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Rocketown’s Black Dahlia Murder Show: give me your recaps of the show!

posted by Joanne Brokaw | 10:16am Wednesday October 28, 2009

Blackdaliamurder.pngSince I’m in NY, I wasn’t able to attend last night’s show at Rocketown with The Black Dahlia Murder, Toxic Holocaust, Skeletonwitch and Trap Them. And Keith didn’t make the show either. (That is a bummer; I was looking for a recap of the show.)
One thing I’d like to say is that I feel badly that the discussion about Rocketown veered so far off base and turned into an Us vs Them finger pointing tirade.
I think it’s appropriate, on a Christian music blog, to talk about a Christian ministry booking bands with a clear anti-Christian message and discuss where we cross the line when we reach out in ministry. I think most folks who know anything about Rocketown would agree that there is ministry that takes place there, that it’s a great, encouraging, safe place for kids – and if you didn’t know that you heard stories from the kids themselves.
At the same time, there are some of us were like … what? Those bands at Rocketown? And wanted to know more about why they’d book them.
I did try to contact Rocketown as well as one of the bands. But to no avail.
So I’ll ask you: tell me about the show last night at Rocketown. If you’re in the band, how was the experience? Did you mind playing at a club with a mission to share Christ’s love? If you’re a fan, did the chatter on this blog influence your decision to go or not go? Was it what you expected?
Since I couldn’t be there, it’s up to you, my friends, to give me the report!
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Skeletonwitch Fan

posted October 28, 2009 at 1:15 pm


I’ll just say that Rocketown’s most important action, from a Christian standpoint, was proving that not all Christians fit the stereotype displayed by Keith Mohr and others in the comments on previous posts.
Also, Keith, you couldn’t be bothered to show up after all your grandstanding? What a coward.



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Keith Mohr

posted October 28, 2009 at 2:40 pm


It is my hope that all of you who are reading this are as passionate about your relationship with Christ as you are about your defense of Rocketown, music, and freedom.



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Dara

posted October 28, 2009 at 10:26 pm


Will you please remove the hateful comments targeted at Keith Mohr and his family members? Whether you agree with him or not, the man is entitled to his opinion and I don’t see where he was was directly hateful or threatening toward anyone. Comments that are personal attacks need to be removed. Please show some decency Beliefnet, and God help and forgive us all for our pettiness. Let’s put an end to this.



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jonowev

posted October 29, 2009 at 5:48 am


I’m pretty sure that most of the kids who went couldnt give a damn whether the venue is Christian or not – they just wanted to see some good bands.



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Joanne Brokaw

posted October 29, 2009 at 9:02 am


Dara, comments and posts are up for good, unless they violate the Beliefnet terms of service. I do check the comments and will have a moderator go over them, too.
Joanne
host of the Gospel Soundcheck



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Dara

posted October 29, 2009 at 2:18 pm


Beliefnet needs to read its own terms of service.
The fact that these verbal attacks are allowed is sad.
I’m finished with Beliefnet.
Read beelzebub and black dahlia fan’s posts, then read this…
Prohibited Content includes, but is not limited to Content that, in the sole discretion of Beliefnet:
1. is patently offensive and promotes racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind against any group or individual;



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Joanne Brokaw

posted October 29, 2009 at 6:38 pm


Dara, like I already said I’ve asked the moderators to look at the comments to see if any of them violate the terms of service. If they do, they’ll be taken down. There are hundreds of comments to go through. So take a deep breath, OK?
Joanne
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Venom

posted October 30, 2009 at 11:22 am


funny Dara,how in the other post about this show Keith attacks non believers and no one calls for a removal of his post yet when we say something about him, you want it removed. that’s hypocritical, if it should apply to one,should apply to all. funny how Joanna has gotten away with slandering this bands by labeling satanic and no one has said a word about it, but that’s the faithful for you. this whole thing with both post about this show has turned allot of people away from Christ cause they see you believers for what you really are, the anger and hate mongering for those that aren’t like you and when its thrown back,you whine and complain. do the rest of us a favor,save your sermons for Sunday morning and stay inside your churches, if we wanted to hear your message, WE’D ASK!!!!



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spit

posted October 30, 2009 at 12:14 pm


oh shut the hell up venom!



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Joanne Brokaw

posted October 30, 2009 at 12:44 pm


Guys, can we all just take a deep breath here?
First of all, I called the bands “sataic” and based on the lyrics and quotes I”ve read in the press, I don’t think that’s an unreasonable label. Certainly that label was meant as a describer of the music, not a personal attack on the people. (For the record, I did try to contact the bands.) If you read all of the posts you’ll see that I confess to being on the fence about this issue; I can see both sides but was certainly confused by the line up at what I always thought was a Christian venue. As a Christian music blogger, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to raise the issue for Christian music fans to discuss.
Second, there has been a lot of angry back and forth from commenters on BOTH sides of this discussion, and it’s fueled a lot of emotion. Beliefnet has terms of service that you have to agree to before you can comment. I’d recommend reading them carefully, if you haven’t already.
Lastly, there is a community at Bnet that moderates comments. As the blog host, I try to keep up with the comments but if there is any question the Bnet moderators double check them for me. That’s what they are doing now. There have been comments on BOTH sides that were questionable; I had to remove one comment from one of the Chrstian commentors because it posted personal information about someone, including a cell phone number. The cursing isn’t necessarily a violation of Bnet terms. I generally tend to let the comments stand whenever possible, unless there is a clear violation, but rest assured that the folks at Bnet who are in charge of this will handle it appropriately.
My suggestion would be that everyone take a breath, and think before they comment. That’ll save both sides from inflaming an already heated issue, and from putting something out there you may later regret.
Thanks
Joanne
host of the Gospel Soundcheck



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Sorry Joanne

posted November 9, 2009 at 10:06 pm


but what you said was wrong and biased on your personal feelings, if you weren’t a christian you know you would have not mentioned anything about them being satanic so don’t play it off as if your faith didn’t have a part in it. you can not just go on lyric quotes and other things in the press. all these bands are all labels big enough to have PR departments that handle press questions and requests. what you did is cause more attention to your post and to the bands by labeling them something you would know that would cause controversy.
what you need to realize is that these bands are at the point where their careers are playing music so what if by your article and all the negative press and protesting causes a christian promoter, not a venue; someone who has personal faith, and doesn’t book said bands and they lose money, money they need to pay bills and support families while they are out on the road. how would you feel if someone wrote something untrue and caused you to lose your job or out on some money you have worked hard on.
i don’t see why you had to reinforce the satanic issue so much when could have just said a night of secular metal or something. maybe you should have taken a breath and thought more about the repercussions your article could have before posting it next time.



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Ryan

posted August 31, 2011 at 2:02 pm


I’m sorry… how would you refer to bands who prominently desecrate Christ and attack Christianity in their lyrics ? Is it a coincidence that Satan himself epitomizes the message in these kinds of lyrics ? The band members may not be satanic, but their lyrics are hellish at the minimum. Therefore, it is not suprising that the satanic label is thrown at them. A label that is more just than unjust, given these lyrics.



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jon cole

posted January 26, 2012 at 11:42 pm


Ive read two of the blogs that this site have posted to a supposed Christian site and I don’t see where striking up argumentative subjects that are contrary to Gods Holy,inerrant word.His word is not up for argument.I’m a youth pastor and its sad to see these stories that are nothing less than confusing to kids that are searching for something to hold onto to give them hope that not everything the world says is normal has to be their normal.stop your twisting of the Word to fit all these ridiculous and dangerous lifestyles



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