Has anyone heard from the Duggars – the other media-freindly multi kid family. They did not have many at once, so maybe no one has tried to talk with them. I do not like their show so I don’t watch it. I do like Jon & Kate +8, especially Jon. He is so much the stereotypical “dad” I have to appreciate his situation. I expect that Ms Suleman has so alientated people she may not even get the same tummy tuck that Kate got after her 6 way nativity.

Well they are here and there is no going back, so are we going to keep harping on it or learn from it and help to give the mom the assisstance to give these children the best life possible without making them sideshow attractions?They don’t need millions of dollars but they should have as ‘normal’a childhood as possible.They didn’t ask to be born.

I can’t stand the Duggar’s or Jon & Kate. Both women should quit mindlessly breeding. We have enough kids in the world already. The Duggar’s as well as the Jon/Kate bunch are pimping their families out to make money. I think they should tax people twice as much for every child they have over the maximum of three.

I have read several comments on the woman who gave birth to these 8 babies and I am horrified by some of the comments I’ve read. I agree with the one who said these babies didn’t ask to be born and they did not pick who they were born to. I feel this was a huge mistake and with the mother being “unemployed” means the state will be paying for them. I think it’s a terrible thing that she has the attitude that she should be given a reality show about parental advice. I’m sorry I don’t want advice from someone who only knows how to produce. I can’t say she sets a good example. To me she shows pure irresponsibility by what she and her doctor have done. I can’t wait until this blows over and when she goes home and has to deal with the reality of having 14 children. It’s not going to be easy!!! I feel sorry for the grandparents. If they were smart, they’d get out now.

Who are we to judge? Seriously. People seem to take this highly unusual & unpredicatble multiple birth as an opportunity to be judgmental about a complete stranger. How very compassionate of us! I would not have made the choice to try for a 7th child, but how is her choice any of my business (or yours)? None of us know the first thing about this woman or the circumstances under which she will parent these children. You don’t know how good a mother she is or will be, how effective a provider she’ll be, or whether these children (and their siblings) will have a stable male presence in their lives. A publicist was on Larry King last night saying that the mother is an employed medical professional who owns her home and who is not bankrupt. Suppose that’s all true, does it make you feel better? Why does she have to explain any of that to the rest of us in the first place? Look: we live in a world where people are entitled to decide how many children they will or will not have. Do you seriously think that any of us would be better off, more free in any meaningful sense, if that rule changed? If you believe women have any right to determine how many children they will bear, you need to get off the judgment seat and pray for this woman’s success.

The woman that just had 8 babies is a complete idiot! The state is paying for it.

–To Mitsy–
You frighten me. You truly do. O_o It people like you who are causing the collapse of the “Western” society; letting Islamic extremists come in and take over. Look at western Europe today, since the “natives” stopped having kids; and the Muslims move in…. do you really want that here? Really? x_X That’s so sick–families have very little to no money at all just for basic hand-to-mouth living, and you want to steal more money off they barren table? *Shakes head* Matt. 24 and Rev. 6:6 are coming to life in front of us…
–On Topic–
Kate has some really good points. But, meh, I hate cooking. Maybe I could talk Spousie into a bread maker–that’s as far as I go for “from scratch” stuff.
“Every generation has its challenges to face, its own battles to win. Why should yours be any different? Running away from your responsibilities won’t solve anything.” ~~ Jedi Master Luke Skywalker’s “Force Ghost”, “Star Wars Legacy”

These families have done the American dream by living their lives and getting paid for it. It is fascinating to everyone to see such large families function and these families have opened their homes and expanded their bank accounts at the same time. The camera crews for both families are not there every single day. Events are planned to be filmed. The Duggar’s children are the most well behaved, well rounded children I have ever seen. Hopefully their story will inspire others to live a better life by not being so materialistic and spending more time with family. They do not tell everyone that they should have as many children as them. They also are not preventing those children. People can live that way and not have all those children.
Kate Gosselin is a motivational speaker and gets paid to speak at meetings and churches and to write books that are making their family a lot of money. They found their way to use what they have and make some money. Not everyone has to like them or watch them. Neither of them went into this expecting that their family would be that well liked, but if you watch their shows, you will see how VERY grateful they are for the opportunity to share their lives with their families and continue to raise their children right.

An excellent wife is the crown of her husband but she who shames him is like rottenness in his bones.
Proverbs 12:4
Katie Irene is NO Christian.

Whatever, Denise…

I do believe that each life is important and a gift, but to take extreme means to create that life when you don’t have the means to take care of it, to me is irresponsible. I also would like to know who paid for the in vitro? and who is the doctor that took part in this?

I envy anyone that can have a child. I myself am not able and I would give ANYTHING to be able to conceive. These babies are truly a blessing. God Bless this woman!!!!

Who are we to judge? This is between her and our Creator.

Personally I don’t get it – why people want so many children. Her parents are bankrupt; what does that say? How did she afford all those invitros? Makes no sense to me; I guess she did it for her 15 minutes of fame! Good luck, she’ll need it!

Greed, ego, calculating, exploitational . . . it’s hard to know where to begin to describe this woman. Six or more at once always have birth defects; the cost to society and the planet will be over $50 million to rear these children to adulthood. The conspiring physician should have his license revoked and Kaiser should sue her. Otherwise, there may be ‘copycat’ stunts from coast to coast.

She was totally irresponsible. She was only thinking of herself. Her parents are bankrupt and she and 14 children are living with them. What makes her think she should be entitled to a TV show as a Parenting Expert. She has not been a parent. Most women can give birth, but more important is being a mother and caring for these children. The poor children have not even bonded with their mother. The children deserve better than this. Many couples are unable to have children and would love to adopt in this country. She should adopt these children into loving families that are able to provide for them.

I personally think it was selfish and irresponsible of her to do this. Her parents, and i’m sure eventually us, as taxpayers are now stuck with the burdon of providing for her and her children. I also wonder, along with the other commenter..what Dr agreed to this? I have a 4 year old and a 16 month old, and we decided that i would have my tubes tied after our son was born, for many reasons. One, I wanted to be able to give them all of the attention they deserve, now and when they are older and want to be involved in extra curricular activities. We didn’t want to be stretched too thin, we want to be able to enjoy their childhoods with them. Two, I want to be able to save up for College, so they can have the opportunity at an education that I didn’t have, without the worry. Three, C-Sections aren’t fun to recover from:) I think this woman had/has an alterior motive behind this, which i’m sure we’ll see in the near future. God help those 14 children.

When I was in grade school 40 plus years ago, there was one family in my neighborhood with 21 yes 21 children. None were adopted. Lots of sets of twins and a couple sets of triplets. Majority was singles. I don’t know how they made ends meet but they were always dressed well, looked healthy and they were very polite.
Now comes along the 17 plus 1 tv family. They state their family has income properties to sustain their family. Great for them. You can see by their show they have a beautiful home, THEY built from scratch, and everyone works together doing everyday life. I just don’t know how they REALLY make it in today’s world with sooooo many children.
Gossling’s family they only wanted one more and got 6 instead. They took what they got, that was their choice. They are financially able to do this. You can see. They are all happy. God bless all these families. I just don’t know how anyone can handle more than 2-6 children in today’s world.

All though this maybe between her and God. This is about the health of these children. Why is grandmom so against it and grandpop so for it. What is grandpop getting out of this. Children are a blessing but if u have one u know that they can also be and pain in the u know what sometimes. Fourteen,fourteen of them that is a job for like four people. I tell u what since she wants to be a expert mommy, let’s wait for about a year let her do this by herself buy everything they need, no help. I f she is still standing and not crazy. Then give her the title, make her earn it. because just having them is the easy part.

I wish she had made herself financially stable before having so many childre, bc it has seemed to put a great burden on her parents,whom im sure would like to be living by themselves by now.Im just curious where she got the money for in vitro? Isnt that a very expensive procedure? And no one has mentioned whether or not this woman is a good mom, i mean does she show affection and love to her kids? i mean, my husband and i are poverty level, but our child has everything and more that she needs.so money doesnt always mean everything

In this day and age a person should NOT have 6 children let alone 8 more if they cannot provide for them. I agree with what Kate Gosselin about every life being created for a purpose but to intentionally attemt to bring a life into this world when you are already struggling is not fair to that new little person( or in this case persons) and the family that is supporting her. She thinks because of the popularity of the Gosseline’s and the Duggars thet she can cash in too. Let’s see what happens…..I wish her luck.

I also believe this woman has acted very irresponsibly. There is no
way that one parent can give that many children all the love and
attention they require.
I also wonder where she got the money for the IVF procedure. They
are not exactly cheap. And her doctors and medical personnel who
participated in this must also be held accountable. What were these
people thinking?
I also feel she probably convinced herself there was money to be made,
either via a book or a TV show.
Shame on her.

The thought of this woman makes me sick. She is like the crazy cat lady who has 50 in her double wide. EXCEPT … these are innocent little humans who deserve a lot better shot at life. I suppose that WE the TAXPAYERS are picking up the no doubt astronomical tab for her selfish, self-serving behavior. What a sick sick sick woman who would think of HERSELF and ONLY HERSELF. I think this is a travesty of logic and ethics. This woman does not need any more children she needs a serious amount of time under psychiatric care. The last thing we need is any sort of reward or glorification for this “baby hoarder”.

Why is everybody being so hard on this woman? She just gave birth to 8 children. I know she has to be worn out just by the pregnacy. I think everyone should give her a break. Maybe you can’t show 14 children the love that she can but don’t talk bad about her. Also Kate Gosselin concieved all her babies by vitro, so why is it so wrong for this woman. I’m sure if she had the money to pay for the vitro she will have enough to take care of them. All the mothers who have had these many have had help so why do she not need help too.

From what I understand, Nadya has a wonderful story to tell that will amaze everyone who hears it, so why don’t we wait and hear her story before we pass on too much judgement and criticism. We should give her the same consideration that any one of us would like if we were in the same situation.

Kate Gosselin’s children were not conceived via in-vitro. She has Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, which prevents her from getting pregnant naturally. She underwent Intra-Uterine Fertilization for both her pregnancies, in which drugs are used to produce and stimulate ovulation. This is VERY different from in-vitro fertilization, in which the doctors would have probably not implanted 6 eggs.

“So what do you think about the octuplet mom, Nadya Suleman? Do you think she’s done the right thing by giving life to so many? Or has she acted irresponsibly? Post your thoughts below.”
MAT 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.
EPH 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.
3:1 Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good,
2 to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.
JAM 4:11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
Lets build on another up.

My problem with this woman is not that she is a single mother. My problem is that she is unemployed, living with her bankrupt parents and has several debts of her own that have not been paid. Now she expects to be paid for giving birth. Did she think that someone was going to buy her a big new house? Did she think that someone was going to give her diapers and food for the life? Did she think she was going to get a nice new van and free gasoline for life? Did she think that she would not have to pay for anything ever again? Anyone can give birth. It was stated in one article that she was a contributing factor to her parents’ bankruptcy. How is she affording these procedures? I have five children of my own. Even with insurance the hospital bills were daunting. I have nothing against large families like the Duggars and Jon & Kate. They pay their own way. They did it before they were on television and did not contact the media as they were in labor trying to broker a deal. I have a problem with someone who wants children to further her own agenda. I have several friends who have large families and last time I checked they did not call Pampers for free merchandise. I feel sorry for the children because they are the ones who pay the ultimate price. What happens when they get too old for her? Does she throw them aside and find some other clueless doctor to perform this procedure for her? Who is going to pay for it? Where is the father in this situation? Is he going to pay for his children? We will ultimately pay for these children. I just hope and pray that these children have someone in their lives who love them purely and not for profit.

We read in the paper that her mother said that she only did it because she would be paid to. She goes to school and the only place you can get paid for having babies is welfare. They ought to pass a law disallowing babies conceived by in vitro from public assistance.Having 14 babies just for a huge welfare check is horrible and even her own mother is distancing from it.

hi i am a mother of 4 boys and i go to school full time aND WORK FULL TIME AND ITS HARD BEING a single mom how the heck is she going to make it out there she cant rely on the system or her parents and by the way she is an adult how is it that her mom is sussposed to give her daughter permisson to have a baby thats what her mom said on tv but i hope she takes care of her children she put herself in that position she needs to get herself out

There are so many levels on which Nadya Suleman’s actions are grossly irresponsible. First and foremost it seems her entire purpose for deliberately doing this is to exploit the children for her own gain. This is NOT motherhood, she is a sociopath! She was not having trouble conceiving naturally, she was misusing the technology not to have a child, but to create a sensation in order to solicit misguided sympathy and notariety. She is abusing the social net which is for people who are unfortunate, and trying to make a fortune on it. She is not capable of caring for these children properly on her own, has no father for them, no viable means of support, and has abused her parents as well.
The reason there are no laws against this kind of of child abuse and abuse of the social system is that it was inconceivable to those who make laws. It could have been anticipated, as certain women’s groups are pushing the legal and political limits daily, getting away with things no man would ever be able to (ie. murder and rape) Imagine how your perception of this travesty would be altered if there had been a man involved whom we could blame for making Ms. Suleman have the in vitro simply for his own gain! Just because she is a woman, we should not show any sympathy for her immoral actions. She may be a woman, but she is no mother, for a real mother would have her children’s best interests in mind. This woman has only her own selfish interests in mind. If we don’t help her the children will suffer, but even if we do help, once the novelty wears off and the support dwindles, these children will be subject to unthinkable abuses. It’s inevitable! Then we will have to intervene to save those children we can.
Either way, the only decent and moral solution is to take at least most or all of these children away, and start protecting society (including the unborn) from these insane abuses.

