Deepak Chopra & Intent

Leave the Sinking Ship: An Open Invitation to the Wall Street Journal to Get on Board for Integrative Health Reform

Wednesday December 31, 2008

Categories: Health
Deepak Chopra, MD Andrew Weil, MD and Rustum Roy, PhD On December 26, 2008, the Wall Street Journal published "The Touch that Doesn't Heal," an article by Steve Salerno. Without discernible professional credentials in health reportage, the writer opened his...
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Steve Salerno
December 31, 2008 5:36 PM
http://www.shamblog.com

I am the author of the Journal piece in question. A few points.

1. If by "discernible professional credentials in health reportage" you mean an MD, you are correct; I don't have one. I have, however, been writing about health and medicine, and the business component of same, for almost 25 years. As just one example (inasmuch as you mention "opening salvos"), my Journal piece of Jan. 18, 1994, "The High Price of Managed Care," was an opening salvo in the fight for HMO reform, widely quoted in Congress. Also, I find it interesting that a wing of the health-care industry that has always fought for respect, arguing that "credentials aren't all they're cracked up to be," is now taking a holier-than-thou attitude with me: I'm not a member of the "club," thus my ideas must be flawed. But there's one key difference between your struggle for credibility with the AMA and my struggle for credibility with you: My ideas are rooted in fact.
2. I'm "From the right"? Though I admit I've done my share of writing for the Journal, you folks should've done your due diligence: Even a cursory examination of my blog (which is mentioned at the end of the piece) would've told you that I'm an avid Obama supporter. I just don't like to see money wasted.
3. I agree that conventional medicine has not had all the answers, and has too often resulted in waste and unnecessary side effects. Does that mean that we should embrace alternatives that are based on...nothing at all? The scientific method puts the burden of proof on the person making the claim. Where is your proof? And please don't insult my intelligence by quoting ancient texts on ayurveda. Where is your scientific proof?
4. At the very least, you have to admit that there are an awful lots of outright quacks seeking refuge under the CAM umbrella. I would think the legitimate proponents of "integrative medicine" would be the people most eager to root out the charlatans. But that's not what happens. Typically everyone circles the wagons—just as you do here.

I could go on and on, but I think that's quite enough for now. I urge you to read the piece about my article posted on James Randi's site today; I think you'll find a slightly different take from the one you present here.

Carl Bartecchi, M.D.
January 1, 2009 12:55 PM

Steve Salerno is not an M.D., but from his writings, we know that he understands the tenets of science and the value of evidence based medicine. Dr. Chopra is an M.D., but from his writings we get the feeling that he has no clue. By paying lip service to science and dissing evidence based medicine, he can feel comfortable in his preachings about the Quantum theory and Quantum Healing (for which he was awarded an Ig Nobel Prize), his thoughts on aging and the value of Ayurvedic medicine. Chopra forgets that you need not be an M.D. to understand "alternative medicine". Professor Richard Dawkins from Oxford
University has probably given us the best definition of alternative medicine - that set of practices which cannot be tested, refuse to be tested, or consistently fails tests. It is hard to believe that anyone could have any confidence in alternative medicine after reading the recently published books, Snake Oil Science and Trick or Treatment, both written by scholars very familiar with the field of alternative medicine.

Mark Costello, L.Ac.
January 4, 2009 2:39 PM

Both Mr. Salerno and Dr. Bartecchi miss the point of the Dr. Chopra's response:
"Evidence-based" medicine has been extremely problematic due to profit motive. The scientifically produced data that leads to drugs being certified is manipulated to create better-than-real outcomes to salvage a corporation's R&D investment in dangerous drugs.
Anyone who works with the public, especially older Americans, understands that the current model is flawed for many reasons, and people are suffering from their care, and it is extremely fiscally wasteful.
No one can say that the problem is completely rooted in the manupulated data from drug research, but for the mainstream medical community to continue to rely on "evidence-based" as the backbone of this "superior" medicine is an ironic joke at best.

