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Borat: Where Do I Begin?

Monday November 6, 2006

Categories: Movies
I guess every discussion of Borat--the character brought to life by Jewish comedian Sacha Baron Cohen and the film featuring that character--has to begin with that pivotal moment in country-western anti-Semitism, "Throw the Jew Down the Well." We could discuss,...
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Sebastian
November 6, 2006 6:20 PM
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Ok, the kids knew all the words. But how do you (or your friend) they had appropriated the song as personal philosophy, and weren't just treating it as legitimate comedic entertainment? Is it because they were Gentiles? They were, presumably, about to go see "Borat," and so, also presumably, were in on the joke. (I think these presumptions are at least as likely as the presumption that they're cutting-edge anti-Semitic Borat groupies, who fail to grasp the levels of irony at work in the character).

Yahya Bergum
November 7, 2006 8:47 AM
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Esther Kustanowitz' review seems too open-minded. Evidently it's now fashionable to express virtually any sort of anti-Semitic notion no matter how offensive. That is as long as you're a Jew pretending to be a Muslim while doing so. What's more it seems there's even a lucrative market for such material depending on who appears to be profiting from it and whom they appear to be mocking. But please don't expect me to remain vocal in opposing anti-Semitism after seeing how charitable its victims are towards those who propagate it (depending on the circumstances).

Lisa R
November 7, 2006 2:48 PM
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Through his Borate character Cohen is highlighting how ignorant people have to be to buy into bigotry of any sort. The character of Borat can be from any country and of any religion, that is not the point. He isn't celebrating anti-semitism, sexism, etc in this movie, he's showing how ugly these things are and that contrary to what some people would love to belive, hate and ignorance is alive an well in the United States.

jeff jenkins
November 7, 2006 8:29 PM
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I'm going to see the movie tonight, although I've seen enough trailers and earlier alli-g shows to know the Borat character. He's actually just the instigater in these live theater moments, the real star, the real buffoon, is the person he's talking to. We laugh not at Borat, but at the idiot he's talking to. Just the fact that they don't realize they are being put on is the heart of the joke, and the longer they don't realize it, the funnier it is.
The Americans caught on tape being so frigging stupid they know so little of the world that they are willing to believe people drink fermented horse urine (rather than fermented horse MILK) is hysterical. I'd like to believe that for every gullible idiot he interviews there are tons of out takes of people saying "Dude, you've got to be kidding". That Cohen does all this with a straight face, so sincerely, is a credit to his acting and improvising skill. Oh, and by the way, I'm a Jew too, although not a religious one, and I'm not offended by him. I'm amused!

Aharon
November 7, 2006 8:53 PM
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Great review!

Paula
November 7, 2006 11:12 PM
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While I enjoyed your review, I pretty much disagree with the idea that Borat is any sort of mirror. First, I don't believe the scenes were spontaneous. I mean, come on, the camera guy was right there! Second, many of the scenes were just "banana peel" type humor and had no cultural revelations whatsoever (antique shop, forex). Third, the actual revelations were underwhelming: wow, there are some bigots in the South. What a shock. It's a generally amusing film, no question, but I think U.S. reviewers are making too much of it.

Anonymous
November 8, 2006 4:22 AM

Forget about "Throw the Jews Down the Well" song, the most disturbing piece from the Ali G Show is one, in which Baron Cohen is not even Borat, but Bruno, and the people that Bruno was interviewing just blurted out anti-Semitic comments for no reason whatsoever and no prompting at all from Bruno. Chilling.>

Autumn
November 8, 2006 6:38 AM
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As a 17 year old I fear the implications of this film on my generation. To be honest, the kids from this generation aren't too bright and tend to glorify immoral things. The example you cited of the teens singing the "Throw a Jew Down a Well" doesn't surprise me but does horrify me. Borat in teen eyes is likeable in a sense, and teens will want to mimic his behavior and outrageous language. They're more focused on looking "cool" than any sort of redeeming "social mirror." I just fear a bunch of outrageous, hateful sounding memes springing from this without people realizing their true meaning.
However, my friend and I will be seeing it this week, and I think those who are mature in my age group will benefit greatly from this film and have an overall good time.

Jim Allen
January 5, 2007 2:34 PM
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There is always a trade-off with new ideas or perspectives as to the benefit or damage they cause. The then-pornographic book "Tom Jones" increased the number of regular book readers in England ten-fold after it was published and led to the first public libraries where people could rent the book rather than having to buy it. The porn web-sites were the major source of "leading edge" technology as to pop-ups and internet advertising. It is always hard to determine whether discussing a controversial concept is "good" or "bad." As Woody Allen said in 'Deconstructing Harry', "Don't talk about numbers, referring to the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust, "when you talk about numbers, people will always try to surpass that figure."

Jewessjen
March 3, 2007 12:28 AM
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You said; "But another friend of mine saw it in a different neighborhood, and he reports having been one of only a few Jews in the audience." How exactly was your friend able to tell who the Jews were? That concept, of 'just knowing who the Jews are' scares me more than anything Borat could come up with. Sick.

anya
March 20, 2007 6:28 AM
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actually i found in the end that borat portrayed jews rather nicely. the character of borat is very antisemitic, but it is telling that the only jews actually portrayed in the movie are the pillar of kindliness and generosity. borat is showing that antisemitism is unfounded.

Ed Schwartz
June 10, 2007 5:30 PM

Man, this movie is funny and it is a satire but lets face it some of it had to be faked. I mean come on, if you or I ran through a Marriott or a Holiday Inn during a large convention, naked, they'd throw our naked ass in jail.

Also if you or I tackled Pamela Anderson at a book signing, we'd wouldn't be removed by "security", we'd be locked up in the LA jail.

So take it for what it is, a complete satire, but is Cohen taking advantage of his jewish tradition by using anti-jewish humor? Its a double standard, jews can make fun of each other because they are jews, but if a non-jew does the same its considered antisemitism.

I supposed in a perfect world racial & religious stereotypes and humor have to go away before the general population can achieve the goal of a completely non-prejudiced and non-hate-filled world.

DanTheBand
September 22, 2007 12:20 PM

If the Borat character had been portrayed by a non-Jew, it would have been an outrage. As it is, I found it hilarious in the context of "stupid" humor. Borat's attitude towards Jews, as well as his attitude towards women in general and Pamela Anderson in particular take ignorance to a level that is really funny.

windbender
July 2, 2008 10:37 AM

Booshaka. Respect.

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