaka, Zambia
Posted by: Pete Henriot, S.J. | June 6, 2008 3:27 AM
Barack Obama won the Democratic race because he was the best candidate, period. And I say this as someone who would have preferred the policies of Kucinich (single payer and an APOLOGY to Iraq).
Not least important in the rundown with Senator Clinton is the fact that Obama was more loyal to the Democratic Party. To me, Hillary's most memorable quote is the following. "Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign. I will bring a lifetime of experience. And Senator Obama will bring a speech he made in 2002." I can repeat this quote exactly because it was in today's newspaper. The story? Republicans are running a videotape of this speech in their own television ads. Which was inevitable the moment Hillary let it out of her mouth. Has any Democratic candidate EVER praised the Republican over the Democratic rival? This is not a matter of sex or race, it is the obvious fact that Hillary will say ANYTHING to gain an advantage.
And yet there are still Hillary supporters who are so hurt and angry that they will vote (or abstain, which is the same thing) to repeal Roe v Wade, for transferring our school money to millionaires, and for "Bomb, bomb Iran." It is truly wonderful that our two final candidates have been a woman (the time will come) and an African American. But what is at stake here is, at least, our democracy and our national economy, and, at most, the survival of the planet. It is time to get to work to elect Obama. All of us.
Posted by: Laurenceofberk | June 6, 2008 3:47 AM
Why is the focus on race?
Why is the focus on gender?
When conservatives have high powered minorities it is not celebrated. When liberals have powerful minorities we put aside all other issues to point and go on an about how we are finally doing the right thing. Who is race focused again?
It's not about skin color it's about politics pur and simple.
if we had a genius dog that happened to be a conservative politician it would be virtually ignored and played up as a scheme by the "right".
If we had a dunder head liberal dog... well we all should hope to be more like them.
I guess I don't get it...
Sorry Condi, you should have been a democrat maybe someone would have noticed you.
Posted by: erik | June 6, 2008 4:08 AM
I was touched by Jim's article on Obama's success as I was by his achievement in securing the nomination. At the time I watched it on the news (and there has been sidespread coverage here in the UK) I couldn't help thinking what Martin Luther King would be thinking if he could see all this. I'm writing this from my office in Olney, just yards from where the abolitionist and campaigner for racial justice John Newton lived, worked and coined the words 'Amazing Grace' with which Jim ended this article. I'm sure Newton would be applauding too.
Posted by: Andrew Betts | June 6, 2008 4:37 AM
As an American living in an Arab country (Jordan) I cannot tell you how proud I am (finally) of our country with Obama's nomination. Arabs are stunned because there is a shock and disbelief that a black man can run for President in America. There is still much racism here (fueling issues like Darfur) and American has set an example not just for the US but for the entire world. I remember being in college, going to a conference in DC, and stopping at a Howard Johnson's outside the city. Our black students who entered with us were told they had to eat their food on the bus! Fortunately, a wonderful SSND nun, Sr. Frances Therese, a New Yorker, irately told them that then none of us would eat there, and we all left although we had given our orders! We have come a long way, but there is still further to go. Jim's article brought back many painful memories from a 60 something white woman who worked in 'the hood' most of her career, about what it was like, and still continues to be, for blacks in African-American communities.
Posted by: Dr. J. TaylorBasker, Amman, Jordan | June 6, 2008 4:50 AM
See, miracles really do happen. God is doing a new thing. None of us living as a teenages in the 1960's expected to see a black man running for governor of a state as a nominee from a major party; much less, President of the United Sates. Faith, hope, and love; these three abide, but the greatest of these is love.
Posted by: Jim Megrail | June 6, 2008 8:09 AM
I feel excited like many other people upon hearing the news about Obama's victory. Its the change the whole world is looking forward to...
As I was reflecting on the future of America and the world, definitely the PRESIDENT of United States is not the only one responsible for all the mess that we are in. The President heads a team of parliamentarians who decide the fate of the country, and the world.
For many decades, Evangelicals distanced themselves to take up Governance challenges across the globe, and we are left with very few Diplomats who mean business.
Now the Church needs to wake up, and try to tain and mobilize faithful people to take up leadership roles across the Globe. Now, the Church have limited choices in selecting the candidates for the new Congress. If the Evangelicals don't wake up now and train their young people, the future of the world looks bleak.
Thanks
Salathiel R Nalli
Indonesia
Posted by: Salathiel R Nalli | June 6, 2008 8:32 AM
Why is the focus on race?
Why is the focus on gender?
Look at the corridors of power -- and then come back and ask that same question.
When conservatives have high powered minorities it is not celebrated.
And never will be, because everyone knows that they have no real authority -- which is the issue here.
if we had a genius dog that happened to be a conservative politician it would be virtually ignored and played up as a scheme by the "right".
And that would be the truth.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 6, 2008 8:54 AM
Is there any way we can reelect President Bush? He is looking better and better all the time. Just the thought of the totalitarians Obama will put on the Supreme Court and into other judicial seats of tyranny, is enough to wake the founders from the dead.
Posted by: TD Atkisson | June 6, 2008 9:24 AM
A transformational moment.
What has changed?
Hillary was not nominated--so we are still backwards and sexist. If a couple hundred unelected 'superdelegate' insiders switched (or decide to switch)-- would that then mean we have experienced a different kind of transformation?
Would we take back this "we nominated a Black man" transformational moment and have a different one.
Hey, the superdelegates could switch now and we would have had both.
I seriously do appreciate this moment; but I do think it worthy to think about what has and has not changed.
Tears came to my eyes when I saw a picture of Michele Obama campaigning in the run-up to the Iowa caucuses in the all-white county in which I was raised.
I digress to say to Johnnie Skinner that I heard Tom S for the first time in the early 70's while I was in High School. It was in a park in Mason City, IA. I read his books, heard him speak many times, and would listen to recordings over and over. Tom walked with great faithfulness and likely never knew the persons like myself whom he touched.
Think of the great price which so many have paid to overcome a simple, dumb lie about the pigmentation of skin; the cost of the civil war to this nation; the cost of demanding people use separate drinking fountains; the poverty of states who clung to a racist system; the cost to the integrity of the US and the capacity of the church in the US to fulfill its purposes.
It is such a great change to see the nomination of Obama--and yet such a 'nothing change.' It is like a cruel high school clique that drives a peer into depression and suicide for no good reason; then grows up and sees the absolute silliness of how they acted. They carried out great evil for no reason and then give up the reason--"It was nothing."
I must say I agree with those who contend there would be much less of this 'transformational moment' talk if it was Colin Powell, Condeleeza Rice, or JC Watts with a Republican nomination. They would not be seen as legitimate Black people.