Your Name
January 11, 2009 10:34 PM

I wish to comment on Mr. Salerno's reaction to Mr. Chopra's response to his article. Mr. Salerno you ask, "Where is your proof" in regard to the potency, validity and importance of alternative medicine. I am one of billions of people world wide who have benefited from alternative medicine when "Evidence-Based" medicine had failed me, as in the case of treating my seven year battle with endometriosis to no avail, encurring absurd medical costs, invasive surgery, trial medications which no one really knew the long term affects of, and continuing to live in pain regardless of science based medicines offerings. In dismay I turned to acupuncture and chinese herbs along with a strict macrobiotic diet it has been more than a decade since I stopped alternative treatment for endometriosis and have never had a recurrence. It is unforutnate that what really worked for me physiologically was the last thing I had access to, but the most life altering. The most life renewing. Mr. Salerno, I am not an anomaly. It is the patients of alternative practioners who are the proof and there are billions of us. Most of whom hail western medicine for its triumphs, but see it as only part of the worlds rich history, study and methodology of healing. In many ways neither western nor eatern medicine can function exclusive of the other.

Chris Vedeler L.Ac.
January 12, 2009 10:49 AM

As a licensed practitioner of Chinese medicine I am privileged to witness first hand the effectiveness of the medicine I practice. I often see patients after they have been run through the "scientific evidence based" medical system and they are no better or even worse off. I have treated RN's and MD's with conditions that Western medicine had little or nothing of value to offer who have had dramatic and lasting results with very little financial investment or chemical or surgical invasion of their bodies. To dismiss Acupuncture or Chinese medicine because it does not lend itself well to double blind placebo controlled experiments is like dismissing the whole scientific body of astronomy because such experiments are impossible there as well. As a clinician I am far less concerned with "how and why" and far more interested in THAT that I achieve results. Research scientists are always in position of some degree of disconnect with clinical reality.

Are there charlatans attempting to ride the CAM wave? Yes. Should we speak up against what does not achieve results? Yes. Is Western medicine bad. Clearly not. But to suggest that all CAM is flawed and worthless because some CAM is flawed and of little real clinical use is about the same as suggesting that because there is a clear profit motive and corruption in the drug and medical industries that all Western medicine is flawed.

Kevin Meddleton
January 12, 2009 12:14 PM

One can't help but see Salerno's article and subsequent commentary as a self serving effort to build his "Sham" brand. Implicit in his position is that American consumers are idiots who can't discern when they are being helped and when they are not. My experience is that patients demand results and they don't waste their money or their insurers money if they are not getting substantially better. Its irrational to think that the rapid growth of the CAM field is built on misguided patients who blindly waste their time and money on therapies that don't work. Yeesh!

Sarah LoBisco, ND
January 12, 2009 4:19 PM
http://nd@dr-lobisco.com

I want to thank Deepak Chopra, MD Andrew Weil, MD and Rustum Roy, PhD for this article. I choose a career as an Integrative Health Care Provider, trained in conventional and "alternative" methods, in order to help bridge this gap of misunderstanding that exists in healthcare today.

Instead of focusing on wellness promotion, our healthcare system is one based on disease control. In order to remedy this, we don't need to necessarily attack the tools used in this paradigm (ie. drugs, herbs, therapies) but rather in the conventionally held beliefs of health itself.

In order to help the most people on this planet, healthcare has to re-focus on the patient, not on big industry. Also, for practitioners, it can not be an us vs. them philosophy. We must unite for the good of the patient. One patient at a time, if the focus and intention is on wellness, we will be able to heal the system.

I am glad that this article was written. The public must see the whole truth in order to make empowered decisions based on true science which is an ART of answering questions. If we can't explain why something works, it doesn't negate the pure fact that it does.

We have two options to implement for natural healing modalities: 1.keep asking more questions in order to figure out why they work, and the use the therapy 2. just accept it works, though we don't know why and use it to save lives.

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