Video: Jon Voight in 'September Dawn'

I am an x mormon. I am very happy to see this horrendous tale come to light. Perfect timing. Thanks to Jon who braves the waters of this changing land to get this message out. Our 2008 elections are better for it. But, make no mistake. There is no one running for office, in a front runner status, including Romney and Clinton - who have the best interest of the people at heart. But, of one thing I am sure. This movie is a god send at the right time.

I plan to see this movie. Everyone is talking about it.

Personally.........
I nver cease to be AMAZED at how "organizations" want opinions
"couched/or stated".I doesn't matter what people "think, believe, or
desire to express.........it must be said "your way !!"

"hereit is"....this is "purr-fect LIBERAL-RESPONSE-TIMING" to raise

DOUBTS, HOIST NEGATIVITY, AND BEGIN AN AMBUSH OF "M-R's"bid for the
white house (gray/charcoal??). Personally I DEPLORE 99.9% OF THAT WHICH
EMINATES FROM THE "HOLLYWOOF MENTAL SLUM". THE DEGRADATION OF MENTAL CAPACITY
TO THINK AND BEHAVE MORALLY, HAS BEEN TRANSPLANTED FROM SODOM&GOMORAH
TO THAT GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN THE (OTHERWISE) SOVREIGN "STATELESSNESS"
OF CALIFORNIA.......A POX ON THE FACE OF THIS OTHERWISE "GRATE-ed"
NATION.......

ANYTHING (SLANDEROUS for a buckeroo ???).

PURPOSE ? OBJECTIVE ? MESSAGE ?
AS OF YET, i AM NOT A SUPPORTER OF ROMNEY.......I AM EVEN LESS OF A SUPPORTER OF THIS "SUPPOSEDLY GUILELESS" ATTEMPT TO

SUDDENLY......"EDUCATE US ABOUT OUR HISTORICAL FOOT (PAW)
PRINTS !!!!!

JUDGEMENT WILL BE PARSED BY THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS PROMISED IT.

FURTHER SHAME ON ALL WHO PARTICIPATED;
WHATEVER THEIR (SUPPOSED) INTENT......

I TRUST THE FINANCIAL REWARDS (?) WILL MAINTAIN A MODICOM
OF COMFORT........WHEREVER "THEY" LAND.

JAN

I am always suspect about anything that comes out of Hollywood,after all they are known for their Liberal leanings. Everything lately is Liberal Bent from there so my reply is "get bent" Iam more against them and I don't need their worthless Movies that are pure evil.Why would I want to pay for something that is for political reasons.The past is past and need only to beremembered for lessons to prevent reoccurence.Situation is no longer revelent.
Bob Moseley Sr.

My great great grandfather said they ate the cows and the horses after MMM. We had to eat too you know. The white man took away everything we had. However the Mormons gave us guns to protect our selves.

While Mountain Meadows is a sad page in Mormon history...there is more to the story. Put this in the context of what the Mormons had just been through. Killed, raped, and forced out of their homes in the dead of winter - to watch their children, woman and men die along the trail. They had the temple that they so long sacrified for burned. They had the leader of their church murdered in cold blood. Their properties confiscated...and were not allowed to practice their religion in peace. Did the movie show that????

What the movie also did not depict is that they were being tautned by the passers by with more promised of being killed. Now, I don't know if they had not taunted the Mormons as they passed by, if this would have changed the outcome. Maybe not, in light that the Mormons traveled so many miles to get away from persecution. Then when they think they are safe - along come persecutors. Perhaps the taunting the shouted promises of more violance to Mormons was just the fuel to ignite already burning embers.

The apostels even in Jesus time did not always react the way He wanted them too. A Roman guards ear was cut off, Jesus still healed His future jailor and persecutor. The Mormon church does not preach violence. But, we do believe in the right to protect your life.

It's easy for me to sit in my cozy house and wish they had not acted before they were acted on. But, I can't.

Also, what surprised me about Belief Net - is that they put an Anti-Mormon "ficticious film" up on the Latter Day Saint music spot. Do they put up a film trailer for DiVinci Code on the Catholic site? - how about an inflmatory anti-Muslim film? I was really surprised by this - I expected tolerance and fair play over here. How about putting up Journey from Navoo? Or the Work and the Glory? Please don't let prejudice and ignorance rule this site. The whole concept is wonderful, and it is tainted by putting the worst history rather than the best forward. At the very least - show both sides. And wonder - why didn't the Native American's kill the Mormon? Why did they like each other and help each other? They lived together in peace.

Jesus forgives us ALL. And loves us all. He is not a repector of persons.

I can not believe how a country founded on freedom of religion has let the persecution of mormons to continue and you don't see the aclu stepping in anywhere do you. This persecution is the reason I looked into the religion and a year later I was baptised a member of JESUS CHRIST of LATTER DAY SAINTS , with great pride I add my name to the list of ever growing LDS members word wide .T here is an average of 800 baptisms a day I what a wonderful thing .

"September Dawn" may not be the greatest film ever made and it may have a lot of people upset, but there are still current day issues connected to this that may eventually have to be addressed.

1.) Brigham Young denied any involvement the the attack, yet John D. Lee (the REAL Bishop of Cedar City who orchestrated the event) was like a son to him. Yet President Young turned him in as the only guilty party who was the only person convicted and executed for the massacre. There are some of Lee's descendents who have never gotten over this. If there's one thing the LDS Church is good at is teaching unquestioning obedience. It's just unbelievable that John D. Lee acted under his own authority and without Young's blessing.

2.) There are many relatives/descendents of the victims who to this day would like to exhume the remains of their dead and give them a decent burial. Yet the monument dedicated to the disaster by no accident sits on LDS Church property and covers the victim's remains. The LDS Church has not allowed anyone to remove the bones. There is some dispute as to exactly how many people were on that wagon train and how many were children. Only 17 children were retrieved by the U.S. Army. Some say there might have been as many as 20 that were adopted into LDS homes. Without retrieving the remains and DNA testing, those relatives will never know exactly what happened to all the young survivors. Don't you think they deserve an accounting? We put a lot more effort into accounting for the victims of the World Trade Center disaster (Where there was little hope of finding much) than we have in accounting for the victims of the MMM, even when we KNOW remains exist. Go Figure!!! Just what is being covered up? If we're going to compare one terrorist event with another, let's be even-handed about it.

3.) There is no evidence that the massacred wagon train did or said anything to provoke the attack. Their only crime may have been that they were from the same part of the world as some of the LDS persecutors. They were also known to be one of the wealthiest wagon trains of the era. Witnesses attest to people wearing the victim's clothes and jewelry around Salt Lake City. When we read of Joseph Smith telling his followers to gain their inheritance from the gentiles (all non-LDS) what are we to make of this? Does this reframe our understanding of the tense relations between the LDS and the non LDS?

4.) It's hard to believe that the release of this movie wasn't timed to coincide with Mitt Romney's candidacy. He's in a bind: To appear to be a good conservative Republican, he must profess strong religious belief; yet when questioned about his beliefs, he's evasive. Perhaps it's because of the secret nature of the LDS faith that he can't publicly divulge much. I feel sorry for him. It undermines his credibility.