Which is ironic because that is what this Democratic Party process demanded of Obama--that he simultaneously prove himself to be a Black man and that he is not a Black man. For this I give him all the credit in the world.
He maneuvered the process so the nation could select a candidate who happens to have darker skin--not seeing him as the "stereotypical Black man." Of course there is no such "composite stereotypical Black man." When we actually get to know the Black co-worker, church attender, or Oprah--they simply become the person they are.
The populace will break out of the racist and sexist stereotypes much faster than the power structure who sees themselves as the vanguard of enlightenment. Jesse Jackson, like Michele Obama, also traveled Iowa in 1984; and garnered much support from the cornfields and hog lots. But there is an elite class (mostly highly educated, liberal, white men in media, universities, seminary faculties, and politics) who beat the low-life up for being backwards, using them as an excuse for explaining why a Black man can't win, etc. etc. etc.
Race will be a bigger factor in this campaign than Obama or McCain wants; and than the broad majority of this nation cares about. It will be hammered and pushed by the media. The groundwork laid in the incessant storyline that late states which supported Clinton were racist.
We continue to dispense with the old superstructure of lies that upheld an unfathomable evil of racism. Yea!!!!!!!!!!!
The work of living out the Truth that set the captives free remains. We have a cloud of witnesses (Tom Skinner being one of them) cheering us on. The Liar is at work today, as every day, seeking to steal and destroy.
Posted by: letjusticerolldown | June 6, 2008 9:38 AM
I must say I agree with those who contend there would be much less of this 'transformational moment' talk if it was Colin Powell, Condeleeza Rice, or JC Watts with a Republican nomination. They would not be seen as legitimate Black people.
That's because the black community itself does not see them as "legitimately black" because they all, in its view, "sucked up" to conservative administrations for the sake of position. Powell was popular among African-Americans only as long as he challenged Bush; when he fell on his sword over the Iraq war there went his authority.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 6, 2008 10:27 AM
Jim - it seems your reflections are more about you than race or God, or faith. about your books, your speeches, your tours, your friends and associates in high places. why?
Posted by: Matt | June 6, 2008 10:30 AM
It resonates with me since I also concluded race is the fundamental fracture in our society and must be addressed if we want real change. I grew up in all white neighborhoods, schools etc right through college. I am a DC native and I knew there was a Black community but rarely saw them. They impinged on us as they began to move into our neighborhood and "white flight" was something I experienced and was part of.
Some years later, ironically, my partner and I re-integrated our neighborhood which was and still is mostly Black. We addressed racism and worked for change directly by creatng nonprofit organization, including Deafpride,Inc. All my work life has been focused on working for justice and change with the Center for Community Change, the Southeast Women's Employment Coalition, Women's TA Project and ResourceWomen, and in my work with McAuley Institute. Through that work I learned the true dimensions of the faultlines in our society and the oppression and injustice lived out by so many in communities across the US. Through that work I have been blessed with the friendship of strong Black, Latino, Native American, Refugee and Deaf women and men as we've worked together in the struggle. The way society was set up, we would never have known each other or met except for our change work and our courage in crossing boundaries. All of us had a vision that sustained us through very painful experiences. I hope Obama does represent a step forward in a dream of peace, unity and justice.
Posted by: Eileen Paul | June 6, 2008 10:32 AM
Barack Obama is NOT a "black" man, whatever that means. Biologically, he is as much "white" as he is "black". He is a mixed race person. Reality is not a binary proposition. My beautiful mixed race daughter loves the more African side of her family just as she loves the more white side, who were all part of the civil rights movement. In the end she is our daughter and a daughter of the human race and a unique person and labels that deny the complexity of her origins are inadequate and dishonest. I understand and share Jim's feelings about this wonderful event in American politics, but race is a biologically meaningless construct and an extremely flexible cultural construct. Racism is a cultural and mental pathology, the effects of which are entirely and completely negative. We will know racism is over when children with non- European ancestry are receiving equal health care and educations as the middle class. Anything less will be either progress, regression or meaningless noise. Barack's candidacy shows progress but is far from signaling the end of racism in our country and may bring out some of the ugly realities of latent racism in America.
While I have much hope of Barack and was elected as a delegate for Obama in my state, I fear a savior mentality among those who stand for a real change of direction. Mr. Obama's recent statements about Israel and about Iran and about military spending are deeply disappointing. It is time to end the macho posturing and war mongering and to stop spending our grandchildren's future on militarism. If he wants change he must convince Americans to spend their money on change, not more of the same. The work of Christians who are standing up for social justice is far from over.
Posted by: jonabark | June 6, 2008 11:04 AM
Now that the "transformational moment" has passed, I can only hope that Obama will explain what constitutes the "change" that he so eloquently promises. His "amazing grace" is that his inspirational oratory buries his lack of experience and expertise. In his speech on Tuesday, he touted his "20 years" of public experience. Those 20 years mainly represent his time spent as a community organizer, but that number was cleverly crafted into a sentence to make Obama appear to have the vision of an elder statesman. Whether Obama is black, red, or white makes no difference to me as a voter. What does matter is his experience or lack thereof as a candidate for president of the U.S. His consistently partisan record and his limited experience as a legislator are facts that need to be acknowledged and are more important than his ancestry. Soaring rhetoric needs to be grounded into concrete explanations of how Obama, if elected president, plans to effect the ballyhooed change on behalf of all Americans. The spin over an historical moment must be replaced by substance.
Posted by: judithod | June 6, 2008 11:11 AM
I'm not so sure it was a 'transformational moment' or an aura of spiritual frenzy I witnessed as I watched Senator Obama give his victory speech the other night. I agree wtih letjusticerolldown's comment that there 'would be much less of this 'transformational moment' talk if it was Colin Powell, Condeleeza Rice, or JC Watts with a Republican nomination. And, I'm not so sure the experience factor really means a whole lot either - Hillary is more experienced, as is McCain for that matter.
That said, I appreciate Jim opening up this forum. This gives a 'compassionate conservative' who strongly believes in social justice, a voice also. Personally, I'm not excited about either presumed candidate.
The kingdom of man is certainly not the kingdom of heaven. Jesus is my King and I need to live day in and day out reflecting this. This is my responsibility and I often come up short. Senator Obama is not the Savior or Redeemer of the US or our world. I am concerned for those who act as if he is.