I agree with some of the commnents stated above, but the truth is…maybe she will be a great mom. She obviously had the money for in-vetro which is sooo not cheap. I think everyone is judging her to soon. There are many women out there that SHOULD be single mom’s because their husbands are useless or narcissists, or both. I am the mother of twins plus one and it’s hard. I go to school full time and I am basically a single mom. I say basically because I am living with one of my babies daddies but not the twins, and I do EVERYTHING alone. (wit the exception of house bills. My point is, give her a chance. You never know. Maybe she is a great mom. I know that before I had my twins (totally natural), I would say, my god, 2 babies how would you do it? And when they came, and i was single at the time..you just do it. Never had a problem, So wondering how she is going to do it..she just is. Ya know?

I think that woman was incredibly selfish, irresponsible, and stupid. and i will be totally outraged and get my voice out to the whole world if this woman thinks that everybody else should help her out money wise or even help raising them. i feel even more sorry for the kids. they are the ones that are gonna be hurt in the long run. I only have one two year old and at sometimes (especially with the economy) i have to make a lot of sacrifices so she gets everything she needs. i don’t care that she is a single mom, more power to her. but i agree with everyone that it was dumb to do this while living with mommy and daddy who still don’t have their crap together and on top of that not even having her crap together. and what i think is saddest of all is that me a 24 year old can see this crap and know it was dumb to do than she should have known. and to let everyone know, i do not speak of the children, it is not their fault they got and idiot for a mom and i am glad that they are healthy and i just hope that they will live happy healthy lives. it is the mother i could care less about and would tell her everything i think of her if i ever met her. and if she even tries to portray herself as anything like kate gosselin i think that would the best joke ever!!! I don’t know kate personally i am just a fan of her family but just from the show i know that they care about their kids and make responsible decisions.

Is she happy? http://enewsreference.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/octuplets-mom-nadya-suleman-sits-with-today-ann-curry-enewsreferencecom/

In addition to my last comment i would like to add that i am not upset that she has a big family. if i could afford it i might even think about have a couple more. certainly not 14 but to each their own. but to the idiot that says who are we to judge? We are the ones who ultimately going to pay for this!! and another thing about the comment that we should donate?!?! SCREW THAT, nobody helped me, me and my husband did on our own, that would be why we had our little girl. because we made sure that even if we had multiples (no didn’t do the vitro thing but multiples run in his family) that we could provide for them and ourselves. I even feel quilty when i have to ask my mother to watch her grandchild because i ended up in the hospital after a seizure. i know that might sound ridiculous and my mom even said it was but to me, i brought her in this world and she is my responsibility and mine alone. i hope great things for all those children but i could care less what happens to that ignorant “mother”.

People have been asking where this unemployed woman got the money for all the in-vitro fertilizations. She was injured at her job in 1999 when she worked in a mental health facility. She sustained a back injury during a riot. She was awarded a $156,000 disability settlement.
But now she is unemployed. To go for a 7th child when she is not financial secure is deeply irresponsible. I feel sorry for the children.

I think this woman is crazy. Having a child is the most amazing thing you can have i know but 14 is going a little too far. Its almost like the only thing that makes her happy is being pregnant. I know when i got pregnant i wasn’t in the best financial situation and i did live with my mom. But i was also 18 years old not 33 and i didnt have 6 other mouths to feed.
I regularily watch John and Kate + 8.. and i have alot of respect for Kate and how she raises all those little ones. But there is a difference between John and Kate and Nadya Suleman. They can afford to raise so many. And you see on the show bargain hunting is a big part of it. But either way they can come around they have a beautiful house and you can see that their kids are being properly taken care of. Someone with no job living with her parents can not do that.
Personally i think child welfare will step in before those babies are released from the hospital because come on where are they going to go. I have read its a 3 bedroom house.. with her parents and the other 6 plus herself. Its already over crouded.
This is a perfect example of greed. And i think people who want to donate everything to her are just as crazy as she is.

I too think that woman is selfish, irresponsible, and ignorant. And
those that continue to fuel that story are as well…Maybe, they should pay for her and those kids…why have the welfare system (us)
have topay for her loose screws?
Why do we continue to reward bad behavior? Does no one get it anymore?? What kind of example are we setting for our younger ones, when ignorant people see this crazy woman and what she did, as some great thing?
We need to reward those that deserve it!!

I feel real mad at this irresponsible woman right now.
However, lets not lose sight of the main focus for attention eight little miracles.
Whilst I agree with the majority of the folk about not fueling and rewarding bad behaviour; please remember, those little ones have done nothing wrong. They didn’t ask to be born and they should be given as much help and support as they need.
Life is going to be very tough for them because of their imfamous mother. I actually feel sorry for the burden they are going to carry for the rest of their lives through no fault of their own.
Lets show a little care and compassion for these innocent children in all this. Sure we all hate spongers and exploiters, which is exactly what their mother is, but these kids need to know that there are people in the world who don’t point the finger at them and say “You’re guilty by association.”
No child is ever asked if they want to be born, it just happens. For whatever warped reason, it appears they were planned and wanted.
They too need loving just as much as every other new born child, they don’t need pity they need to be embraced by society and given equal opportunity to flourish as everyone else.
Some people have short memories, only a few days ago you were all nodding in agreement with your newly elected President Barack Obama. He was advocating “Inclusivity” for every American citizen, doesn’t that include these children too?
These babies have got enough on their plate right now in battling for survival; lets not add to that burden with the anger, frustration and contempt we might feel towards their mother or others who’s involvement also needs addressing for bringing about such responsible actions and practice.
I will pray for these dear little ones and hope that society will be as kind to them as you would others to be with your own loved ones.
Regards Jerusha xx

Sorry my post above should have read “…for bringing about such irresponsible actions and practice.”

Abbey, I am very interested where you obtained the info you mentioned about the Disability Settlement. (in order to verify it is true)
Also, if she was awarded that amount of $$$ for a back injury, how can she physically care for her family and how could she knowingly go into a multiple pregnancy with such a back condition??? I wonder if she is also on SSDI because of her back.
Abbey said: “She was injured at her job in 1999 when she worked in a mental health facility. She sustained a back injury during a riot. She was awarded a $156,000 disability settlement.”
Someone mentioned that invitro can cost $80,000. each procedure.

While I have NOTHING going on about HOW MANY children are in a family – I do feel that a *single parent* (which I feel is the PC way of saying an *unwed parent* who can’t provide for HER OWN care has NO BUSINESS with 14 children. It’s sorta like having a child when you’re too old to raise them being *planned abandonment*, her approach to parenting (loosely speaking) is *planned poverty and neglect*. It would appear to me that *invetro* should have some serious tweaking in the areas of *psychological screening* and someone with NO VISIBLE MEANS OF SUPPORT should NEVER be permitted to have ANY children, nevermind be earning *frequent flyer* miles…
Ducking and hiding from what will surely be a verbal beat down for my *conservative* point of view. The reason many of us have no more children than we do is that we are already mentally preparing ourselves to support, through public funding, the excesses of one’s such as Nadya!

I do not feel it is anyone’s business how many children a person has, however, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out if you are on disability, not working, no husband or even a partner and living with parents who are unable to help financially, why have 6 chilren then try for more. The real question and concern is what Dr. would allow her to do this that many times knowing her situation…a money hungry one who is just as selfish as her.

What in the world was this woman thinking? What was her doctor thinking? I’m furious that he would knowingly inpregnate a woman with no husband, no visible means of support(except us taxpayers),and already 3times the children she needed under school age. I think it makes perfect sense to put the Dr.under constant supervision so that this type of thing doesn’t happen again, make the dr. responsible for the expenses of raising those children from birth, including the first months of hospitilization, through college; make the woman get her tubes tied, and if they don’t agree with these arrangements, those babies should be taken from her and put into adoptive homes to people who can’t physically have natural birth children. There are people, I’m sure, who would even be thrilled to take multiples. Who paid for this nuts invitro, anyway? If the Dr. did, what was he trying to prove, and if it was medi-cal, we should demand a refund. I have raised 3 kids, done many years of daycare, done foster care, and I’ve seen the system. While these babies are in the hospital, prospective parents could be heavely screened and the babies placed in their homes right from the hospital. That way they could bypass the foster system all together. Grandmother to 8

This is a travesty. The fact that this woman has 14 children and no visible means of support should make every red-blooded tax paying American furious. What is she thinking? There is no way she can possibly care for these children adequately. I do hope Child Protective Services will be involved and find homes for these little ones. I also think the doctor and clinic should be taken to task. The doctor needs to have his license revoked. What was he thinking? He should also be given a stiff fine and the money be used to help these children.

This woman is very selifsh. Children love to have a Dad they are proud of and especially little boys need a role model. ‘
What kind of guy is this David Solomon, the father. not to provide for any of his children.

I pray she get’s help from Christian agencies and individuals who can assist without judging her. These children are all precious and should be helped in this great big wonderful world.

This whole situation is tragic, especially for the 14 children. There is absolutely no way ANYONE could provide the loving care a child needs to that many children so close in age. It’s fundamentally different than having a very large family spread out over 15 or 20 years. I wish DCFS could take the octuplets away from this crazy, selfish woman and give them to caring, responsible families, but I know that’s impossible.

Suzy, that disability payment is being reported in several news sources including the Associated Press. It’s actually $165,000 and not $156,000.
“During a hearing on her case in December 2001, Suleman said pregnancy aggravated her back condition. She said she spent most of the day in bed and was unable to care for her first child, according to a report by workers’ compensation judge Jerome Bulavsky. “

I’m pretty sure Kate G’s kids were conceived via IUI (intra-uterine insemination) not in vitro. The chance of higher order multiples (more than twins) is greater w/ IUI since you’re placing sperm close to egg follicles. Kate happened to have 6 that fertilized. Responsible IVF (in vitro) doctors should not/would not transfer that many. Those of us who went to responsible Fertility doctors and had to do in vitro know that no doctor in his right mind, who takes his Hippocratic oath seriously would transfer more than three or four embryos. And those high number transfers (3-4) are only in the case of a woman who is over 40 and has a lower chance of the embryos attaching. I was in my early 30s and begged my doc to transfer four and he refused. He transferred only two. I had twins. I am so thankful he was responsible even when I wanted him to be reckless.
If Octo-Mom did in fact do IVF and not IUI, then the doc who transferred eight or whatever for the her should have to face serious ethics board reprimands. It’s like the Wal-Mart of IVF clinics. UGH!

Um, Darlene, they’re not his kids. Blame the psycho, unemployed, abusive, unbalanced, money-grubbing, egg-farm of a mother for having kids merely for her own psychological comfort and fiscal profit. I hope her children are taken away and that her doctor’s license is taken away.

Did any of you see the Today Show interview? She looks like Angelina Jolie via plastic surgery. I wonder if the donor looks like Brad Pitt.
It’s truly a sad situation when a mother of 14 is in such denial or her reality. I wouldn’t care if it didn’t have a serious impact on 14 innocent children. It’s bad enough they don’t know their father. I pray the father steps up and becomes involved and she gets psychological/psychiatric help for her state. A women who undergoes a transformation to look like a movie star obviously has some deep-rooted issues and I don’t think it was because she was an only child and needs to connect. It’s a sad siutuation and I pray others involved will intervene for the benefit of all the children. Lastly, did anyone else pick up on the fact that Ann Curry also had the first “exclusive” interview with Angie when she had her baby/babies?

Am I the only one to notice who is paying to raise these children. In case you are unaware–you are, the taxpaying society! No one has the right to have even one child, just because they have the ability, for someone else to financially care for the child.

It is hard to understand why someone in the situation of Nadya Suleman decides to have even one more baby if already had six, imagine 8 babies, it is crazy. Six babies is enough to keep someone very busy. Even if this mother gets goverment help or even a book deal(which by the way I would NOT buy)still she will need to take care the kids herself, it is NOT fair with her mother and family make them to do HER job. If miss Nadia’s idea was to keep herself busy, she got it, she will be all busy.
Some people think the babies’ mother is trying to get a tv show or something like that and if it it ever happens LOT PEOPLE WILL NOT WATCH it because they think she will be using the kids,

This woman sounds like a professional scam artist. She’s popping out 14 children and doing IVF cycles during the ten years that she says that she’s completely disabled and can’t work.
It’s people like this who mess up the system so that the truly disabled have a hard time getting benefits when they really need it.

I have finally heard that the fertility clinic doctor is being investigated. YAY!!! Maybe some laws or at least strict guidelines with penalties will be initiated. This needs to never happen again!!
I’d also like to know if she has medical insurance. I don’t want anything bad to happen to her or her children, however, this was a disaster in so many ways.
If she writes a book, I will read it from the library.
I’m sure her parents feel like they are in the middle of a situation that have to help with in any way they can. They were not given a choice.

All of you are being way too judgemental on this woman. I just pray that even if DHS did have to take those children from her that they wouldn’t end up with any of you negative people to take care of them or they would probably be worse off. God loves this woman and her whole family and even each one of you. Be careful little tongue what you say, for the Father up above is looking down in love, so be careful little tongue what you say.

