Ex-Scientologist, Actor Jason Beghe to Idol Chatter: 'Scientology is Not a Religion'

Jason Beghe speaks the truth.
And now a multi-agency Federal investigation in to scientology is underway.

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I was once interested in what they taught but when I was told how much it would cost me to find "piece of mind", I told them that if I had that kind of money to trough away, I would already have piece of mind. Scientology is nothing more that a money making scam that destroys lives.

My brother-in-law lost his family because of it (before he became my brother-in-law) and he didn't connect with his children or grandchildren until they also woke up to the fact that they were deceived by this cult.

Thanks for interviewing Jason. The reason, I concluded, after almost 3 decades in the staff ranks of Scientology (I was "Sea Org" from Dec 1975 until March 2003), that Hubbard's Scientology promises and hypes itself as being able to produce super-people, the "Clear" and the "Operating Thetan." Scientology has the "lower grades" and the "upper levels" with the plateau of "Clear" being in the middle of these two sets of "spiritual" rungs in the ladder, the so-called "Bridge to Total Freedom." There are sadly, no super-people. People who were essentially good people to begin with, who continue to carry through life and continue to "grow up" and become more mature and able just like any other group of people anywhere. But the "Clears" and "OT" people, they are NOT super-people, they are NOT able to fly out of their bodies exterior and go sailing off across the universe, which was what my impression of the abilities that are supposed be gained, the "out of the body" controlled "pure soul" abilities, that so many other mystical and eastern religion groups also hype and promise, but likewise NONE of these groups in human history have delivered the goods. Since getting out, I've learned in India there are groups that expose the mystical hype of the Indian mystics. My mistake, was believing that there were a whole group of these human groups, and that Scientology was only just another variety, that actually was able to make people into pure souls who had spiritual powers to leave their bodies at will. This is not so, this is hallucination, group agreed upon delusion. Scientology is a fraud and con activity because it does not in reality deliver the spiritual goods, and neither does any other group in the world in human history, so Scientology is just a modern mystical con job operation. My expertise was in the authoritarian administrative system, since I was an advanced staff member dupe, inside the movement in my almost 3 decades in the movement. Thanks to Jason for being so clear in explaining the Scientology mess. Chuck Beatty, ex staffer (1975-2003), Pittsburgh, USA, 412-260-1170

I remember the old commercials for 'Dianetics', with the animated volcano and the promise of being...something...it was supposed to do something for you. I picked up the book at a sale one day, and leafed through it. Even in my most self-helpful days, I thought it was crap...and I was a Hubbard fan to some degree.

In b4 OSA cries "Religious Intolerance". Nope, Money Hungry Hypnosis Cult Intolerance. If Anonymous was a hate group, MANY factions and groups would rise to counter it, none have, because they know Scientology is a cult. IMHO Anonymous is being very nice to this cult.

Jason Beghe is courageous to be outspoken against the corporation of scientology. Scientology has a practice of "Fair Game" it uses to punish those who disagree with it. Hubbard said, "Never fear to hurt another in a just cause." Scientology is a dangerous, extremist cult.

Hey Gene,
It's funny that Beghe would try to use attacking Scientology to garner fame for himself by making all the exact same accusations that tens of thousands of other ex-scientologists have made. You'd think that if you wanted to draw attention to yourself, you'd say something different and new. Beghe's accusations fall clearly in line with what just about everyone says when they leave the church after having been a member for a while. Which do you think is more likely, that thousands of former members are conspiring to bring down Scientology for some reason, or that what they're saying is actually truthful?

Unless you yourself are a Scientologist, the answer is obviously the latter.

Stevee, is Scientology really helping you to win more freedom by making you go out on the Internet to attack it's critics?

Stevee, is Scientology really helping you to gain more freedom by making you go out on the Internet to attacks it's critics?

Lots of Bob Dobbs post criticism opinion. But notice they don't say, "I'm a critic". Heh. Mr. Dobbs is very willing to tell anyone else they are not a regular human being. Since I'm not employed by, or even know anyone who works with, the Office of Special Affairs, and since I'm not attached to Beghe and have never met him, I'll just post up my opinion here. Beghe appears to me to be pretty uptone and capable -- on the first dynamic. That is, on an island of 1000 people, Beghe is likely to do well. But that leaves 999 people who won't be helped by Beghe. My guess is, he's got a fine, stable first dynamic that he's happy with. But he would he like to find other people doing as well as he? Because when you come down to it, that is what the OT levels are all about.