Posted by: Tim | June 6, 2008 11:32 AM
Thanks for your words, Jim. Like you, I was a 17 when the voting rights act was passed, and I also remember those who gave their lives during the civil rights struggle of the 1960's. The events of the 60's gave me hope that my life as an African American would would be better, but I had not expected to see in my life time, a Black Governor of my own State of Virginia, or a Black Presidential nominee. You are so right, God's grace is, indeed, amazing!!! I look forward to hearing what you will say at Call to Renewal next week. Bill Anderson
Posted by: William Anderson | June 6, 2008 11:32 AM
Thank you for your piece on Obama and this remarkable time in U.S. history. I have been very moved by the words (currently reading Obama's first book) and by the tone of his campaign. I look forward to helping him win the general election.
Posted by: Amy | June 6, 2008 12:09 PM
Ok -- is it just me or has Obama been running for President for months now?
I too am a Hillary supporter, and I doubt I will vote in the fall. Obama is not a great source of hope for me. He message is too vague to move me any more than any other politician in the past.
I'm all for prejudice dying in America -- perhaps it was the Hillary nutcracker that kept me from celebrating this great moment in our nation's history in overcoming prejuice.
Posted by: frankie | June 6, 2008 12:50 PM
I'm not the lest bit interested in Obama's candidacy. Thanks David J for the link on Obama & Israel. Google up Ralph Nader and hear him out on his criticisms of BO. Nader is doing what Jim Wallis used to do but gave it up: holding the feet of both parties to the fire.
Posted by: Kevin Wayne | June 6, 2008 2:18 PM
I would like to address a few comments by several of the posters.
#1 - I must say I agree with those who contend there would be much less of this 'transformational moment' talk if it was Colin Powell, Condeleeza Rice, or JC Watts with a Republican nomination. They would not be seen as legitimate Black people. Letjusticerolldown
I personally have great admiration for Colin Powell and I suspect many black people do as well. Within black-owned media, each one has been lauded and recognized. My feeling is that Powell, Rice and Watts have not been held in the same esteem as Obama because they are seen as carrying the water for others. Colin Powell was the only one of the 3 who looked like he was his own man/woman. That was until evidence started leaking out that his "intelligence" before the UN was cooked. Powell lost a great deal of credibility and stature because of his performance "selling" the Iraq War. Condi Rice seems unable to speak honestly or with total candor. She is a true Bush lackey. Everyone acknowledges her intelligence but she is not a good example of a strong, independent black woman.
#2 - Barack Obama is NOT a "black" man, whatever that means. Biologically, he is as much "white" as he is "black". He is a mixed race person. Reality is not a binary proposition. Jonabark
What you say is technically true but then again, there are very few "black" people in the US who are wholly African. Most of us are mixed race. Black in this country is a cultural and ethnic construct based upon shared history and experience. I come from a family that was identified legally as "mulatto". My great-grandfather and his siblings easily could pass as "white" but they chose to live as "blacks" because of their cultural affinity for the black community. My step-mother's father made the same choice. He was half-Choctaw and half-Irish and grew up in MS. Because he wasn't white, he considered himself as black. That's the same choice Barack Obama has made. He doesn't deny his whiteness, he just chooses to self-identify as black. Since his wife and children are "black" and his skin is darker, it's easier to embrace that cultural/ethnic construct.
That's the Achilles heel of this country. We are more accepting of white cultural/ethnic backgrounds (i.e. Italians, Polish, Germans, etc.) than we are of non-white cultural/ethnic backgrounds (i.e. African-American, Latinos, East Indian, etc.). Because of my Southern roots, I have much more in common with white Southerners than I do with black New Yorkers or New Englanders. But there are some white Southerners unwilling to embrace me solely because of my pigmentation. Enough digressing...
#3 - I can only hope that Obama will explain what constitutes the "change" that he so eloquently promises...Soaring rhetoric needs to be grounded into concrete explanations of how Obama, if elected president, plans to effect the ballyhooed change on behalf of all Americans. The spin over an historical moment must be replaced by substance. judithod
If you still do not know what kind of "change" Sen. Obama is proposing, you are either intellectually lazy or ideologically opposed to the changes he is proposing. Without much effort I can list several changes - 1) get out of Iraq; 2) use diplomacy to talk with our enemies; 3) re-negotiate NAFTA; 4) fund the mandated, yet not funded portions of NCLB; 5) redirect the bulk of our military efforts into finding Osama bin Laden and the al-Queda network. Now, you may disagree with these choices but that doesn't mean he hasn't proposed new initiatives. Also, if you don't think his Senate record is vast enough, then examine his record in the IL legislature. He has an extensive record of bi-partisan support and work in IL. He also voted for the new GI bill, which Sen. McCain did not.
Sen. McCain has many years in the Senate but how effective has he been. Just recently he was questioned about his failure to seek assistance and fact finding investigations on the post Katrina efforts. Sen. McCain has given many patriotic speeches and goes to the green zone in Iraq but he doesn't back up his rhetoric with legislative action. Why doesn't he support veterans for heaven's sake? The "soaring rhetoric" that "needs to be grounded into concrete explanations" should be applied to John McCain as well.
Posted by: Nuttshell | June 6, 2008 2:32 PM
I find it interesting that Obama comes under attack for what he wants to do but there's never a discussion about what McCain wants to do. Apart from staying in Iraq and bombing Iran, what does John McCain plan to do with our country? How's that going to affect our plummeting dollar? If you like how the country is doing, then vote McCain. If you like how the economy is tanking, then vote McCain. Did he vote for an increase in CAFE standards? I realize the automakers whined but that was medicine they needed. Maybe if they had increased the CAFE standards, 4 auto plants wouldn't be closing and thousands of people wouldn't be losing their jobs. Oh, by the way, the uptick in the unemployment rate is the highest jump since '86.
McCain's biggest argument is that while things aren't going well, change is unpredictable and may not work. That's courage for you. I guess he hopes that by doing nothing, something miraculous will happen to turn our economy and our country's reputation around. That's not even a strategy we encourage our kids to embrace. We encourage and exhort them to do things differently when the path they are taking is wrong. Why should we be different with the direction of our country? Most people in this country (81%) believe we are on the wrong track. All John McCain is recommending is either the same track or taking a parallel track. Barack Obama is a fresh face with fresh ideas and he no doubt scares the bejeesus out of a lot of people. Life is an adventure and is not for the weak willed. Hang on because the movers and shakers are not going to wait on the fence-sitters.
Posted by: Nuttshell | June 6, 2008 3:00 PM
Jim, it is a moment in history that marks a turn.
I'm older than you and I watched and marched in
the peace movement, attended prayer rallies and
was sure a change was coming with the leadership of Martin, John and Bobby. Blindness or madness
prevented these leaders from doing the good they
wanted to do. I am thrilled that B. Omaba is the
Democractic candidate! I pray he gets elected.