Sorry to rain on Lee’s parade but I think the tax payers in this country have the right to be dumb founded and outraged by this woman’s behavior. And we have every right to express it. The Lord gave us all the capacity to think and reason and I see none of that in this situation. What happened here is an example of deep, kind of scary psychological issues that now these 14 children will have to deal with. Just because you want to do something doesn’t give you the right to do it. I am a mother of four and a teacher. While I know I don’t have all of the answers I do know that it takes a lot more than “being present and holding your children” as Nadya was quoted. At some point she is going to have to put her children down and figure out how SHE, not her parents, not the taxpayers, will provide for these children. I find her suggestion that she could be some kind of parenting role model laughable. In fact, it’s just plain nutty.

Well, the children are here and somehow they will be raised. Who knows how? Who can gague what they will go through. It’s all speculation. The mom doesn’t seem particularly grounded or in touch about what it means to have 14 children. She may be in touch more than it shows, but most people would never let such a thing happen. Help on a colossal scale is imperative. Her parents raised her to be who she is, and reality hasn’t sunk in yet, or nobody in her family is in touch with reality. I feel sorry for the children who will probably be deprived of any quality of life. Unless the family wins the lottery, God help them all. It nearly killed me raising two boys. She’s a lot more fearless than I could ever be. And what kind of doctor would even impregnate a woman with 8 possible new soul? Frankly the whole thing is mind boggling.

Does this lady have a church family to help her? It takes more than just a set of grandparents? The WHOLE family need spiritual help and guidance. A church family is vital.

I think this woman is HIGHLY irresponsible, not to mention selfish. Single, no steady income and 14 KIDS, only because she wants to fill the void of her childhood. I’m GLAD to know the doctors are being investigated.

I pray for her strength, I can only imagine how much it will take to raise all those kids. despite what she did, she didn’t expect the out come..what is being irresponsible in that?

Val, “she didn’t expect the out come..what is being irresponsible in that?”
She already had 6 children. She was going for a 7th child. That alone is irresponsible. How can she provide any quality of life when she is unemployed and depends on her parents to take care of the children? She did not have the support of her parents to continue getting In-Vitro Fertilization. Her parents are the ones who are burdened with the responsibility of caring for the children as well and it was not their choice to go for a 7th child at all.
Despite the fact that Ms. Suleman holds the children and loves them unconditionally, it takes money for children to have clothes, food, school supplies, toys, social activities, doctor’s visits, dental care etc. Not to mention college, but it’s doubtful that she is saving any money for that.
You could also argue that it is irresponsible to even have in-vitro fertilization without a husband…… and deny the children a right to have a father in their life… but that’s another issue.
The premise of her actions was irresponsible. But it gets worse.
She allowed SIX embryos to be transfered with the knowledge that all SIX could implant themselves. The normal amount and recommended guideline is to transfer TWO. That is deeply irresponsible, not just by her, but also by the doctor because multi-births have many health problems that can be lifelong health problems– including mental development. It’s quite likely that the 8 children will have special needs, but right now they are too young to assess. (She had 8 children because 2 of the 6 embryos divided and became two sets of twins.) To deliberately set up a situation where you are endangering the lifelong health of children is really sick.
It is possible to abort some of the embryos if too many implant for the sake of the health of the remaining children; I respect that Ms. Suleman did not want to take that route– however, the situation never would have arose if she had been more RESPONSIBLE.
The cost for these 8 premies in their hospital stay is expected to run about 2 million dollars. How is that responsible?
What about the care of these young children? What about the quality of care for her other six? Personally, I think the state should take the children away from her and give them to people who have the time and resources to properly care for them. Even in a daycare, the ratio is 1 adult for 4 infants. She needs 2 full time adults just to care for the 8 premies, plus another adult to care for the other 6 children. To me, what she has done is reprehensible and akin to child abuse.

this goes to Lee, if you feel that she should get help and donations then i think all of us should. even me with only one child. this is absolutely obsurd to donate to this woman who did this to her self. she knows it was no accident and did it intentianly. (sorry for any misspelling it is late and i am extremely tired) i agree with mostly everyone about her not getting any donations or wic or anything. and hope with all my heart that these children will be taken away from her. on a personal note, as for the person commenting that we should mind our own business. THIS IS OUR BUSINESS!!!! We are going to end up paying for these children and her selfish decision whether we like it or not and i don’t mean by donations. and i PERSONALLY think that if god or jesus were here today they would be upset as well. my advice to you, you pay for these kids and the dumb mother if you feel so strongly about it, don’t make the rest of us who are struggling with our own finaces and the economy as it is.

I think that she is very irresponsible in having another 8 kids on top f the 6 that she already had. How does she plan to take care of all of them. Does she have the money to raise them and who is going to help her raise 8 babies and also the other 6 kids. She is going to wind up to be on welfare and then the tax payers will be paying for all of those kids. The doctor should never have inplanted 6 embyros in her when he knew that he was only supposed to inplant 2. I hope that this doctor is investigated. I think that it is very wrong to have gone thru with the pregnacy knowing that she was going to have 8 more kids. She should have done the right thing and aborted some of them. I know how hard it is to make ends meet and both of my parents worked, but I came from a family of 11 children and it was very hard. All were single births

Nearly all in vitro fertilization users are irresponsible. Clearly a single mom of six already without sufficient financial resources is irresponsible, but so were the Gosselins. The world is overpopulated as it is. People should not be doing more than just replacing themselves. Period. I can’t wait until the day these ridiculous multiple birth stories aren’t reported with the joyous event slant they currently are, and instead are reported as they should be – instances of shameful selfishness and irresponsibility.
Do you know how much it costs our medical establishment for these multiple births? First there’s all the in vitro work prior to pregnancy, then there’s the extra care during pregnancy, and then finally the medical procedures, personnel, and equipment during delivery and neonatal care. Do you want to know why so many Americans can’t afford health insurance??? Here’s one of the contributing factors!
Absolutely shameful. If you have love, stability, and resources to give to a child and you can’t have your own, then adopt. There are so many children who were unlucky enough to have been born to neglectful parents who need someone to love and care for them. Stop being so selfish in wanting a brand new baby with your DNA and think about what’s really right.

If the lady’s parents are bankrupt, I seriously doubt they are footing the bill. Funny, no one has mentioned welfare. I am sure the state is supplying all the necessities and care for the first 6 children and will continue to do so for the other 8 children. My question is who paid for the in vitro fertilization? Isn’t that expensive?? Like most everyone, I am enraged that the “doctor” let her do this. I do medical transcription and I have typed notes where single mothers have done this before, i.e., sought fertility treatments. I couldn’t believe fertility doctors would even consider a single mother with other children to raise, but the answer is really simple – they get their money from the state, not the patient, and it is a sure thing. How converted our society has become. We have encouraged and abetted the abortion of almost 60,000,000 children in America, while at the same time the government pays for fertilization treatments of single, poor, and often ethnic women. Go figure!

has this woman had a mental stability evaluation? her outlook is that of a child.maybe her mental age is only seven.either way she doesn,t need to be raising those children if she is going to put all the burden on her poor parents.She probably already planned on all those donations he thought she would be getting.but however irresponsible she was,the fact remains that there are all those innocent babies who will need fed and cared for.She needs to give them up to adoptive parents or find a man with lots of money who is willing to take on the job of helping to raise them all.He might also want to pay for her to have er tubes permanently done.Well they are here now and we should all just pray for them and their mother and grandparents cause thry,re gonna need a lot of them.meanwhile I hope that the public outrage and nonsupport this time will serve as an eye-opener for other likeminded mommie wannabes that think like her.

She was awarded a $156000 disability settlement. … THAT HOW SHE PAID THE FRIEND DR.FOR THE INVITRO THIS WAS PLANNED FOR MONEY SHE SEES JON AND KATE AND THE DUGGERS SEE$$$$ KIDS SHOULD BE REMOVE SHE GOES TO JAIL DR. TOO I AM SUR THEY PLANNED THIS HERE THE DADS IS COMMING BACK $$$$$ GREED ENVY SAD FOR THE POOR KIDS

I think a great reality show would be that she gives he kids up for adoption.

I just read the responses to the article on Jon and Kate’s response to the woman who gave birth to Octuplets. This person who responded said that all people who use IVF are irresponsible. That is an outrage so the world is overpopulated, that point I agree. I am in politics and deal with the reality of that situation on a daily basis but to say that IVF is irresponsible is insane! That is basically saying, hey if you can’t do it on your own too bad for you! Some of the most passionate and wonderful parents I know are parents because of IVF. Jon and Kate have said it themselves multiple times…they are a fertility nightmare. They didn’t go into this hoping to get a tv show out of it they went into it wanting children. Their doctor wanted them to eliminate some of the fetuses and they couldn’t do it…could you? I have never been in that situation but I doubt that I could decide which of my children should live or die. To the person who wrote that response saying IVF is irresponsible I hope for the sake of all of us you don’t and never do have kids!

This crazy woman watches too much Jon and Kate Plus 8. She is hoping that companies, individuals and the media will shower her with millions of dollars as were the Gosselins.
John and Kate should be taken off the tv. They are not good examples of parenting. The children are slow. The little girls need haircuts and they look like refugee waifs. What kind of an example is it for small children to see an unemployed father and a psychotic, brain dead mother? Without the tv show and their books, these two undereducated egotistical parents would be unable to provide for their children. They should be made an example of and the show should be taken off the air before another misguided psychotic freak woman drops another litter.

I’m 33, single and have longed to be a mother for more years than I can count. What differentiates someone like me from Ms. Suleman is that there is not a selfish bone in my body that would allow me to bring a child into this world knowing that I would have to my parents or taxpayers to provide for my family. If the reports are true that three out of her first six children have disabilities, no decent mother would decrease the amount of time and attention that only she could provide as their mother. Period. More certain than I have been about anything is that Ms. Suleman is a very sick woman who is exploiting the media, our government, her religious community, her parents and her very own children for her own selfish benefit. She will never hold a full-time job. She will never be the sole provider for her family. And, from the day her additional babies were born, she will never struggle. Sure, they’ll be a lot of feedings, late nights and dirty diapers. But struggle to survive. Absolutely not. Social Security and a reality TV show will ensure not only her survival but her upward mobility. This woman is not a mother…I don’t know what word we would apply to a person, a woman, like her. If she were a horse, we would call her a brood mare. And, like a horse, she will be dependent on someone else to care for her and for her children for the rest of their lives. I hope she remembers that she’s a human someday, rises to become a mother and realizes what she’s done. According to her well-made plans she’ll be finishing up her Masters this fall. Additionally, she’ll have NO problems making ends meet at the first of each month as she’s cashing the tax dollars of Americans who are genuinely struggling to provide for their children and families. This woman has single-handedly figured out how to manipulate Welfare, Social Security, and probably a handful of other governmental agencies I haven’t even thought about. How sad that the birth of eight children marks a great sense of tragedy within this one woman’s soul and an even greater sense of collective tragedy within our ill-functioning American government and society.

first i would like to say i like john and kate plus 8 because it shows how hard it is to raise that many children and it looks very hard. many people hate john and kate because they put there kids on tv but think of all those things the kids get to do now that there parents have the money to do those things. also the mom who just had 8 babies is a little crazy but who isnt these days. i think she did the wrong thing but would you be able to make the choice of which babies to keep and which to get rid of. i dont think you could.

I think Jon and Kate are a family that works hard and shows a lot about what it means to be “a family” it doesn’t matter how many children your family encompasses. I don’t think they are glorified, I think it was rare and unusual to have 6 babies at once and so they were interesting…hence the media and tv hype. For years, many religious families have had 10, 11, and more children, some still do, and many of them can’t afford to raise their children either. How about that family with 18 kids? What is their goal? Yes, implanting 6 embryos was overkill, to say the least, but they all implanted, which is very very unlikely. Most times people implant 6 and only one or none implant, which is probably what this Nadya lady was thinking. For 2 of the embryos to split and become identical twins is even more rare, and this whole thing seems to be at the hands of a higher power. Someone bigger than you or I thinks that this woman can handle all 14 of her children. Lets wait and see what happens.

ABBY!!!! you are as ignorant as this mother with 14 kids!!! with no job, living at home and all that she shouldn’t have tried for “just one more” i go out to the people who would love to have kids and just can’t even with medical help. i almost was at that point and i am only 24 (if anyone has read my comments above) but i was very lucky and just and i was about to stop, i got my angel. I am all for the medical aspect if people need it, but i think there should be guidlines. and i hope to god that social gets invloved. and i love reading all these comments that even more are saying that who are we to comment?!?!?! We would be the ones paying for the kids. i know that their life shouldn’t suffer b/c their mother is an idiot. Her MOTHER doesn’t even agree with what she did. My biggest issue with all this about that we should help this idiot is if you think about it, even with one child at times you struggle money wise (and yes i mean a working person) especially with the economy. I think that if she gets help, medicade, or any donations, i think we shoudl all get donations and all that. my daughter had to be on a VERY expensive formula and it was hard to get by, they said we made too much to get help with formula (which sucked but is understandable) but i guess the real lesson here is maybe we shoudl just all quit our jobs that most of hate anyway and get all these things this chick is asking for. again if she gets ANYTHING, i will do EVERYTHING in my power to make myself be heard publicly!!!! I just can’t believe some actually think this woman deserves any help at all.