Mr. Beghe shows great courage to get away from, and speak out against this cult.

And cult it is. Ever see a 'church' pay commissions to members when they get another 'into the fold'? $cientology does.

Ever see a $cientology soup kitchen? NO, and you never will, their 'doctrine' states that homeless, needy people are 'downstat' and to be ignored. Only go after those with Buck$.

What kind of 'church' charges upwards of $300,000.00 to find out that we are all infected with space cooties? $cientology does.

Lots of religions are cult like...and get very unhappy when folks leave. JW being one. However, short of harming him, what can the science dudes do to those that leave?

Pagansister, please read up on Scientology. First off, Scientology has nothing to do with science. Second, Scientology has an exceptionally well-documented history of stalking and harassing its critics. That's only the beginning. Spend half an hour at this site: http://www.xenu.net or this one: http://www.youfoundthecard.com or even this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversy

Thanks for interviewing Jason Beghe. Jason is a breath of fresh air - honest about how he got sucked in and not afraid to say so to the world. When we think about challenging a "religion" or a "church", many of us have a natural check that holds us back. But we should be able to hold religions (churches) accountable to HIGHER standards of conduct, not be excusing them for frauds and abuses that we wouldn't accept in secular businesses.

Scientology needs transparency, honesty and an infusion of justice adminstered by law enforcement.

Well I'd like to thank anonymous and Jason Beghe, without them I would have never left this cult. Thank you guys!

watch Jason's full interview here
http://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=KHb0BZyF5Ok

Scientology doctrines teach followers that they are the harbingers of judgment, and it is the mission of every Scientologist to "clear" the planet. Alarming and immoral methods are authorized, according to Scientology teachings:
"There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the tone scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the tone scale... The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow... The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down"
-L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology founder, in the Scientology book "Science of Survival"

I don't think Scientology has helped the careers of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Tom Cruise's career might have started going down hill even if he wasn't a Scientologist, but his increasingly odd behavior which seems connected to the cult certainly didn't help.

Every Tom Cruise film has become a big ego trip which is all about "the star." I remember him when he was just a hard-working actor and I used to have some respect for him.

Gee, frgough, are you trying to say that Jason Beghe is a neurotic wife on Valium? No? Then why are you ignoring the data right in front of your face, Beghe's first-hand experience? Something tells me that if the subject was someone talking about the wonderful "wins" they'd had with Scientology "technology", you'd be declaring it words of golden wisdom from "someone who knows" -- and yet when you get words that AREN'T favorable to Scientology from someone who knows, someone who gave over a decade to Scientology and was declared OT V, all of a sudden you're rushing to attribute those words to a childishly crude stereotype you have in your head.

Book recommendation for those who have been commenting on this post: "Mistakes Were Made (But not by ME)" by Carol Tavris and Eliot Aronson.

The book explains the process of self-justification and the part that cognitive dissonance plays in the inability of most of us, at some time or another, to admit we've made a big mistake. Several examples are given from politics and relationships, but some that I found particularly relevant were:

* Religious cult leaders that predict the world will end on a date certain. When it does not, rather than leave the cult and admit they were wrong, the leader and cult come up with an explanation of why their prediction turned out to be wrong ie. "Our prayers save the world. Praise God!"

* Police and prosecutors who put the wrong person in prison for a serious crime like rape or murder. When exonerating evidence turn up, those police and prosecutors still insist they prosecuted the guilty party. To do otherwise would be to admit that they put an innocent person in prison, sometimes for years.

Cognitive dissonance says, "I am a smart person, how could I have been taken in by Scientology?" It's simple -- people don't do things for rational reasons, or for only rational reasons. Even smart people have been fooled by cults.

Why the Heck is Scientology a tax exempt organisation in any way? Who did they pay off or extort to make that happen? Are we in some 3rd world country where for the right amount of money even the IRS will take bribes? I am outraged.

I think it's very sad Jason Beghe did not take the measures that were available to him, and of which he is very well aware of.

I went to a few Scientology meetings and talked with some folks on advice of a "friend." I found that the only thing Scientology wanted was money, which I had very little of at the time. I finally got disgusted and left the group. They didn't bother me anymore (probably because they realized I really didn't have any money. The, IMHO, are in it for the money only. Why pay Scientology when other churches will get you what you need for free if necessary. Scientology is a ripoff.