As for the women venting their disappointment --
if that is what they need to do -- fine. But what
kind of future can we rely on from women if they
refuse to vote or vote for McCain because they
didn't get their candidate? Is that acting like
a mature women/adult? Change has come, will continue to come. Don't act like a sore loser.
We have not lost! We work and struggle with the choices before us and by the blessings granted through 40 years of small and important choices, we have arrived at this moment in history. Women be a part of it. Don't just be a by-stander. It's a great moment. Cherish it.
Posted by: Natalie Dee | June 6, 2008 3:16 PM
"I will once again, swallow my disappoinment and vote for another MALE who purports to hold my agenda, but truly - no one can hold my agenda like a woman."
Can you image me saying no one holds my agenda like a black man? That would be utterly racist. Somehow your statement isn't sexist? Hillary proved beyond a doubt that a woman can run for President and win. She lost the nomination for lots of reasons but being a woman wasn't one of them.
Posted by: Andy | June 6, 2008 3:41 PM
"If you still do not know what kind of "change" Sen. Obama is proposing, you are either intellectually lazy or ideologically opposed to the changes he is proposing. Without much effort I can list several changes - 1) get out of Iraq; 2) use diplomacy to talk with our enemies; 3) re-negotiate NAFTA; 4) fund the mandated, yet not funded portions of NCLB; 5) redirect the bulk of our military efforts into finding Osama bin Laden and the al-Queda network." Comment by Nutshell.
It's precisely because Obama's call for change keeps changing or is not intellectually honest that I'm challenged to decipher what he really stands for. His call to renegotiate NAFTA was only made after he received the backing of the Teamsters and other unions. (And if you've read the writings of economists, you'll know that NAFTA has enhanced the U.S economy.) Obama rails against special interests, but supports the unions' bidding on trade and fat farm bills. As for talking with our "enemies," Obama keeps backpeddling on the dictators with whom he'd engage and under what conditions. The one issue on which he's persisted is removal of troops from Iraq. Yet he has "clay feet" on this too. He opposed the surge and confidently predicted its failure. Yet rather than admit his wrong prognosis, he continues to disparage the gains the troops have achieved and the accomplishments of the Iraqi parliament. Obama calls McCain "inflexible" on diplomacy, while Obama inflexibly calls for troop withdrawals, no matter the success of the troops or the needs of the Iraqi people.
There's no doubt that Obama has an adroit ability to adapt his message to dissatisfaction with the political status quo. He promises to change Washington but that promise must be based on honesty, not hocus-pocus.
Posted by: judithod | June 6, 2008 3:49 PM
I have no idea whether there is any black blood in my family tree, but it wouldn't make a dime's worth of difference in how I feel about the judgments of others toward those of a different race. As a (presumably) white guy born and raised in the South, I have been exposed to the various forms and functions of racism as it has gone from public policy to private "preference". I do not deny the existence of misogyny among the "macho" males—both straight and gay—who believe that a woman's place is (only) in the home and that they have nothing to offer in the way of leadership. However, I do not recall any lynchings or cross-burnings to drive home the point. Most insults directed at women are patronizing references to the fact (?) that "it is a man's world". They seldom contain the kind of invective reserved for those judged to be sub-human by virtue of their race, color, creed, or religion. I have seen Obama accused of being a "closet Muslim" who "hates America". Some have gone so far as to label him as the Anti-Christ.
I must say that it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things spiritual and material. The Bible makes it perfectly clear that no-one will know for sure who that "Man of Sin" is until God chooses to reveal him. And the Bible makes it equally clear that there is nothing anyone can do to prevent him from gaining power over the world's governments. Those who believe that they are doing God's work by voting against someone they personally judge to be the future Anti-Christ just may find that they have voted for the real deal instead. BTW, it is NOT Israel's GOVERNMENT that is under God's protection, but His people (which includes anyone who ultimately acknowledges the Divine Authority of Jesus Christ).
That being said, I must say that I see Barack Obama as more presidential in his demeanor and rhetoric than Hillary Clinton—who vows to "fight" for our rights. Haven't we had enough of the gridlock that leads only to agreement on such historic legislation as National Butterflies Week? Of course, there is also compromise on pork-barrel spending that gives us bridges to nowhere in Alaska and fountains in Beverly Hills.
I believe that Hillary Clinton has done a creditable job as the Junior Senator from New York—notwithstanding the accusations of "lying" about the number of jobs that she would like to bring to Western New York. What more could she have done with a divided Congress controlled by Republicans and a frat-brat with a Messianic complex in the White House? I believe that she may yet play a vital role in changing the "business as usual" mentality of Congress, if she is willing. After all, the bulk of her experience has been in the kind of adversarial politics that has dominated Washington for so long that few can remember a time when statesmen were not branded as "elitist" for using "high-fallutin' words in expressing their hopes for a brighter future.
Posted by: Hermes | June 6, 2008 4:17 PM
"If you like how the economy is tanking, then vote McCain." Comment by Nuttshell
What happened to all those wonderful miracles that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid were going to perform? They and their fellow democrats must share the blame for the tanking economy.
Posted by: judithod | June 6, 2008 5:43 PM
To all of you who are disappointed that Clinton didn't become the first woman President: Did you actively campaign on behalf of Carole Mosely-Braun in 2004? Or even Elizabeth Dole in 2000?
I'd like to see a woman become President, too. But why is it Clinton or no one at all? Why didn't anyone draft Barbara Boxer or Blanche Lincoln or Kathleen Sibelius or Maria Cantwell or Madeline Albright or Patty Murray or Olympia Snowe or Jan Shakowski or Barbara Lee or...?
No, it had to be the one woman who, fairly or unfairly, has the most baggage, the most vulnerabilities, and the most identified with the past.
Get over it. There was misogyny abounding, to be sure, and i share your anger over that. However, the feminist groups (with whom I sympathize for the most part, by the way) should have begun prepping a woman to run for President long ago. Instead, they just waited for it to happen and it was Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: I and I | June 6, 2008 6:18 PM
judithod,
I don't think you understand the purpose of the surge. The surge was to provide the Iraqi government with the time to make political reforms. They have done little to nothing during the past 15 months while our soldiers bear the brunt of the fighting. That's not a good long term strategy.
I'm not going to debate you on each and every issue regarding Barack Obama's plans. You don't like his plans, fine. Tell me what John McCain will do to right the direction of this country? BTW, I never predicted Pelosi and Reid were going to do miracles. The Dems have been in control of Congress since November 2006. They do not have a clear majority in the Senate. If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, the GOP doesn't want to get anything done. That's is their goal. They fight any reform. The GOP had control of Congress from 1994-2006. As a government worker, I know that government is like an ocean liner. It doesn't change course quickly or easily.