Hello,
My name is Betty and I am separated 41 years old mother of 22 month old beautiful quaduplet girls. I was blasted, put down etc because I choose to have the girls. My husband abandoned me because he was angry that I did not abort some of the babies. It is extremely hard taking care of the girls with limited finances. However it has taught me how to live on a budget. Living in a house that we have totally out grown and pray that we don’t burst out of the seems. (organization is a must) I work part-time, attend school part-time and I receive child support. I keep my face before the LORD and I thank HIM often for the gift of the Quads. My heart goes out to this young woman. I will not judge her but I do ask that GOD have mercy on her. I also pray that she will be able to financially support these children, love them as a mother should and train them up in the correct way. I also pray that she has a strong support system. If it were not for GOD, my family,local multiples group and the Body of Christ. We would be lost. May God help the young lady.

The first thing I would do would be to get her OFF OF THE TELEVISION CHANNELS, get the media coverage AWAY from her, because that is what she wants. Why do WE REWARD people that have make such irresponsible dicisions. We put them on TV and make them FAMOUS. In today’s world and todays economy, the act of such greed on that woman’s part is unforgivable. She did this with the expectations that she would become famous and that people will GIVE HER MONEY, stores will give her merchandise and that someone will eventually pay for her NANNY. Think about it, how else is she going to live unless she is paid by state, media coverage, or other people. It makes me very ANGRY for people that have made conscience decisions based on what their families that plan, and struggle, without any financial assistance from anyone. I speak from experience because I was a single Mom for ONE CHILD and I there was period of time and I worked 3 jobs to make it. I never held my hand out to anyone for financial assistance. I THINK IT TIME…TIME NOW….THAT WE “STOP” rewarding people like her. Stop rewarding the irresponsibility.

I am a huge fan of Jon and Kate Gosselin, who are blasted by many blogs for exploiting their children; which to me is the most ridiculous statement that I have ever heard. What is so wrong about wanting to give your children everything that they need, and believe me with the rising costs of education today they will need all the money they can get, the point I am trying to make here is that they did not set out to have twins and sextuplets, it was something that happened to them and now they are working to make sure all their children have the best life possible, i commend them for doing what they are doing. They are not living off the government and taxpayers they found a way to do it themselves. As for the octuplet mom, from what she has said i truley believe that she did this to get the fame that jon and kate have. I mean surely she will soon have a show of her own to capitilize on, and in this case i think that it would be wrong. To encourage others to do what she did would be irresponsible. She did this on purpose, and she wants to reap the benefits, but to compare her to kate gosselin is absurd. the gosselin sextuplets were born before the mania about watching large families on tv happened, if there was anything bad to say about what they are doing is that the show is putting ideas into money grubbing hands. The world is all about get rich quick with as little work as possible. I truly hope that all her children get the love that they deserve and if that means taking them away from the mother who is trying to capitlize on the fact that she gave birth to octuplets then so be it. To end this comment i think now would be the time for some regulations on ivf and iui, this is ridiculous, not only is it dangerous to the mother but also to all the children who have to deal with all the premature issues, its not fair she already has autistic children now she is running the risk of having more, her burden is huge to bear and honestly i dont think any one person can do it but then again i might be wrong.

For those who say that having large families is irresponsible i disagree, it should say that having large families wihtout the resources to care for those large familes is irresponsible, but if you have the income neccessary to have a lot of children then by all means who are we to say anything about how many children a person has or to tax that family more just because they have a lot of children( that was the most ignorant statement i have ever heard.) Also to those who say that people who have ivf and iui are irresponsibe, well you obviously have no idea what it is like to not be able to conceive children, i fortunately do not have that problem i have two beautiful gifts from god. If anyone should be to blame it should be the doctors they have more knowledge as to the outcome of these procedures and those who implant more then they should are irresponsible and should no longer be able to practice medecine, but the ability to help people who would not be able to get pregnant on their own should not be criticized.

Kate conceived the twins and sextuplets by IUI, not by IVF.

I enjoy each day watching the Gosselin kids grow and develope. I am a great grandmother. I feel joy watching how the children are such different people and already showing the strenth and talents that will be carried in the future.Kate and John are not super human.They are doing the best they can for each child.It makes them more human and growing with the kids and getting along in life motivated by such a love for the kids and one another. I wish them all the joy and happiness they may gather. The Gosselins are nothing like the Octuplet Mom. She has taken a wonderful thing and distorted it into a sick selfish act. I pray for the children and hope they find health and happiness. I hope the public is wise enough to see such a difference in the two situations. Kate and Jon will continue to be the same loving parents that they are no matter what others think.

I have no problem with couples or singles having as many children as they want as long as they can afford them. However, when you already have 6 or 7 children, and some with disabilities and your financies come from student loan money, and social security checks and you have no job…this is not logical, intelligent thinking. This is not a good financial pattern on which to base your future. The responsibility of these new babies utimatley lies with this woman’s decision. The doctor is responsible for quality care. I also love to watch Jon and Kate Plus 8…but look at them…they are intelligent, responsible and organized people. There is a saying that love is not enough and I find this to be so true in all walks of life.

I am going to number these for ease of understanding:
1) being a single mom has nothing to do with why I am upset with this deranged mom.
2) having raised twins and a healthy sibling 2 years and 20 days apart, I know how difficult raising children close together is, and 14 this close together? I don’t think anyone can provide all the love and psychological attention these children need to grow up normal and healthy.
3) one child is autistic. Autistic children take more, not less, attention from a parent to aid them in becoming an adult who can be what we all desire to be: a fully functioning and successful (as in can support oneself) member of society. When will she find the time to do this now?
4) two other children have disabilities severe enough for SSI to provide (taxpayer provided) assistance to her- ie: welfare As we don’t know what the disabilities are, we can only surmise (as all disabilities do) that these children also need a significant amount of 1:1 attention from their mother.
5)since when are foodstamps (a taxpayer provided program for those in need) not considered welfare or charity? yes, they are there if you need them but…
6) she is going to depend on her (apparently) stressed out mom and dad to provide assistance.
7) she is also going to use private charity (as in her church) to provide aid so she can raise these children.
This was no accidental pregnancy. This is not healthy for those children and no one knows what disabilities they may have in the future, but I will guess some will have some learning disabilities.
This use of charity, both public and private are a drain on our systems and will prevent others who need assistance from obtaining these limited resources due to this woman’s selfishness. Single motherhood has nothing to do with it. I understand both single moms and divorced parents raising children by themselves. This is a gross abuse of our sympathies and our time and money.
Shame on her. None of these children will get the attention and care that they need by sheer exhaustion of the mom. How is she going to finish school in 18 months? I know how draining 2 newborns are and I had help. She has 8. plus 6 other children who need time and attention.
I feel sorry for those children, but I forsee many of them being on the public dole for years to come.
I am a pediatric nurse practitioner. I know what it takes to raise children from both a practical and a professional standpoint. I feel for these children.
I agree that love is not enough and I do not know where she will find the time, energy, and money to properly raise these poor defenseless children.
I pity them.
I do not have a problem with families raising as many children as they can physically, emotionally and financially afford. I have good friends who have many children and do quite well. (one has 10 – 5 adopted, but she can afford them all and has full time help several have 6 and at least one wants more and can do it all on her own.) I also have several friends with 1, 2 and 3 children.
It is a personal decision, if you can afford it. She cannot. She is not stable.

My question is, did she pay for her plastic surgery out of the same disability settlement with which she paid for the fertilization? Look at her – fish lips, a child-size nose, cheeks a la Cher, and a forehead that doesn’t move – she obviously was either preparing for her “fame” or she has always had a massive attention-seeking issue.

I agree with everyone on here so far; however, there is one point that has not been brought up. What laws are there in California for even allowing something like this to happen. “Sorry, we can’t help gay couples conceive but if you’re a single mother with 6 other kids at home, getting food assistance, living in a home your mother owns, not working, collecting disability and have had extensive plastic surgery, we can sure accommodate you!”
What about the father of all these kids. Can you imagine the story she made up to this guy?? “No, of course I’m not going to implant ALL 6 embryos….just one or two.” Do you think that this guy would have actually gone for this? And from my understanding, it was one session for him in the fertility clinic but these were just left overs.
I don’t know much about how IVF works but don’t they generally just take 6 or so eggs at a time?
If she wanted this many children so badly, then I think the State of California should lay all the bills in her lap and say, “you wanted them, you got them, you came up with the money to have them, now you get to pay for them.”

EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS LINK. THIS LADY SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FOR WELFARE FRAUD ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR TAX DOLLARS HAVE GONE TO PAYING FOR ALL 14 OF HER CHILDREN ALONG WITH HER IVF. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. http://petitionspot.com/petitions/welfarefraud

Reports are now coming out that the mother might have been taking an antidepressant when she made these poor decisions. Anybody who has experienced SSRI induced hypomania or mania can relate to her thought patterns. Research is now showing that SSRIs are known to cause poor impulse control, improper thinking patterns, and an extremely selfish attitude. It is obvious that she is not thinking clearly and is living in somewhat of a “la-la land” based on the interviews that she has done. That is what these meds do to people.

I am still in shock over this news and the more I read the more upset I get. How can the state allow this to happen is what I want to know. I have only one disabled child, I am a teacher and my husband is a state trooper and we try our hardest to get by, but the state won’t allow us to get SSI for him b/c we make too much money! I’m outraged! Perhaps, I should move to California!

I find myself at odds with everything. The logical issue is that the medical community is doing a probe. WHY? It is very apparent that this was outside of any normal bounds of responsible theory. Also, while I have always thought it was great that women can get help it always is the “Christian” who brings up how important life is.
Does anyone consider that this may be gods way of culling the herd and controlling population? Perhaps you are not meant to have a child.
So then you add that gays can not adopt because they have sex. (My parents had sex behind closed doors, didn’t yours?) Gays are not allowed because Marriage is MAN and WOMAN. So explain why I can have my cut off and drill a hole and call myself a WOMAN and get legally married? And now we have a mother of 14, who clearly has mental issues and is getting not help but encouragement to continue in this reckless behavior. How is this good for these children? And why the hell am I paying for it. I believe that all those who believe she is right should pony up the money and she be denied all public assistance. See how quickly and high off the hog she lives. My guess is not to far.
She should not be on TV, no books, go home and begin to take care of all those children. Also, she should be neutered, MY DOG IS cause it is a responsible thing to do to prevent “LITTERS”

In my opinion, there are so many aspects of this that are just plain wrong. Did she go into this knowing the state and taxpayers were going to have to support her and her kids? Bringing that many children into the world just because she “had always dreamed of having a huge family” was a selfish and cruel act on her part. If she was on anti-depressants,then her doctor should be investigated and lose his license. And her mental state should be checked. I am truly appalled by this whole thing. She evidently made a conscience choice to do this not thinking about the the children at all. It’s not up to the state to prevent what she did, but she should be made accountable
for it. She wanted these children, she should pay for them. I have no pity for her at all, but the children are going to suffer. And plastic surgery? Anyone ever hear of sacrifice? That’s what you do to have children. I think she’s a goldigger and did this thinking maybe she would get a show like “JON and Kate Plus 8″. Now I can’t say that for sure, but in my eyes it’s adding up. In this day and time, people are having enough trouble just trying to get by. Why should we pay for an idiotic decision someone made because of selfishness?
The longer I think about this the madder I get. I, for one, will not be donating any money to her or her children. There are to many other issues in this country that need to be taken care of that I would donate to, not an Angelina Jolie wanna be. I am disgusted.!!!!!

leave the woman alone. we are not to judge what others do. our energies must focus on our own lives, not that of others we cannot control.
why are people so concerned about their tax $$ going toward supporting her children?? we all pay taxes for things we’d rather not—um, its called WAR.
i’m appalled at the outrage of negativity toward this woman more so than her having 14 children. its rather disgusting how people feel they have the right to judge what other people do.
i say let it go, live your own life and let her live hers.

I think that people are just being haters. So what…she wanted to have all these kids….so why are people acting like the in vitro police? No….she can have these kids…because she already has 6 other kids…..who cares!!! Leave the poor woman alone!! I have four children and I was constantly told no more kids after I had my first two. I said right to there face…..my body, my baby, my choice.I faced some medical issues to but I didnt let that stop me.I bet if she was married, she would be treated to differently. I think everybody should back off and let her live her life the way she wants.

I have read the comments above and agree with those who feel that what she has done is not right and using the system. For those who want us to leave her alone remember that what she is taking from the government or state is taking away from someone or someones child in areas of free help: student loans ? welfare ? disability for three children (and if inherited then some of her 8 new babies will have disabilities), health care and most of all HER MANICURED NAILS. I wouldnt help this women or her children if I was a millionare. I worked all my life for what I and my family has and she doesnt deserve to get anything for free. And if and when she gets her Masters in Psych , what lunatic will go to her ?

I think this woman deserves all the love and respect in the world! As a single mom of 8, I now have a true role model. I am on government assistant but occasionally work under the table as a dancer. But no matter what life throws at us, I can now show everyone a shining example that anyone can be a GREAT MOM!

I think that it is her choice to have children. but i do not think that it is responisible for her to have so many without a husband or job. I also think that it is right for her parents to kick her out to make it on her own. she chose to have children so now its time for her to stand on her own two feet and take care of them.

I think that it is very inresponsible for her to be able to keep all of these children. clearly she is not a responsible human being. she has no job, money, or house to live. I have to give her mom credit for standing up for herself and kicking her inresponsible daughter to the curb. maybe now she will learn that you should have a job and a house before you decide to have 14 children. and remember this no one in life loves you more then your parents. so for her saying that her parents did not love her is wrong and very hurtful to them. she just wanted the attention that this would cause she is a media hungry person that needs to get off butt and take care of what she started.

I think that she is a very bad mother. for having 8 more children when she already has 6 at home and some with special needs. she should realize that she was very blessed with what she had. and she should not have had any more. she says that she had all of these children for love. but let me tell you something children do not always love their parents. infact some times children can not stand their parents. is she going to be able to handle the day that one of her children says that they hate her. or will she go postal and kill one if not all of them.

I think that asking for donations from people to support your children is wrong. inless they have a deadly illness or injury. my parents worked their whole lives to support three children and i know 14 is 11 more then 3. but with the support of her parents she can conquer the world and her children can thrive in it.

I think that people need to mind their own business. If she wanted to have more children, that’s her choice. I will say that her actions were irresponsible. But who am I to judge her? It will be a struggle, emotionally and financially to take care of 14 children. Anyone who has 14 kids in this day of age, would need some sort of public assistance. If the Gosselin’s didn’t have a show on TLC, and whatever other “sponsorships” and “donations”, they’d need financial help too. Let’s not forget, they had IVF too. Nadya Suleman’s children are not the only kids our tax dollars are taking care of. Additionally, I’d be interested to see how many women there are out there that have 10+ kids and are receiving public assistance. We’re taking care of them too. You may argue that they didn’t do it using IVF, but every time they had unprotected sex, they knew that they could get pregnant…so what’s the difference? Lastly, the one thing that makes me upset about this whole thing is the media. THEY sought her out. She didn’t come out looking for them. The pretty much FORCED her into showing her face and telling her story…am I lying? And if I was her, I would have said pay me too! You want me to tell you MY business so you can exploit me and my kids, be ridiculed and frowned upon so your ratings can go up? That’s not right. John & Kate’s 6 babies are 4 now…why are we still watching them? Plenty of women have raised broods of children over the years – why is this family so special? Oh, lest I forget, now Nadya is receiving death threats…how pathetic. Thanks, media.

How come no one from the Pro-Life advocates are commenting on this? I mean if her fertility doctor had destroyed any embryos they would be screaming baby killer outside his office everyday and would do the same with the mother if she had decided to terminate any of children from the pregnancy. Why are pro-life advocates not supporting this doctor and this mother for creating 14 beautiful innocent lives? They should be screaming their support from the top of their lungs. She is the perfect poster mom for Pro-Life issues. Where is their Christian compassion for this woman who obviously loves children? Pro-life advocates believe that teenagers, rape victims all women regardless of circumstances should bring a child to term without pause yet this poor woman and now doctor has been left to fight these accusations and media war alone. Where are the masses screaming screaming for the choice of this Supermom? Where are they?

I used to watch Jon & Kate and occasionally the Duggars. No longer. I think it is they who are encouraging irresponsibility in the the wannabes, like Nadya Suleman. Jon & Kate receive a lot of things for free, so they are not an example of people living frugally. Most frugal people do not have the option to have a tv show and receive free trips to Hawaii. And, last but not least, many people would have been happy with twins and would NOT have gone on to have more fertility treatments to have more children. So, I don’t see how Kate can sit in judgment of Nadya Suleman.

HAS ANYONE REALLY BEEN LISTENING? THE TOT’S MON HAS TOLD EVERYONE THE WHOLE STORY. SHE EVIDENTLY NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLE GETTING PREGNANT BUT BY DOING INVITRO SHE HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF A MULTIPLE BIRTH WHICH WAS HER OBJECTIVE ALL ALONG. SHE ADMITS THAT EACH TIME 6 EGGS WERE IMPLANTED, AND EACH TIME SHE GOT PREGNANT. THE LAST PREGNANCY RESULTING IN TWINS. SO SHE TRIED IT AGAIN, AND AS SHE HAS SAID, IT CAME OUT PERFECT. HER WORDS! PERFECT MEANING SHE GOT WHAT SHE WAS AIMING AT ALL ALONG. MULTIPLE BABIES. THIS IS HER WAY TO STARDOM, AFTER ALL, ALL THE OTHER MULTIPLES HAVE TURNED IT INTO PAYDAY! JON & KATE, THE COUPLE WITH 18 CHILDREN, ETC. SHE SAW THIS HAS HER WAY TO THE BIG BUCKS AND SHE HAS DONE IT AND WE ARE ALL THE FOOLS FOR MAKING HER A STAR, BUT THEN WE MAKE ALL THE ODD PEOPLE AND THEIR ODD WAYS OF LIFE INTO STARS.

I agree with Frances Halperin COMPLETELY!!!. She did this wanting multiples and hoping she would become the next Jon&Kate. She would get a show, free stuff, money, ect…!! I watched Jon&Kate in the beginning. I saw I show last week, they have a new HUGE house, travel all the time, and get free services all the time. I’m not hating on them, by all means, get all the money and free stuff they can get out of it while their ride last. But the octuplets mom has brought 8 more innocent childern in the world on top of the 6 she already has and CAN NOT take care of, for her OWN SELFISHNESS.

Kaitlyn, I agree with your comment about Kate and her being judgmental. Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. With all due respect, Frances, if her objective was to have a multiples birth all along, and she got what she wanted, then why is it anyone’s business? At the end of the day, there are 14 children that have to be taken care of ~ period. All I keep hearing is people’s outrage and anger against the mother. I haven’t heard one positive thing said about the kids. After all, it is a miracle that they all survived.

Now that these babies have been born we need to put aside our feelings ,whatever they might be and embrace them into this world. These babies are here and they have six siblings however they may have been born. They are all God’s children. I have seen our local goverments take care of people that I thought they shouldn’t and they still do. What if MS. Suleman gets all kinds of media, book, and movie, or TV deals. At least they would be self sufficient,and MS.Suleman would not be relying on public assistance as so many are afraid of. Others have and I like to watch these families. They have important things to pass on and should be an encouragement to people that good things do happen. I do worry about the health in the long term for these children and plan on praying for them all. I have heard that MS. Suleman already has three medically handicapped from her previous children. Lets just leave them alone except to encourage good things and help as we would any other new birth. I pray for their health and encourage teir family to stay
focused and caring of each other.

I mean jon and kate plus eight wanted to have an extra child for there other children that they already had so there two twins can have a brother or sister and they know that with fertility they can have multiples (I think me personally that the duggar family is totally out of there mind)They never wanted the 6 but they got them and they had the money to raise them even before the show I mean jon worked for a computer and kate was a nurse but when they got the show she was able to quit but he still works and they dont travel every day once a month probably.I think the women who had the eight children is crazy and she had no right to do that. To her or her family.

Who cares if an individual or family can afford to have children in litters. Whether you’re homeless or incredibly wealthy you still have an obligation to not overpopulate the world with your offspring. Do the math. Eight kids…they have kids…their kids have kids…etc. All the while adding to the growing burden on the planet. Completely irresponsible.

Those who utilize IVF know that there is the possibility all embryos will take and they will have a multiples birth. With the octuplets mom, it’s my opinion she never should have had the procedure during her current situation – no job, living with parents, all ready having six children. It’s simply irresponsible to all – herself, her family and all the children.
I do love to watch Jon & Kate Plus 8, but I think about the safety of their children. They are making a lot of money for doing their show (see their new house?), but the whole world knows where they live, what their house and vehicle look like, what the children look like and their names. If it were me, I would worry about the safety of my family.
I do think that perhaps the octuplets mom thought the world would embrace her and she’d get financially comfortable, get free trips and things, like Jon & Kate. I still think that’s going to happen, because there will be a book on the octuplets mom, she’ll be on all kinds of talk shows, etc.

How can any one compare this wonderful family to the woman in California. Those babies need prayer and a miracle ……not bad words. For the mother ,much counseling and help .
As for John & Kate , much success but please dear Kate give John a
break and build him up and make him feel good about himself. You can get more out of him when you don’t dig at him as you do.
You are a fantastic mother, we all love you for that and you look fantastic. I can’t wait for your show to come on and see those precious angels do their things. Oh and your Collin, I also have a Colin David as a grandson a year old and he does just about the same things your Collin did at that age. Kate , I congratulate you for you taking care of those children and not deligating a child for each child.
I know each family has their own formula for working like clockwork
and the other family has good qualities. but I so admire the fact that you do lose it and you allow it to be shown. Please Kate, give
John a new beginning and let him be your equal , it doesn’t come across on the show. I really doubt if you honest realize it , you
can tell how much in love you are with him. Please , I hope I don’t sound like a scolding mother…….. I only want the best for your precious family.
Just please keep giving us more of your family and all the joys in your lives…….we do need something to watch and enjoy that is refreshing and see with our family and not be ashamed to watch.
I again applaude all who got your show on TLC and for your tolerating the public in your private life. God Bless.

I hope we’re not blinded by our compassionate feelings for her and the kids. I hope she won’t get any donation at all. I understand the kids need help. Make sure the KIDS are the ones who get helpe, NOT her! The best way to help the kids is to take them away from her. I don’t think they need their mother anyway, they’ll be better off taken away from her.

Some of the comments directed at Nadya Suleman are so cruel. Yes, she made a poor decision, but people are using her as scapegoat for the failed economy. We have been conditioned by the media to demonize single mothers instead the true culprits of our deteriorating economy: Wall St crooks. They have stolen trillions of dollars and now they are are about to raid Social Security.
Frankly, I hope Suleman gets a book deal or a reality show. Those babies need money for food and clothes.
Some people are getting angry that taxpayers might have to foot the bill for raising the children, but these same people do not want Suleman to receive any help from private sources either. They just want the family to suffer. How evil you are!

To Joanne: Octomom as already proven that she is totally financially irresponsible. She hoarded money from her last job as well as her disability payments to fund $100,000 in IVF Treatments. Once she started having children her responsibility became her existing children. Instead of paying to feed, clothe and house her children she chose to keep having children while her parents picked up the tab. Her own mother stated that Nadya has never give her any money in support of her own children, she just bought toys. Well, just what was Nadya observed doing last Friday, Feb 13th? Shopping for video games. Just how responsible is that when she has thousands of dollars in medical bill for just her own stay in the hospital, probably a $1.0 million dollar bill for the 8 babies, and 14 children to clothe, house and feed. It sure looks like her mother was right on the money (no pun intended) when she described her daughter. With 14 children Nadya still does not have her priorities straight. She should not receive so much as one penny from anybody or from andy deals. Instead any and all money should be put in a trust fund strictly for the benefit of the children. The trust fund should be managed by an independent third party and it should be audited regularly. Nadya should have to submit a detailed request for and disbursement and have to provide documentation verifying how any funds are spent. She has been acting like a child and needs to be treated accordingly. In addition, the state of California needs to assign a Guardian Ad Litem to oversee the best interests of the children. Nadya has gotten away with sticking her parents with the cost of raising the 6 older children.
Joanne, people do not want the children to suffer. They just want to make sure that they are protected from their own mother. If you watched the Dateline Interview, the 6 year old daughter came across as an unhappy little girl who had more of awareness of the family’s situation then her own mother. These children are not a circus act and the mother should not be allowed to turn them into one. I have not seen any evidence that the mother is capable of properly taking care of all of her children. If she can’t do it then the State of California needs to step in and find them all good homes. It is time for Nadya to step up to the plate and actually be a full time parent.

They should stop these family freak shows. Adults should not use their children to glamorize their greed.

I really hoped I would be able to find somewhere to voice my opinion on this situation. I agree that the mother has acted irresponsibly, but to send death threats or state the children should be taken away is worse in my eyes. If you read about anyone who has had large multiple births it was not the intention of the mother or the doctor. Even in this particular case two of the eggs split which is not the doctor or the mothers fault. I also don’t believe that selective reduction should even be brought up. I know I would never be able to decide whether one of my babies should get the chance to be born. No one has that right. But back to the matter. Yes she already had six children and her circumstances were not good. I don’t disagree with the irritation that of course brings to everyone. However, the children are here so what is the point of being angry now. Now is the time to make sure these children are taken care of by their mother. The idea about the trust fund makes sense to me and I hope people are not afraid to help out this family.
Her financial issues are a concern of the country, but is she really the problem. No. She didn’t cause the issues with the economy and to bring up the money she receives for her children’s disabilities is ridiculous. She is receiving that money just as any of us would if we had a child with those issues.
My concern is that someone who actually is crazy will take it upon themselves to do something to either the mother or one of her children. The negative articles or statements being made will only strengthen these feelings in people who are not sane enough to realize that no one truly wishes physical harm to this family.
Again the issue now is how will these children be taken care of which if you haven’t noticed was the same concern for every other family with large multiple births. Death threats and negative attitudes will not help anyone and will certainly not make it any easier for this mother to pick herself up and find a way to support her family. Instead of being hateful and just mean we should be offering possible solutions. And if a private donor wants to help out this family who cares. It’s not your tax money right?!?!? The children need it. It’s not about the mother anymore, but she carried and gave birth to 8 seemingly healthy babies (giving the premature births). Wow!! I only carried one at a time and that was difficult. Imagine carrying and giving life to 8 babies at one time. Anyone who does that deserves a little bit of credit.

I agree with everyone else that Nadya made a poor choice, but why is everyone coming down so hard on her she made a decision one in which I respect very much she chose to give life to each and everyone of those babies when there are women out there who are too coward to give birth to one. Everyone enjoys Jon & kate plus 8 is that because their married? I know single mothers get a hard time I once was a single mother. Do I agree with Nadya no but those babies are here now and deserve love and support. She is going to have a hard enough time as it is the last thing she needs is death threats. come on people what would Jesus do?