One last thing - John McCain believes in health savings plans. I went to the ER 4 weeks ago for an intestinal problem and severe dehydration since I couldn't get into my primary care physician. I have insurance (thankfully). The bill was over $7000 for 10 hours in urgent care and then the ER. I'm sorry but I couldn't save the kind of money it costs to take care of that kind of bill. My co-worker had breast cancer last year. Even though she has "good" medical coverage, she and her husband nearly went bankrupt paying the co-pays on her treatment (surgery, chemo, radiation). I don't believe the coverage paid for the breast reconstruction. If John McCain were to get his way, more people will be bankrupt due to medical bills.
Posted by: Nuttshell | June 6, 2008 7:00 PM
I appreciate your words, Jim. Thank you for so eloquently reflecting upon this momentous occasion in US history. "Who woulda thunk," huh?
Posted by: Tina in California | June 6, 2008 7:21 PM
I want to agree with the many statements you have received and with your own! It is a time which for us to celebrate!
Posted by: R Stephen Jenks | June 6, 2008 7:23 PM
Nuttshell,
I'm the mother of a U.S. Marine officer so I certainly understand the purpose of the surge and also receive firsthand reports. The Iraqis are indeed stepping to the fore. In fact, if you watch Charlie Rose, you would have seen several reporters interviewed in the past few weeks. All have been in Iraq since the beginning and report progress by both the government and the army(even NY Times reporters).
I don't listen to Rush, never have and never intend to do so.
What I appreciate about McCain is that he has a history of thoughtful independence as well as "reaching across the aisle." He definitely is not George Bush, as Obama charges. For starters, McCain served his country!
In regard to health care, McCain proposes using tax credits to shift from employer-based insurance coverage to an open-market system where people coulc choose from competing policies. Obama would retain the existing employer-based coverage and expand government involvement. He does support universal health coverage for those without insurance, but would only require coverage for children.
Posted by: judithod | June 6, 2008 7:28 PM
Generally, I think that we spend far too much time touting the heroism of people who want to change the world rather than focusing on ordinary people who lived quietly but never intended to make any signficant social statement through their actions. The alumni of Hillsdale College, who refused to fight in segregated army units and thus became some of the first people to integrate a government-sponsored organization, are prime examples of such heroism; another hero such hero is a friend of mine who has been a pastor for numerous years but, prior to that (in the 1950s and '60s), was a superintendent of a Southern Baptist church-affiliated school in Maryland. From what I know, he never took part in any Civil Rights marches, but he did threaten to leave the superintendent position if the church with which it was affiliated would not allow a black woman to join when she requested to. Nonetheless, he didn't fight for her acceptance into his church because she was black, but rather because she shared his faith. In short, heroism doesn't require activism but rather action when necessary. A sentiment commonly repeated is that heroes are remembered; this is not so, but what is worse is that most of them are never even known. Nonetheless, I take comfort in knowing that they exist and that, if there is a banality of evil, then there is a form of heroism which serves as a perfect counterpart to it.
Posted by: James Banks | June 7, 2008 2:49 AM
When I was watching "Bush's War" on PBS I found myself growing angrier and angrier as I saw how Colin Powell was being used by the man behind the curtain and his co conspirators. Cheney's buffunery was the stuff of late night comedy but the results were tragic beyond imagining.
If Colin Powell were to run for office I would be inclined to vote for him. He has the bruises to show he understands how badly things can go when ones mission is sabotaged by lunatics. I was embarrassed that an American administration could behave so wretchedly.
But he is not the only one on a long of list of minority appointees who have been used by this administration as the fall guy for their obsessive intentions.
Time and time again I find it insulting that Bush/Cheney have found ways to trick others into doing their dirty work. Its leaves a sour taste in my mouth when Preppy Frat boys misuse the talents of those gifted people who come to government to serve them, and then play innocent, has if they didn't know what their back hand was doing.
It is bewildering that they have such little respect for those who serve them.
My most heartfelt apologies to Collin Powell. I pray that he can turn his disappointing experience with Mr. Cheney and friends into a gift that makes a difference in the world.
With the level of incompetence currently in the White House I find myself in fear of how badly things will become before we can finally put the reins of our country in capable hands.
To some of you Obama may seem to liberal. The rest of you may realize just how conservative he actually is at the core. A most complex person he is. He probably won the nomination because he out middled the Clintons.
But in the face of what may be coming our way (as the Bush admin unravels) what we need more than left or right: is just plain vigorous talent and competence not to mention a sense of ethics and the courage to practice it.
Everything else will be icing on the cake.
Posted by: Ms. Cynthia | June 7, 2008 4:07 AM
AMAZING GRACE. These are the words that so perfectly capture this event. Having grown up in the south I have the identical feelings that Jim expressed.
Posted by: Sam Guyton | June 7, 2008 9:42 AM
Jim,
Thanks for bearing witness. However "being Black" is not what it's about.
Yea, he's got a funny name, big ears, and kinky hair. But he is also a master of the English language and becoming a "wise soul".
It's the charisma, the effect that he has on others, that makes this different. And it's his faith. It's what he sees, the questions he asks, and how he interacts with others.
I've been concerned that the current administration has given "faith in public life" a bad reputation. George W. Bush is a man of faith who doesn't let facts get in the way - I've been worried that we would have a secular backlash.
Instead we have a candidate who embodies Micah 6:8 - Justice, Mercy and Humility before God
Posted by: Roger127 | June 7, 2008 10:09 AM
The Civil Rights Movement shaped me as a young person in southern Louisiana, Jim, so I agree with every word you said here. I will vote for Obama, however, my disappointment in not having a female nominee weights so heavy on my heart that I would ask you to reconsider one statement,i.e., "Nothing could change the image of America more than this [a black nominee]." I believe that our nominating a female president would redefine our image equally, and probably more, than nominating a black man. For over 200 years, we have had male presidents. It is time we had a woman president.
Posted by: Irene Bennett | June 7, 2008 10:54 AM
I'm going to be raked across coals for saying this, but...
This country has been in a position to put a female or black president in office for years. An Obama win is not a victory (nor, certainly, a loss) for racial balance in America, and neither is a loss for Hillary Clinton a setback for women.
Either could have been elected eight years ago. It's just that neither was particularly seasoned. Elizabeth Dole and Alan Keyes ran for the Republican nomination, and both were taken seriously on the merits. On the merits, Dole was uninspiring and Keyes was utterly bananas.