Sue – “women too coward to give birth to one?” Shame on you, particularly when you end your post with “what would Jesus do.” For one, Jesus would not be so nasty toward women who choose to be responsible with their capabilities to be mothers. There are women out there who cannot get pregnant. There are women who choose not to have children. There are women who choose to abort, sending the souls back to God to wait for parents who are able and willing to care for them. And no, you don’t know why all women abort, either. I’ve had a friend who had to abort because she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer within a week of finding out she was pregnant. People like you spit on her and screamed at her as she walked into the clinic, crying. She WAS doing the right thing. (that experience turned her to pro choice).
And no, not everyone enjoys Jon & Kate Plus 8. Many of us think that all of those shows are disgusting exploitations of children.
Nadya’s children should be removed from her home and brought to people who are able to care for them properly – by having a stable income, for having a home that’s clean, and by having a system of support that this mentally ill woman cannot provide.

I love Jon and Kate Plus 8 and I feel they are doing an awesome job with there kids!! They couldn’t have children on their own so they had help but they did it responsibly because their children are all doing great and 1 of the two of them are always home with them and that is great!! I have Epilepsy and I wanted children since I was a teenager and I had 2 very beautiful children that God blessed me with but then I stopped because I figured I was very Bless with the 2 beautiful healthy babies I had I had no more because with my condition I didn’t know how my life was going to end up and I didn’t want a bunch of kids for someone to have to raise!!!! God has blessed us and we are all still here and my kids are now both teenagers but some people may think I am selfish because I had kids with what was wrong with me but I don’t care cause I was responsible for both of my kids and been a single mother for over 9 years now and we are doing ok so I guess I can’t be called selfish but I can be called a mother!!!!!!!!!!

The Gosselin’s children were *not* conceived via in vitro. Get the facts before you write.

MOM OF MULTIPLES:
UMMM…. YES THEY WERE! KNOW YOUR FACTS!!! READ THIS PAGE IN FACT, THIS WAS COPIED FROM THE TOP OF THIS PAGE……
“Jon & Kate Plus 8.” Kate and her husband are currently raising a pair of twin girls and sextuplets–all conceived via in vitro, as Suleman’s children are.

Melissa did I spit on anyone no, I do not stand outside of abortion clinics screaming or slandering mothers who choose to abort. Every person has their own oppnion or reason as to why they choose to abort. I do however know several women (not refering to your friend) who abort their precious unborn babies as a form of birth control and that is WRONG and yes Coward and no I can safely say God does not appreciate that. You are right in saying God may not be so mean to these women, and yes I do tend to become a little hasty when on this subject but that is something God is helping me with. I apoligize for offending you because God would not want me to hurt anyone either.Every sin is judged equally in Gods eyes and I never claimed to be perfect. I do have respect for Nadyia for choosing life for those babies no one should be in control of life or death but God. As for the several comments made by some about single mothers lets hold our tongue before slandering single mothers what about the fathers who up and leave their children not always the mothers fault huh! Some of the very best parents I know are single mothers probably not by their choice. I was a single mother at the age of 17 my childs father suddenly vanshied when he found out he was going to be father. By the way Melissa my father wanted me to have an abortion. I chose life and Thank God I did I have been blessed with a wonderful son who is now 13.

First, I am wondering who paid for Suleman’s fertility treatments to become pregnant, if her parents are bankrupt and she is on welfare (I think)? Second, as far as I understand it, Mrs. Suleman really wanted more kids, but IMO it was not the responsible thing to do, seeing as she and her parents have virtually no money to even raise the kids she already had. Aside from getting pregnant naturally, I believe there should be a limit put on how much fertility treatment a woman should get (to become pregnant) for those women/ couples who are on an extremely low income (to avoid them with more children then they can afford). I think that if Suleman can, she should get a job and have her parents (if they are willing) take care of her children when she works.

Actually, the Gosselin’s kids were NOT concieved via in vitro, they have made that very clear. They were conceived via IUI, another form of assited reproductive technology. My husband and I have also used IUI and I assure you, it is quite different from IVF. See the link above, from the Gosselin’s website.

Kate does not cook. Jon and Kate are nothing but a bunch of frauds.
They are fooling everyone around the states, but they are not fooling anyone here in PA.

In the original version of this blog post, I incorrectly stated that Kate Gosselin underwent in vitro fertilization. I’ve updated the post to note that she actually underwent Intrauterine Insemination (IUI), a different infertility treatment. My apologies for this error in fact.

IVF or IUI ~ there’s still a risk of multiples. I too underwent IVF and have a beautiful son as a result. I knew that there was a chance of a multiple birth occurring as well, and I was prepared to handle that if it happened. True – both my husband and I work and support ourselves, and can afford to care and take care of our children. But to say that Nadya’s children should be taken away from her and calling her unfit is a cruel and prejudice thing to say. Dig deep down inside of yourselves and ask what your problem really is.

Yep,PAer got it right. I am in the Gosselins town. No on here for the most part likes them. Kate is a very snotty and not so nice person. All she cares abut is pimping out here kids for money… Christians? give me a break. They haven’t been in a church except to speak for money for a looong time.

I agree with Kam that people should examine themselves to see why they are so opposed to the Octuplet Mom. At least the woman wanted her children and really loves them. There are many children in “traditional” two-parent households who are not loved or wanted, and the public should not be so judgmental toward someone who is a bit unconventional. Today so many people favor singleness and careers over marriage and children, and many family lines are dying out as a result. These singles should realize their talents, education, and wealth will die with them as well, and then who will benefit from all their work and effort? People who have been critical of the Octuplet Mom need to put their time and effort into supporting a charity or some other worthy cause so that they themselves can have a positive effect on the public. Let the Octuplet Mom enjoy her life and her children as she wishes.

When people make comments about Nadya and how it was irresponsible for her to have children she couldn’t afford, yet in the next breath praise Jon and Kate Gosselin I actually laugh. The Gosselins couldn’t afford the two children they already had, yet they decided to go ahead with risky fertility treatments that they knew had a high probability of multiples. She said so herself in an interview with the 700 Club that they couldn’t afford the twins let alone six more kids. How are they any different? They went ahead with their irresponsible plan and then begged for donations and anything else they could receive (and were NOT gracious recipients either) and now have turned their family and children into “the family job” as Kate puts it to make money. Eight kids is alot, but not impossible. There are plenty of families who have many children and are able to support them with regular jobs. In the Gosselin’s case, they want every child bringing in the paycheck so that neither parent has to work a regular job and that is just shameful. Simply shameful…and I can’t believe that churches, websites about faith and the like are associating with this couple and glorifying what amounts to no more than parental irresponsibility and laziness at the expense of eight childhoods.

I think everybody should leave the mom alone. It was HER choice to have more kids, so it’s HER responsibility and problems, no anyone else’s. I also believe that everyone should stop trying to talk to her, say negative things about her, be judgemental, etc. Think about how hard your life would be if you were in this situation.

I agree with Kam about looking deep into ourselves and asking why the anger with the octuplet mom. Sure taxpayers will end up paying for her but what don’t we pay for these days?? There’s some many other ridiculous expenses why get on her (nadia) case? And no one really knows what is going on in her head so lets not judge so quickly.

Nadya, you were out buying ‘designer lipgloss’ today. No more lipgloss for you, you lost that privilege 12 kids back. If you held each of your newborns for a mere hour each day, it wouldn’t be enough, and it totally neglects your other six. Pre-term newborns need a lot of extra care as they are physically and neurologically unready, have a host of developmental delays, and always need a lot of extra help throughout childhood. There aren’t enough hours in a day to properly care for these 14 children – yet you speak of returning to school and work. We realize that you don’t have any problem imposing on your parents, and have likely contributed to their financial ruin. You blew a small fortune on artifical inseminaton rather than plan for your 6 children’s orthodontics and college. Who will shop, cook, wash clothes? Oh, I remember, you’ll just continue wearing out your parents. The reason people are so upset with you is that you deliberately condemned 14 children to the unhappy situation of never getting the attention and care they deserve. Which is sadly ironic, since you say your own childhood was unhappy. People will step in to help. But not because of you and your shiney new lips. They’ll help because these children deserve better than the mess-of-a-life you’ve orchestrated for them.

To: Jen
You should really consider not making comments that aren’t true just to get your point across. I have personally met Jon and Kate they are the most gracious people I have ever met, and they also raise money for Pediatric Cancer, proceeds from their website also go to this cause. The octuplet mother has been quoted saying she wants to be a tv star and she used her uterus to gain this fame. The difference between her and kate is she intentionally brung children into this world for gain, kate did not intenionally ask the doctor for her sextuplets. She chose to keep them because of her faith, she has also been quoted saying she wouldn’t have more. The other mother already has six kids and she selfishly brung 8 kids into the world that she couldn’t take care of! She also plans to live off of her financial aid refund. The Gosslin family is full of love and everyone can tell that is why their family is well supported and loved by millions. So please don’t go after good people for the sake of your uninformed opinion.

I think it is highly unfair to criticize Ms. Suleman and very hypocritical of Kate G to do the same, if you are going to in any way compare the two.
In a recent interview while on a three-day get-a-way (hardship?) to a ski resort in Utah, Jon G admitted to a television reporter he had lost his job and Kate quit hers while pregnant with six children.
In other words, neither parent was working when Kate was pregnant (and other reports actually say Jon lost his job BEFORE Kate became pregant). There are also questions about how they came to have six children and some reports suggest they went against doctors orders, which resulted in the multiples. At least in Nadya’s case, she was following her doctors orders rather than going against them, as in the Gosselin case.
In addition, Nadya had a set of parents at home — MORE than the Gosselins – - who had none.
Also, in this very, very recent and lengthly interview with the Utah TV station, Jon also admits that they have NO grandparents actively involved in the children’s lives. Kate’s parents are non-existent and he claims not to know why. This is very odd.
So, it seems as if Ms. Suleman actually has MORE people around her, including her parents and at least one of them is working, the father.
So, again, people cannot assume they know everything about a situation and criticize one family, while admonishing another.
For my Christian and moral family, we had to make the decision to pull the plug on the Jon and Kate show.
What started out as a family-friendly show has quickly deteriorated into a half-hour of Kate and her harangues at her husband, about chores, the kids, you name it. Her actions go beyond having disagreements or “normal” banter with the husband.
She contantly belittles him, degrades him and attempts to humiliate him at every turn. She also has some pretty harsh things to say about her own children, such as her daughter’s teeth, or another’s constant whining. No child should be subject to having a parent talk about them in such a manner, much less taped for all eternity where there will never be an escape from such cruelty…never.
That is not Christian behavior and not normal husband/wife behavior, except for those that are heading for a divorce.
I think she needs some serious marital counseling and to find some work to keep her at home more with her children.
In the same Utah TV interview, Jon talks about her being away in New York all the time on “business.”
So, by their own admission, the mother is rarely home and when she is, then the father is away.
What started out as an occasional look inside their lives has grown to full-blown exploitation of the children (and they can deny this all they want – but it is now clear – - the children have no interest in being filmed and that alone makes it exploitation).
I don’t believe it is Christian to exploit your own children for monetary gain. They no longer just follow them around and capture moments, but stage entire productions in their lives, whether it is a staged outing in the forest or to Utah for a ski vacation – it is all staged – and this is not normal for the development of a child.
In addition – now the children and parents are being mocked and made fun of on national tv shows like “Talk Soup” and Youtube, internet blogs and other tv shows.
The parents should recognize that this is extremely damaging to their children and they cannot shield them from what is permanantly on the internet. For that reason alone, they should stop exploiting their children and try to live more private lives.
It’s such a shame, because they were all so likable, but TLC and the parents have simply chosen to ignore what is in the best interest of the children (PRIVACY) at this time, and really only seem interested in making money off their chileren, robbing them of their childhood and innocence all at the same time.
If you have any question as to Kate’s so-called “Christian” behavior toward her children, please watch the following very recent interview and remember, when you see her abusing her one little girl, this was shown, LIVE, on National Television, as well as the tv commentator’s equally appalling remarks. Kate is shown forcefully grabbing and yanking at one little girl’s shoulder to keep her quiet — for what? a tv interview — how cruel! (and you can see how it hurt as the little child is seen rubbing her tiny shoulder and arm after this cruel and abusive gesture by her mother)
(also note the girls’ hesitancy at the end to comment on their mother).
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4764337n#Post
Thank you for this forum and I sincerely hope the editor thinks twice about publishing the rest of his interview, and perhaps does some research on this family and perhaps just watch the show and this woman’s behavior. I think you will reconsider. Not the Christian message you want to be sending to your readers.

I think that the octuplet mom is crazy and needs mental help because she’s already had enough kids. The public shouldn’t help her finacially. I definatly won’t help that insane woman.

To Elaine and others:
Let me start by saying that I have personally never met the Gosselins’ and I do not have 8 children. So my knowledge of raising 8 kids is non existent. But I have watched Jon and Kate Plus 8 and I did watch the interview by CBS, and I have a child of my own. Raising children is never easy. You are constantly wondering if you are doing the right thing by disciplining them this way or should you do it that way. It is difficult with just one! On the interview when Kate grabbed the little girls shoulder you can clearly hear that the kids are being kids and being LOUD. Kate did what any parent would do after telling her children to be quiet several times, she took a firm grip looked at her child in the eyes and told her to behave. Should she have let them take over and be insane, which can happen very easily with little ones? No one really knows the perfect way to raise kids. Parents make mistakes all the time, but you always try to do the best and keep your kids in mind. Oh and their mics went out at the end of the interview. The twins said exactly what they thought after they heard the question.
Now about Jon and Kate’s relationship. THEY ARE LIVING IN HIGH STRESS!!! It’s human to get aggravated when you have 6 small children running around. Then add Kate’s ocd like cleaning and organizing… it’s going to get a bit crazy. Obviously they care very much about their children and each other, just watch how they interact with one another without the kids.
When two people are thrown into a situation such as this you adapt and do the best you can. They do not spank their children and they are not beating their children. I am very happy that they have been blessed to have received the opportunities that they have. I believe that they are doing a very good job instilling morals, obedience, and love into their children.
But like I said in the beginning, I don’t know the Gosselins’ and I do not have 8 children and neither does most of America.