In 1984, Geraldine Ferraro was the vice-presidential nominee. Her ticket was mowed down by a popular president and Walter Mondale, a white male who eventually managed to lose an election in every state.
The real question is whether Obama will make a good president, not whether his race will benefit us in some way. Wallis, and most people posting here, surely think that the former is true.
And he will have the opportunity to make that case. Let's hope we have come far enough as a country that his campaign can do so without reminding us of his skin color.
Posted by: kevin s. | June 7, 2008 5:13 PM
Irene Bennett: It is time we had a woman president.
Having endured 10 long years of Margaret Thatcher in Britain, I advise you, Irene, that changing the gender of the president changes nothing. If presidents do any positive good, it is through their character and their policies.
Better if you wait for your first woman leader until you have a viable candidate who is more like Gro Harlem Brundtland and less like Indira Gandhi.
meurig
Posted by: meurig | June 7, 2008 5:59 PM
Either could have been elected eight years ago. It's just that neither was particularly seasoned. Elizabeth Dole and Alan Keyes ran for the Republican nomination, and both were taken seriously on the merits. On the merits, Dole was uninspiring and Keyes was utterly bananas.
They also brought no one else into the political process that had been frozen out, which is the point. In each case white men were still the behind-the-scenes honchos, especially in the case of Keyes, who as a conservative has never had black support.
The real question is whether Obama will make a good president, not whether his race will benefit us in some way. Wallis, and most people posting here, surely think that the former is true.
What he brings, in part because of his race, is a somewhat fresh alternative to the tired old ideas of the past. Already other nations are largely rooting for him because they too believe it's time for something different.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 7, 2008 6:24 PM
This may be a small matter, but I noticed that you mentioned that you were having some conversation with British parliamentary "ministers" of all three parties (presumably) in the house of commons... Only the government has a cabinet with Ministers, and they are appointed by the Queen upon the recommendation of the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is the member of parliament who commands the confidence, by vote, of the majority of the members of the house of commons (generally held by a majority party). When you lose that confidence, you resign are out.. and that is what happened to Tony Blair ( a majority of his own party wanted him out, and out he went...). The other parties are simply members of the Opposition (generally a party). One of them may be larger than the other, and is considered the Loyal Opposition to indicate its majority of the minority in the house. The opposition parties do not have "ministers" because they are not in the government, although they may have members who "shadow" the appropriate minister and are referred to as the shadow cabinet. There can be many parties in the House of Commons.
I am constantly surprised by the general misunderstanding of the citizenry of the US with respect to the workings of parliamentary democracies. The US constantly looks for a strong man... a "president" to talk to (i.e. Musharraf), and is surprised when a public vote changes the parliamentary government, the Prime MInister changes, and the US is surprised that their chosen candidate is toothless...as the "president" no longer enjoys the support of parliament. Heads of state in parliamentary systems are subject to the advice, information and direction of parliament. Even Cromwell.
Another thing which surprises me is the boldness with which the US proclaims its faith in voting, but is down at the mouth, if not recalcitrant, when an election does not turn out as it expected ( more like wanted). Strange things elections... Hamas in Palestine, liberals in Canada, new antiwar govt. in Australia...
The most troubling thing, to me, is the seeming populist US desire to use the implements of government so that any group can do "more for God" so to speak... the failed and fallible Constantinian bargain with the Church. (Helped to give rise to Islam, after all). In my view we, as Christians, should run the other way from this revanchist Constantinian idea.
Posted by: TP, Washington | June 8, 2008 3:41 AM
"For over 200 years, we have had male presidents. It is time we had a woman president."
Honestly I think the race thing is bigger than the gender thing. That takes nothing away from Hilary and her accomplishments. I am not ignoring the history of gender discrimination either. But I remember racism did not care about gender lines. Many white men and white women took great joy and delight in destroying the black race. So I disagree with your perspective and I can see that Barack's nomination means something greater than merely breaking the glass ceiling. It further signifies the equality of black people to white people. Since racism was America's second great sin (greed being the first) it makes sense that this must be this first.
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Posted by: Payshun | June 8, 2008 10:27 PM
I was feeling rather hopeless this evening. The analysis in these threads and their quality gave me hope and thoughtful grounding.
Posted by: Alan Knight | June 9, 2008 1:45 AM
"They also brought no one else into the political process that had been frozen out, which is the point."
Are you seriously arguing that Barack Obama had been frozen out of the political process?
"What he brings, in part because of his race, is a somewhat fresh alternative to the tired old ideas of the past."
Only because of his race. He brings nothing new ideologically, though he is very ideological.
"Already other nations are largely rooting for him because they too believe it's time for something different."
They are rooting for him because he more closely reflects the ideological landscapes of those countries.
"Why would you get raked over the coals?"
It's a figure of speech. Do you want me to explain it to you?
"To make that mistake would be more egregious than anything you did say."
Yet, you could not resist.
"Honestly I think the race thing is bigger than the gender thing."
Of course.
"But I remember racism did not care about gender lines."
This is the beginning of a terrible argument. I don't have a horse in this race, as the politics of grievance is not my baileywick, but a cursory glance at the Constitution would be enough to cut your argument at the pass.
Posted by: kevin s. | June 9, 2008 1:57 AM
Are you seriously arguing that Barack Obama had been frozen out of the political process?
No, but he's strongly supported by those that historically were -- and conservatives don't like that.
Only because of his race. He brings nothing new ideologically, though he is very ideological.
That's projection on your part -- ideologues believe that everyone is primarily ideological, which is frankly untrue. (I'm not, for openers.)
They are rooting for him because he more closely reflects the ideological landscapes of those countries.
No -- it's because they have come to despise the Ideologue-in-chief.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 9, 2008 9:16 AM
I don't have a horse in this race, as the politics of grievance is not my baileywick,...
Oh, please! You've always complained that the political right always gets short shrift here -- how is that not the "politics of grievance"?
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 9, 2008 9:22 AM
TP,
Please don't confuse Wallis' flawed word choice with general ignorance on behalf of all Americans about Parliamentary systems of government. Either way, I doubt people in the U.K., much less people in Pakistan, understand basic details of the U.S. system either.
When certain Americans get "down in the mouth" when voters in other countries elect particular parties or individuals to office, they're generally not "down in the mouth" about voting, but "down in the mouth" about the foolishness of the choices the voters make. When the Palestinians elected Hamas, Americans weren't upset about voting, they were upset that the Palestinians were so foolish to put an entity in power that was as radical as Hamas is.