IVF and IUI are completely different procedures. the gosselin’s did IUI and Suleman did IVF. IVF you have way more control over how many offspring you will have whereas IUI you don’t have any control. Please get this straight everyone!!!! To implant more than a few embryos with IVF should be illegal and to think a doctor would allow it and a patient would be dense enough accept boggles the mind….

i think that its a wonderfull thing to bring children in to the world, she wanted a big family and now she has one. yeah the oct. mom may be on food stamps but look at all the mexicans with huge familys and also on foodstamps and welfare.and as the gosselins go i think they have worked hard to raise their family and they have done a good job.

Hello All,
To comment on Elain’s comment – I watched that video and as a mother I do believe that Kate did a great job to stop her child from acting out you failed to mention that Her daughter was touching and annoying her Brother. I would like to know do you have a child? Have you ever had to get thier attention if you do and have then you would understand that a mother will have to do what it ttakes in reason to get thier attention. I agree with Amber, Kate did what was nessacary to keep her child under control. I have to comment on this also Kate and Jon may or may not have had jobs when they got preg but they have a mother and a fater that loves thier children. I am not pro or con for the oct Mom but I do believe that if she wanted a large family and that she knows when schooling is finished she can support her family she should have waited until she was completed with school before getting pregnant. That would have been the logical thing to do I hope that she makes it in this harsh world, also I hope that everyone backs off and lets this women raise her children the way she feels fit. As for Kate stop the jeliousy She is a great mother and has a great amount of Love for all her children!

I think Nadia is an embarassment to anyone whose ever had to use any kind of fertility assistance! Fertility treatments are a great thing when used appropriately! The drs who allowed her to do this should be as embarrased and she should be! It’s one thing to end up with octuplets its another to end up with octuplets after having 6 other kids! Not to mention a disgrace to those other kids! I think that John & Kate Gosselin life an unrealistic life for their circumstances and that Nadiya bought into that, and wanted to be a part of that. I do think that Nadiya should have ALL of her children taken away rather than offer some stupd program that tax payers have to pay for! Thank god she cant have kids on her own so she cant do this again!

Sorry Elaine,
But please note that not all Mexicans have six kids and not all of them are on public assistance.
Nadiya is obviously suffering from some mental disorder because she feels the need to be motherly. She is obviously filling a void that is not filled and for some reason feels that having all these children are giving her this unconditional love that she needs.
Unfortunately, her grip on reality is off and doesn’t seem to see that having kids and raising them is demanding physically, mentally and financially.

no not all mexicans do have 6 kids and on a progam, but most do.take alook around. & taking the kids away and putting them in different homes is still going to cost the tax payers money.how do you think that the foster parents get paid?

what she has done is very selfish, with the current crisis and lack of natural resources, families should be limited to 2 kids maximum, she only thinks of not being lonely, but at what price..

I’ve gotta say – and I love Jon & Kate – that I’ve always wondered about their choice to have septuplets. What infertility doctor did THEY have that would transfer that many embryos?
I did in vitro and, believe me, our fertility doctor was only willing to transfer two embryos! I had to lobby hard for three, because it was our last chance.
Thankfully, we were blessed with twins and it all worked out. But, women aren’t meant to have litters. It seems very irresponsible to me. Fertility doctors need to stand firm with regard to transferring the smallest nubmer of embryos possible in order for a woman to have one viable pregnancy.

I too had IVF and was blessed with my son as a result. My Dr. only transferred 3 embryos, because of my womb size, I would be able to carry all three. But, there was a woman that was there with me and had the transfer the same day as I did, and he transferred 8 embryos. What the “media” fails to tell anyone is that the “quality” of the eggs may not be up to par (2-3 cell embryos) and the likelihood of one, let alone all of them, attaching is very slim. Generally, the Dr’s. do not transfer that many, and anyone that has gone through the process is well aware of this. But the media doesn’t tell the people about this. They’re so one sided…

Please note that the Gosselins had their children through Intrauterine Insemination (IUI), which is a drastically different procedure than Invitro Fertilization (IVF). In IUI, the husband’s (or other donor’s) sperm is injected directly into the mother’s uterus to facilitate fertilization. It is NOT the same as IVF, where embryos are implanted!

Why doesn’t anyone want to help that girl? It’s obvious that she is going to need assistance. Maybe someone can start a bank account with special overseers help her get food and clothing etc and help with the daily care. If everybody who was ticked off with her, sent a dollar or two, she might get enough to be able to raise her children. It would have to be a special group or a lawyer or such..

I have a hard time accepting the fact that God meant for her to have anymore children, so I must disagree with her and her doctors decision. She couldn’t take care of the ones she had. The offers of money to a mother of so many is probably attractive to someone with none. I don’t have much, but there is no amount that would make me endanger one child much less multiples. I have to think “those poor kids”…need a good home and it may not be with their birth mom.

Jon & Kate are this decade’s Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker

Jon all over the web for going out and getting frisky with college co-eds. I think all “material” is affecting the spiritual. Really don’t think they should be asked an opinion on anything until their lives get straightened out.

Funny thing during Intra-Uterine Fertilization during Kate Gosselins last treatment. If you read her book “Multiple Blessings” in it the Doctor told Kate she had 4 viable follicles/eggs maybe more!! and yes this woman who knew that the eggs CAN split resulting in twins went ahead anyway. That right there is VERY irresponsible. I’m sorry but the Gosselins are not a good example of Christian values in my opinion, as scripture tells me to treat my husband with love and respect and I can not see that during their show and now change the channel. I don’t want my children to see that making fun of a spouse and belittling him is an acceptable behavior towards one’s spouse. I should of turned it off for good when one one episode Kate told her children “don’t listen to daddy, he’s mean.” I pray that this show ends..the children can have whats left of their childhood without cameras in their faces, and the parents get marriage counseling as by Jon’s photographed actions,they need it.

I love Jon & Kate plus8 and i’m sorry that the show is ending.
I wished there was more involvement of Kate’s and Jon’s family with the children on the show ie uncles and aunts and grand parents etc.
There is nothing christian about Kate. She belittles Jon on a regular basis and seems to grasp every opportunity to bruise Jon’s ego and make him seem dumb. Jon on the other hand is more christian. He tolerates Kate’s antics……when he eventually leaves her for another woman who appreciates and respects him more, Kate should not complain!……have some fun if you want to Jon, because you must be heaven sent to put up with a wife who tells the kids and the hired help “not to listen to daddy” and to “disregard everything” that you Jon said.
Kate & Jon your family is lovely, and you both love your kids and are good parents, but, your husband and wife relationship needs a lot of work.

i do feel that God has a purpose for every life and i don’t feel that she acted irresponsibly because that decision was God’s plan for her and i believe that she KNEW it. i do, however, believe that she would be acting irresponsibly and would be disgracing her children and her self if she made an “adult film.” that is just not something that you do when you have children, especially young ones.

Wow. Laurie and “Your Name”, you guys must be perfect spouses. I, for one, am definitely guilty of mistreating my husband and getting snippy with my three-year-old (both of whom I love more than anything in the world). It’s not Christian-like behavior, but that certainly doesn’t mean I’m not a Christian.
I think as imperfect as Jon & Kate’s relationship is (and whose isn’t), it’s obvious that they love each other and their children.
Their lives are on tv for the world to see, and of course that means viewers like us feel entitled to judge them–which if I recall isn’t very Christian-like either.

I’m surprised to see their show is ending, but to be honest, I stopped watching it a while back, so it shouldn’t have been that much of a surprise. It started out with them at home, doing every day things, and turned into ‘which trip are they going on now’. That’s boring. Everyone can go on a trip and do trip things, but to be home and homely and happy, and come up with stuff to do there and grow as a family….that’s original. Kate got ‘showoffy’, she seems to have lost herself. I don’t care for that, I can see that anywhere. Same thing happened with the 17 and counting family. It’s all about packing up and going somewhere. I want to see everyday survival stuff if I’m going to watch anything. lol

First off comparing hte Gosslins to the single mother having octuplets is like comparing oil to vinager!!! As a married, working mother of three children, who pays taxes,I think that what Kate Gosselin does in her life is awesome! She has a husband that is a little immature, but he is there for her, and his children 100% !!! She has eight adorable, healthy, happy children, that she is raising better than other parents who have maybe one or two children. They do not receive any type of public assistance, and if I recall correctly, it was not until about a year and a half ago that Jon Gosselin was able to stay at home with Kate to help take care of his children. They are an awsome family, who are real people, dealing with alot for not only our entertainment, but providing for a family of 10. Anyone that would condemn them for having those beautiful children are straight up loss in the sauce!!!

I am very sadden to know that the show is going off air… I looked foward to watch the show every week along with my 2 year old who loves the show also…I would love to continue to see the kids grow up threw out the years but, if it put Jon & Kate threw all this drama which is expected with all the tabloids out there makeing up senseless rumors that they like to do to all celeberties. To me it’s just to get all of us americans to buy into it soo they can make money [give in take some true stuff,and then their is the lies]I wish them and the family the best and God Bless them through out there lives.Please reconsider your thought in signing another contract to continue your show. Ignore all that drama and continue to make your show as if you were the only ones there,so you continue your memorbila.Good Luck,from a concerned veiwer

The shows not ending..when Jon was out showing his Christian values by getting publicly drunk, Sorry everyone who thinks this isn’t true.
Jons picture is all over the web of him out plastered.
And when under the influence he told everyone withing ear shot he had already signed for season 5!
How the Divorce rumor all started was because of Jon saying he and Kate were getting divorced when he was in the bar drunk.
Tho it may have been the alcohol talking it gave a hint of what the man may be feeling towards his spouse and the show.
I find it sad that both the Gosselins would act in such un-scripturally manners. Kate most of all, being the daughter of a Pastor and how she treats her husband.

Marcia,
Jesus got drunk. He sat around the equivalent of a pub with prostitutes and thieves and had real conversations and real mugs of wine. He cared about those people and some became his most well known disciples and followers. The “righteous” men of the day condemned him, his behavior and his choice of friends. Didn’t stop Jesus.
I’ve never seen the show in question but I’m glad that G-d is not as condemning as you or there would be NO hope in the world.
As for the Octuplet mom – what she did was irresponsible. Society can’t share in that – you have to become responsible for the sake of those children and find ways to help – not hurt the kids. Foster care WOULD hurt the kids – always does. The state makes a very poor parent.

I really enjoy watching Jon and Kate plus 8 with my 3 year old and I am sorry that the program might be over. I am also sorry to hear that they might be going through some hard times. I wish that everyone remembers that in these times as always it is hard to keep a family together and that everyone is human and has a right to make mistakes and hopefully we learn from them and move on. As for the Suleman family I am sorry that she could be so selfish as to get pregnant again after having 6 children. She obviously didn’t think about here parents or her other children. I have two children one 3 and another older I am married and I feel I don’t have enough time to spend with them so I can’t imagine what kind of situation is over in her house. I feel in the long run the children will suffer either academically and emotionally.

I don’t think we are here to be her judge and jury –but do I think she made a wise decision not really ,but she seems to love her children and I was from a family of 16 kids all but one by single births and the difference was we had loving parents(father and mother) and we all did well. I feel that her children will miss out by not having a father figure in their lives, but maybe that could change. She is going to have her hands full and she is going to need lots of prayers cause the good times are now wait till the teenage years —whoa heaven help her she is going to need a angel for real to be guiding her then. Let us not judge but keep her in prayer and hope that the right decisions will be made for each and every child . As we know quality time is not going to be much for any of the children and from experience from time to time you need that special time with your parent. It will be a very difficult thing for her to accomplish with the children being so close in age and having her hands so full with all the other daily needs. We must continue to keep her in prayer and the children as well that each of their needs are met. In God’s name may she and her family be blessed.

I don’t know what is going on, I will have to UTUBE it, GAWD knows everyone is in everyone’s business DUE TO U TUBE and all the other public things….so what he got DRUNK, I have a time or two as well! GET A LIFE PEOPLE, it floors me TRULY floors me the people who are so judgemental and are usually doing WORSE! GET OVER IT, everyone has hard times, I a married woman of ONLY TWO children and I sometimes LOOSE IT, and yes, I sometimes have a beer or two…not often I haven’t probably in years, but my point is this…..I don’t know what is going on haven’t read, but EVERYONE has HARD times, that is what the LORD wants us to learn through endurance, we can learn perserverance and become STRONGER and apperciate our happier times then………I hope Jon and Kate get this one thing…..LIVE your LIFE, ENJOY your LIFE, and don’t worry about the neighbours words, usually he is saying those mean words to make his own wrong doing LOOK BETTER! If you are having problems so be it, every, every MARRIAGE HUMAN has problems, it is called LIFE….I hope you will reconsider for your family go through the program and continue with pride, there is no reason to ever give-up because of PEOPLE………Good LUCK and GOOD BLESS you …..all!