I agree with your final comment about Christians or any other religious group trying to take power in order to advance their own faith. A good guide is one shouldn't try to impose one's religion in an area of public policy where you wouldn't like someone else's religion being imposed on you.
Posted by: Eric | June 9, 2008 10:52 AM
The commentary and the comments on this blog astonish me. How many of you, who are so happy that Sen. Obama is the presumptive Democratic candidate, agreed with VP Gore's campaign, that then-Gov. Bush, having only been a two-term governor of Texas, a business executive, and a sports team owner, was inadequately prepared for the office of President? How many of you nodded in agreement with the talking heads who all learned the word 'gravitas' in the same 12-hour period, and used it to describe what Bush lacked, and Cheney 'brought to the ticket'?
What has Sen. Obama done that has prepared him to perform the duties of the office? Where is the evidence of gravitas in him?
Reaching further back, how many of you--again, I'm only speaking to you who are enthralled with Sen. Obama's candidacy--thought Sen. Quail hopelessly inadequate to be 'a heart-beat away', when he couldn't spell 'tomato' correctly? Or how many of you joined the media chorus of shock when candidate Bush could not place an obscure country in Asia? Well, how about Sen. Obama's count of the states: 58? How about his recounting of history, that somehow the march on Selma influenced his conception, some six years previous?
The term, 'chauvinist', has its root in a certain official named Chauvin, who was so resolutely loyal to his superior, that he would spin (as we would say now) any set of facts to put his patron in a good light.
The facts are in front of all of us, but about a quarter of the voting public appears oblivious: Sen. Obama has a half-page resume, good looks, and flowery rhetoric.
Take a look in the mirror folks! That's not clear-thinking good judgment staring back at you!!
Getting Sen. Obama onto the ticket in November is an accomplishment of some kind, but it is not worthy of much praise. It reminds me of the guy in the wheelchair, whom I saw at a healing service, who managed to stand, briefly, during the prayer time for him, but still went home in the wheelchair. In the end, nothing happened that was noteworthy.
Did it ever occur to any of you that if Sen. Obama is elected, and he demonstrates for all the world how hopelessly ill-prepared he is for office, that he will be the LAST minority president for a LONG time?
Placing emphasis on the wrong things will always cause trouble. As I have watched this campaign unfold, that is mostly what I have seen. Sitting on the sidelines, reading Rev. King's famous words, I've wondered how so many people could ignore the very heart of his dream, and focus so much attention on the candidate's color, or the other candidate's gender. He said his dream was that we would ignore color; that we would focus our attention on character, and base our judgment of a person on "the content of [his/her] character."
I pray for mercy for my nation, and for my countrymen.
Posted by: david of fox lake | June 9, 2008 3:56 PM
Jim, I had a few tears come into my eyes as well. I am 62 and remember well the violence. I remember walking with my Southern grandmother in a small town in Mississippi in the 1950's and the Black people stepping off the sidewalk so we could pass. I wondered why they were so polite! I grew up in Rio de Janeiro, so 'black' was not something I was used to seeing as a negative. Now, perhaps we can finally stop hyphenating in a purgative description of our citizens. No more, soon one day, to hear "Black-American" or "Hispanic" or "Asian", but plain old 'American' citizen. That day is coming when we look at character instead of color.
This year brings to mind so many horrors of exactly 40 years ago. Yet, today, I rejoice that the dream Dr. King had has born fruit into reality. Today we stand at a place in Barack Obama, which brings us forward into the reality Martin 'saw' up on that mountain. Today I have hope for that fine young man, Barack, who has in his person all that "Martin, Bobby & John" worked for. Today, I can believe that we can be the USA again, holding up our heads along with the Constitution and Bill of Rights, in the world stage. Hope for who we can be as a people is in Barack Obama, by God's grace candidate for President of these United States of America!
Posted by: Pamela | June 9, 2008 4:00 PM
"When the Palestinians elected Hamas, Americans weren't upset about voting, they were upset that the Palestinians were so foolish to put an entity in power that was as radical as Hamas is."
Sounds like how much of the world saw the re-election of GWB.
Posted by: I and I | June 9, 2008 4:49 PM
"This is the beginning of a terrible argument. I don't have a horse in this race, as the politics of grievance is not my baileywick, but a cursory glance at the Constitution would be enough to cut your argument at the pass."
Why? The Constitution was about enshrining the rich white male power structure. But that was not where it ended as state laws and local laws show. Property could and did pass between white men and white women. White women could and did own land once husbands died, or inherited land from their parents. They also bought and sold slaves so again my argument actually stands, that's if you actually look at American history.
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Posted by: Payshun | June 9, 2008 5:27 PM
Since there have been posts since I submitted mine, I will assume that it was somehow lost. Having read numerous, but not all, other postings, I can't imagine that it was somehow deemed too inflammatory, or in any way disrespectful. If it was, please alert me, so I can edit out the offending passages, yet preserve the significant commentary.
Posted by: david of fox lake | June 9, 2008 5:27 PM
David -- In fact, Barack Obama, who in a former life was a community organizer and thus has worked with "common folk," is far more suitable for the political life than George W. Bush ever was. For openers, Bush owes almost everything in his life, including his political career, to his family connections. Second, he generally operated from a "my-way-or-the-highway" mentality, which was sure to alienate allies and or course did; Obama by his very nature won't do that. And far from being the last minority to seek the presidency, Obama actually has made the template for others to do so, and with younger voters being post-racial it's more likely that more will do so. Furthermore, Obama will be far more respected on the world stage than any conservative Republican precisely because he won't be so enamored of the trappings of power (which was the conservatives' goal from the word go).
Sitting on the sidelines, reading Rev. King's famous words, I've wondered how so many people could ignore the very heart of his dream, and focus so much attention on the candidate's color, or the other candidate's gender. He said his dream was that we would ignore color; that we would focus our attention on character, and base our judgment of a person on "the content of [his/her] character."
That doesn't mean that we simply ignore those things, because (whether we like it or not) race and gender, and how people relate to them, are still highly relevant -- all of us without exception have both a race and a gender, which do affect our relationships with other people.
This is true even in the Scripture -- at my church we're studying the Acts passage about the apostles being so overloaded with work that they decide to hand over the administrative tasks to the neglected "minority" group in the fellowship. And the Scripture implies that no one complained about that.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 10, 2008 12:32 AM
While I agree that this is a miraculous moment in American history, I have to agree with Linda.
It is no more miraculous than if a woman had been nominated. We seem to forget that it wasn't that long ago that the suffragists were alo beaten, jailed, ostracized and murdered because they demanded to be treated as equal human beings and be 'granted' the right to vote.
White women were property of their husbands, not counterparts and while the benefits of white skin in this country cannot be dismissed, lets not dismiss either the benefits of male gender, whatever the color, ethnicity, culture etc.
Obama could have been her VP and gained much needed foreign policy experience before running in 2012.
I am extremely disappointed i.e. discouraged almost to the point of disaffection.
Horrendous, overt sexism brought Hilary down, racism will take Obama down and politics as usual will put Mccain in the White House.
It was their plan all along.
Laura, Monroe, NY
Posted by: Laura | June 10, 2008 11:28 AM
Laura,
I hate to disappoint you, but Hillary's campaign made many fatal errors in the process, too many to mention here but the most important -- and one that Barack Obama exploited -- of which was not building a solid organization in caucus states. You can't blame that on sexism.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 10, 2008 12:26 PM
"It was their plan all along."
Whose plan?
Please read my post of 6/9 @ 3.56 PM.
Almost the same things I said about Sen. Obama could be said about Sen. Clinton. Instead of the Selma march story, we'd have sniper fire in Bosnia, but the same kind of stuff--and a similarly short resume.
There are many reasons for being discouraged that the likely occupant of the White House is Sen. McCain, but that it isn't one of the other two senators doesn't make the list.
My take on "Campaign 2008", as it has been waged since November, 2004, is that we, the People, were doomed from the start to have no substantive candidate, in either party, come this November.
On the Democrat side, as with Republican Sen. Dole in 1996, it was "Hillary's turn". Then Sen. Obama came along: well, so now there's a choice between two light-weights. So, it was a foregone conclusion there would not be a substantive candidate on the Democrat ticket in 2008.
It was a relatively easy matter to assure there would not be a substantive candidate on the Republican ticket: make sure none will want to run.
The focus of media and Democrats has been on how much the country needs the Democratic Party to govern it, and to play up every possible hint of a negative about Pres. Bush and his policies, going back well before the 2004 election.
Since this was 'Hillary's Year', the Republican primary was set up to be a side-show, and one which the media played puppeteer with.
Look at the field at the start of the primaries. There was no one with the credentials Pres. Bush brought to the 2000 campaign. Do you suppose the environment for the campaign, which was largely created by the media and the Democrats, looked like shark-infested waters? The term 'meat grinder' comes to mind.
Only media-darling Sen. McCain stood a real chance, as it became clear the media wanted a Republican candidate who was either not a 'real' Republican, or one who was on the fringe. A fringe candidate would have no chance in a national election, and a RINO would probably lose, but be tolerable, if elected.
So, here we are.
May God have mercy on us.
Posted by: david of fox lake | June 10, 2008 1:04 PM
I and I,
That's another good example that proves my point. The people around the world who were disappointed at the re-election of GWB weren't "down in the mouth" about representative democracy, they were down in the mouth about Bush getting re-elected.
Posted by: Eric | June 10, 2008 1:54 PM
Look at the field at the start of the primaries. There was no one with the credentials Pres. Bush brought to the 2000 campaign. Do you suppose the environment for the campaign, which was largely created by the media and the Democrats, looked like shark-infested waters? The term 'meat grinder' comes to mind.
To blame this on the media, of which I am a part, and the Democratic Party ignores the reality that the conservative movement by and large is a spent force with no real answers -- that should have been clear with the election results from two years ago -- because conservatives from the start were interested not at all in actually governing, only in staying elected to push people around to puff themselves up as all that. (There's a reason Karl Rove left the White House.) In fact, if conservatism were actually as legitimate as you believe and say it is this blog wouldn't even need to exist.
Posted by: Rick Nowlin | June 10, 2008 2:01 PM
Laura,
Racism will not bring Obama down. Sexism did not bring down Hillary. Has it ever occurred to you that internalized campaign issues, pandering to get votes (the gasoline holiday,) not having her voice till the end of the campaign and the fact that people are mixed about the Clintons brought her down? Every candidate has faced being counted out of the race. Look at McCain a year ago no one thought he would even be in the running. Was it ageism that played to his favor or hurt him? Obama being black is an asset, because it brings an experience that has never has existed before in the white house.
As I recall it was the suffragists that left the freedom movement for blacks not the other way around. There is a long history of blacks and white women working together to end injustice, whether we had the Grimke sisters and Victoria Woodhull or Frederick Douglass and other men. As a matter of fact Frederick Douglass was Victoria's running mate, I think it's time we flipped the script a little bit. I don't feel like black people are entitled to this high office. But I wonder if you feel that white women are entitled?
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Posted by: Payshun | June 10, 2008 4:55 PM
Mr. Nowlin: as a member of the media, you, more than most, should be able to distinguish between Republicans and conservatives. I am surprised that you confuse them.
We conservatives were apalled at the conduct of Republican office-holders, when we saw them begin to out-pork the porkers, and to set about building themselves a self-perpetuating empire. That was Washington-style politics, but that was not conservatism.
The electorate in this country have consistently voted conservative, when that has been an option. If we look at the presidential elections of the much-touted Pres. Clinton, we see that he never had a majority of the popular vote: the majority voted conservative, but was split between two candidates.
In 2006, the Republican incumbents lost their seats for being pork-barrel politicians, not for being conservative. In fact, the Democratic Party's Congressional Committee did a pretty consistent job of running conservative-leaning Democrats to upset those incumbent Republicans. Democrats voted for their own, and conservatives voted the incumbents out of office. It's no more complicated than that.
Conservatism will never be out of ideas, as you suggest, because the fundamental notion of individual freedom and responsibility, together with an understanding of market forces, is the well-spring of all sound public policy.
It is not a dearth of conservative ideas for dealing with the challenges of society that gives rise to blogs such as this one. Good-hearted people will always disagree. Your comment,
"In fact, if conservatism were actually as legitimate as you believe and say it is this blog wouldn't even need to exist."
overlooks the obvious: whatever anyone holds up as TRUTH is not going to win universal acceptance.
Surely, I don't need to provide you with examples.
Your post also contained this:
Republicans "...from the start were interested not at all in actually governing, only in staying elected to push people around to puff themselves up as all that."
Hmm. Well, let me leave you with this thought. We are already getting an indication of what the Democrats have planned for the country, should they win the White House, and extend their hold on Congress to include a 60-seat Senate majority. One of the top priorities is to shut-down conservative talk radio, under the guise of fairness. That strays pretty far from focusing on governing, it would seem, and gets pretty close to being focused on staying elected--wouldn't you agree?
If it goes that way, the mid-term elections of 2010 should prove interesting.
Posted by: david of fox lake | June 10, 2008 6:34 PM
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