I think Kate and John due a wonderful job. All marriages have a crisis or go through tough times, even with 2 or 3 children it can be stressful. I cannot imagine having 8 children, Kate is remarkable in the kitchen also. About Nadya, I think she is a very selfish person. How can you possibly give 6 or 7 children enough of your time, and being single, God help her. I know the plan was not to have 8 babies; but if they all want all to eat, have tummy aches etc. she cannot possibly fulfill their needs. She needs all the help she can get and her parents deserve to a life of their own beside helping out with 14 grandchildren, they are her responsibility. As for the doctor; he should lose his license for helping her, 6 children are enough to give attention to, clothe, feed and get educated, what is wrong with him and Nadya I think is mentally incompetent to fire the nurses, etc.

I love watching the show “Jon and Kate + 8″ It is very good and even tho kate is a cranky pants she has a right to be. She is probaly very tired after a day with them. And to make matters worse people like aunt jodi are bien very mean about the show!!!!! Hope you like the show!!!

wow you have a wonderful life with your marriage and have a family. i am hearing imparied. we did watch your show on tv everyday. i love to see how your kids grow up and have a great sucess life.

I have to agree with some previous comments. I, too, used to enjoy watching Jon & Kate + 8. Unfortunately, I no longer find it entertaining. This “family” show has begun highlighting only 1:Kate. She seems to enjoy degrading and humiliating Jon..it happens every episode..in front of the kids, crew, rolling camera’s and viewers. Can you imagine how Kate treats Jon when the camera’s aren’t rolling? What message does she send to their kids? Of course, everyone has a bad day, but it shouldn’t be an excuse and/or reason to treat a loved one disrespectfully. Hopefully, Kate will realize the unflattering influence she boasts and showcases. She certainly doesn’t hesitate to point out flaws in others. Finally, JOHN : GET SOME BACKBONE. LEARN TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF, DON’T ALLOW TO BE TALKED TO, BULLIED & TREATED LIKE A CHILD. GET SOME PRIDE. You deserve to be happy in your own home, and in life. Set an example not only for your sons, but all of your kids.

I used to love watching the show. Now I don’t care to watch Kate’s rude and degrading behavior towards Jon. Kate should set a good example for her children to follow and she is not doing so. When I saw the show aired April 19, 2009, I could not believe how rude Kate was to the head contractor who was in charge of the green renovations to their new home. For someone claiming to have christian values she does not appear to display those value. It is very sad.

I can see that you receive many negative comments about the way Kate treats Jon. Yes, it comes accross pretty harsh at times but the more that I watched, the more I enjoyed and actually learned a few things. I have been married for over 35 years. Watching your progrom reminds me of my own marriage, only the personalities are reversed. Throughout my marriage and life I have learned that everything needs balance. You have that. You have balance in your relationship. Where one leaves off the other picks up the slack. We all think differently, we see things differently. Arguing is healthy, if we listen and learn from our arguments. Respecting each other’s opinion is very important. Children also need to know that arguing can be contructive and that, yes we still love each other afterwards. I pray that you enjoy a long and happy marriage.

in reading about kate and jon- i hope and pray their family will get through this crisis. betrayal and infidelity are events that many marriages can’t survive.

I think Kate degrades Jon at every turn and belittles him and his ideas. She is no expert and her ideas are not the only way to do things. I wont watch the show any longer and feel very sorry for the children knowing they have no chance of becoming independant thinkers with a mother like her.

I enjoyed watching the show. But, I can understand why Jon might seek apprval and understanding from someone other than Kate. She seems to exude a no-nonsense atttude in dealing with not only her children, but also her husband. I find it interesting that an intelligent, pretty, and loving person has turned into someone quite different as her fame has grown! She seems to be a bit of a “PRIMA DONNA”, and treats her husband as if HE were another smallchild of hers! How sad! A marriage should be a give & take, and No ONE person should try to CONTROL the other person, as Kate seems to do with Jon.
Occasionally Jon seems to get fed up with her continuous “PUT-DOWNS” of him! GOOD FOR HIM!! About freaking time! LOL If they don’t get some serious marriage counseling I’m afraid the might be headed for Divorce Court. I was married to a “CONTROLLER” guy, who was significantly older than myself. We weremarried2 weeks shy of 28 yrs. So, we had a good run! Buthe tred to micro-manage EVERYTHING in his LIFE, including me!! Ultimately, he claimed that I was the one who had changed! Well, I hope to shout that over a period of 28 yrs I certainly would like to think that I had changed & grown! Meanwhile he remained stuck in his rigid thinking of WHO & What I should be, say, think, act,…etc..you get the idea! He still has yet to come to the realization that the “ONLY” person you can ultimately control is “YOURSELF” and how you react to those around you!
Anywhoo, I think they Jon & Kate could use some marital counseling in helping each of them through this difficult time! And I fervently hope & Pray that they recognize this not only for themselves & their relationship, but also for the sake of their children, and their future.

I think that thier marraige has gone to hell and the children are going to suffer. She thinks she is some kind of queen and needs to be knocked down a few notches. Cheating is never right but I wouldn’t blame him as she is not a wife but a dominatrix..

For someone who is supposely to be living on a budget has a lot. I use to watch the show but Kate’s attitude and how she treats her husband turned me off of the show. How about making reality shows what really goes on living in this world, those who are struggling, those who lost their jobs. I am one of the siblings of 16 children that my momma and poppa had and they did did not broadcast it. Although 10 children are no longer with us anymore I strongly believe that family privacy is not private anymore. I stop watching the show because Kate attitude and her thinking she better then everybody else. All this attention now that this show is getting from T.V. viewers I believe it is to get ratings. Let the children be children.

I think he needs a backbone to stand up to her. She may have a lot of responseabillity and I don’t belittle that but if a man does not stand up to a woman she soon looses respet for him and forgets her center I say to him it must be hard to forget ur spine and it’s hard to live withouth one.A man should always be a man weather among men and espacilly amoung women
Be strong BUT FAIR RESPECTFUL BUT MANLY PUT HER IN CHECK
Wayne

Kate needs some one to take her out behind the barn for a good beating.She thinks her crap doesn’t stink. She is crazy. The show should be taken off tv and put to rest. She is using her kids instead
of getting a real job. The first show was good abd then it’s awful now. And what arethose kids going through in school? I bet every one makes fun of them. I’m am saying this for every one that gets sick
when it’s on Take them off the air. Give Jon an award for putting up with her for this long. Take the kids from her so she can’t use them any more and get rid of Kate.

About Christina’s advice above, It’s hard to follow advice from someone who has failed in marriage whether they were married 14 years, or 28 years don’t you think? Anyone would rather follow advice from someone who is still married after 28 years and still happy because they could see that couple are winning through their struggles and of course qualified to advise others on how to win and be happy through their struggles as well. Failure is failure whether you fail after a few years or 28. ” A good run”? Longevity has no “bragging” rights in this venue unless it has not come to an end. Your comments would be better taken if you hadn’t revealed your failure in marriage. I failed in marriage too, but I don’t look at is as qualification to advise only understanding.

To all of you haters .
This woman .. which is a woman .. Kate .. she is doing what we all Mothers , daughters and wife … DO ….. Jon is who he is and GOD KNOW WHO WE ARE… So all of you BACK OFF.. you wish you were in her shoes.. THIS IS A STONG WOMAN OF GOD… A NO ONE IS PERFECT.. .. BYE haters…. hahaah

i think kate’s brother and sister in law need to stay out of it. let them handle things on their own.

I like Kate and her philosophy. I doubt the wisdom, however, of having kept all six of those pregnancies going. Looking at them now, the kids are all lovable, but this is after they are here. I suspect that Jon gives his all for the children and doesn’t have enough left for Kate and that is why her face pats so often end in little slaps. The needs of all those kids have taken away from their own relationship–which isn’t a new story for young parents. My hope for the family is that the adults can get it together again.

Holy cow…some anger here or jealousy? The first couple of posters need to really step back and read what they said! Yuck!
You dont have to like Kate or Jon or the fact that they have a reality TV show but I know for a fact they have put themselves out on the line and opened themselves up for public scrutiny but in the process they have helped many a young family! And even a few of us old cats.
What has happened to them is very sad and before you start throwing rocks you had better clean up your own back yard.
They statments made where cruel and just show ignorance. Save yourselves and zip your lip. You cant take things back once you say them and God has a way of helping us see our wrongs. In other words…..you reap what you sow.
Good luck to the Gosselins …Ill be praying for you.

Really?? Do you honestly think by reading these tabloids and reading People and US Weekly you’re going to figure out the mystery? Have you ever considered that these two have private lives outside of what little of their lives are taped for television. But, we have to know….it Kate cheating….is Jon cheating. YOU’RE NEVER GOING TO KNOW! The only two that will ever know that is Jon and Kate. Until they hold a 10pm news conference on every major news channel you’re not going to know for sure. So let’s leave this in Jon and Kate’s capable hands. They are good Christian people that can make adult decisions. Last time I checked it was not a decision they asked for help in. Let it go and find a new hobby.

maybe these women will go to heaven for saving lives that could have been aborted or “reduced”. i know i would never, never want that many babies inside me. i would of had a reduction and aborted one or more babies so i only had one or two babies left. it is dangerous what these women go through and they truely believe they are saving these souls from abortion. so i would end up in hell possibly for aborting or reducing if i were in that situaation. now, what if abortion was illegal? there would be many families with multiple blessings. because if you chose to do fertility treatments, then it is a possiblity that if you don’t abort some, you will end up with many. in the meantime, lets not call these women crazy for having so many children when they believe they are saving lives- and they are.
so good luck to all women who do not choose to reduce. because i don’t know what kind of karma comes with aborting a “wanted” baby.

i hear a lot of people talking badly about octomom because quote “the state is paying for it”. do you know what else the state pays for? war. if we can afford billions of dollars on liberating other countries, then the state can help these women who need assistance. if we do not raise these children properly, we will have felons in our communities. maybe there should be somekind of limit on the number of children you can have that can qualify for welfare. like 3 is a good number. i mean starting now, not to all the families that are already receiving it. you don’t want to disrupt those families that you have already enabled.

The saddest thing about Mom Suleman is her selfishness not thinking about her children’s future. I feel she was self-motivated in her choice,probably thinking the community would heap admiration,$$$’s,support and popularity for her choice. I pray for the environment,influence of surrounding mentors and a buffer from the media hype for each of the children. I also feel the idiotic greedy physician should be footing a portion of blame if not monetary retribution for providing the ability to have so many children to such a single mom. without checks for stability,financial impact and responsibility such as when you adopt a child ; no such procedure should be allowed. Only way that will change is if each of us makes it known to our community leaders whether in town meeting or congregations or neighborhood get togethers. Deeply Sad

Holy crap people. How much of what you actually see on “Jon and Kate plus 8″ do you think is the sum total of all that goes on in that household/marriage? Do you not think that perhaps the shows producers edit it in such a way to make for better tv? Sure the Gosselin’s could voice objections but am thinking they signed an agreement/waiver as is standard and had to know they were at the mercy of the editing and eventual public scrutiny. Kate has a strong personality that is evident even in spite of clever editing, so what. Do you not think Jon didn’t know she had a strong personality when he married and decided to have children with her?
Sure they receive gifts of many description and of course are paid for the each episode but being the type of parents Kate and Jon seem to be, I’ll bet they have put money in trust for all of their children’s education. I think their children are well provided for.
My only concern is in light of the recent negative media attention directed at their parents, how, if it is even possible, to shield the children from the impact.
Kate hasn’t just sat around waiting for the money to roll in, she has been active in turning her job as a Mother of multiples into a career as an author.
I’ve only recently started watching as a result of a back injury so have had over a weekend and then some of back to back episodes.
I will say I didn’t like the way Kate was portrayed in her interactions with Jon but who is really to know how things are once the cameras stop rolling. I wouldn’t even venture a guess. I hope whatever difficulties they are experiencing they get counseling and can work it out or at least get past it and remain friendly for the future happiness of their children. Children learn what they live.
Is Kate not allowed to offer an opinion of another Mother of multiples situation without being criticized? I don’t see why not. She was asked a question, she answered. If we are allowed to express our opinion why shouldn’t she be allowed that same freedom of speech.

The bottom line is kate got jipped in this deal jon is at fault there is no reason to cheat and now he has comitted adultary and only GOD can judge him.I beleave naudia on the other hand watched jon and kate and thought I will do the samething and be famouse well it did not work out did it I wander in her country what they would have done to her? So now she is trash talking Kate when she can’t even manage to go shopping with her kids and only fed them on camera,Tell me who do you think wanted kids and who wanted to become famouse for having kids.I dont judge what they did just what they are doing now and no matter what killing a child is a sin do you know 98%of women who have had abortions regret it and for good reason

Get real!!! Do you really think that Kate’s house is as clean as it looks on TV, with 8 kids running around? Imagine the laundry? Dishes? I also think that the fame went to Kate’s head. She treats Jon like crap. And as far as the Octomom-She is nuts! How can she think that she can do this on her own? Maybe the Dr or the father of these babies should step up to the plate and help support them, it shouldn’t be the taxpayers job. She has had a lot of help but what will happen if she does it again? There needs to be a limit of children you can have for the State to help you.

I think that they should just give up the show for a little bite and get theit life back in order people can say things about both but we dont know what is going on behind closed doors

Leave her alone!! You other people are the first to cast stones, when all reality you haven’t a clue what goes on behind the closed doors. And she’s not the one who cheated…

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