Daily Prayers:
- A. Book of Common Prayer
- A. Book of Common Prayer 2
- A. Divine Hours
- A. Evening Prayer (Anglican)
- A. Morning Prayer (Anglican)
- Celtic Prayer
- Creeds of Christendom
- Eastern Orthodox Prayers
- Lectionary
- Liturgy of the Hours
- Missio Dei
Emerging Movement:
- Andrew Jones
- Andrew Perriman
- Anthony Stiff
- Art Boulet
- Bob Robinson
- Br. Maynard
- Dan Kimball
- David Fitch
- Dogwood Abbey
- Ecclesia Network
- Emerging Women
- Eugene Cho
- Henrik Holmgaard
- Jamie Arpin-Ricci
- Jazz Theologian
- John Frye
- John Lagrou
- Jonny Baker
- JR Briggs
- Leonard Hjamarlson
- LeRon Shults
- Lukas McKnight
- Peggy Brown
- Sivin Kit
- Stephen Shields
- Steve McCoy
- Steve Taylor
- Tamara Buchan
- The Practicing Church
- Tim Miekley
- Todd Hiestand
- Tom Smith (RSA)
- Tony Jones
Other sites I frequent:
- Allan Bevere
- Andy Rowell
- Attie Nel
- Barna
- Brad Boydston
- Chris Ridgeway
- CC Blogs
- Don Johnson
- Ed Gilbreath
- Erika Haub (Carney)
- Faith Blogging
- Falsani
- Fr. Rob
- Hummers
- iMonk
- James McGrath
- Jim Martin
- John Stackhouse
- JR Woodward
- Karen Spears Zacharias
- Laura Barringer
- LaVonne Neff
- LeaderFOCUS
- LL Barkat
- Luke/Annika
- Mark Galli
- Mark Roberts
- Michael Kruse
- Nexus
- Owen Youngman
- Ted Gossard
- Tom Wright
Recommended Online Readings:
Scholarly Books I’ve written:
- Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels
- Hist Jesus Anthology
- Interpreting the Synoptic Gospels
- Introducing NT Interpretation
- Jesus and His Death
- Jesus in Memory (ed.)
- New Vision for Israel
- Synoptics: Biblio
- The Face of New Testament Studies
- Who Do They Say I Am?
Scholarship Online:
- Apollos
- Books & Culture
- ChristianityToday
- CS Lewis
- EAC
- Early Xian Writings
- Euaggelion
- Gospels
- Jesus and His Death Blog
- Karl Barth Online
- Mark Goodacre’s Weblog
- Online Journals Access
- Online Pseudepigraph
- Pete Enns
- Prime Time Jesus
- Theopedia
- ThinkTank
Stuff online:
- 5 Streams
- Big Muddy
- Catalyst Scripture
- Catching the Wave
- DaVinci Code
- Forgiveness
- Future or Fad?
- Gospel of Judas
- High Calling
- Interview on Emerging
- Interview with LL Barkat
- IVCF Eikons
- IVCF Gospel
- John Bunyan
- Keys of the Kingdom
- Lake Emerging
- Mary in CT
- Missional in Seattle
- Missional Matrix
- Nativity Story
- Never Alone
- New Perspective
- Pepperdine Interview
- Professor as Scholar
- Recl Mind Mary 1
- Robust Gospel
- Social Justice
- Trojan Horse 2
- WiredParish Mary Interview
- Word/World NPP














posted October 31, 2005 at 12:28 pm
I have restrained from posting some embarrassing pictures of Scot McKnight dancing to Billie Jean, but I, too, posted on this sermon today on my blog. Good stuff, Brad!
posted October 31, 2005 at 1:55 pm
Hmm. Interestingly though, the text doesn’t say Moses raised his hands _in prayer_. It’s amazing to me how our own interpretive traditions creep into our texts
posted October 31, 2005 at 2:45 pm
Well, Justin, you’d be standing on that hill alone, for every ancient commentator took it to the praying of Moses — and that is why he created an altar. His prayers obtained what they sought for.
posted October 31, 2005 at 7:47 pm
Not true. Several commentators, but not every commentator. Some examples: have you ever looked at m.R”H 3.8; Mekhilta d’Rabbi Ishmael, Amalek 1; Ep. Bar 12.2-3; and arguably Jn 3.12-15 may also be thinking of something like the Mekhilta. (There are more)
In these cases, the reason Moses lifted his hands was so the Israelites would look to heaven and trust in God who would deliver them (of course, with a Christian twist in Ep.Bar.). No mention of prayer.
Anyhow, if you’re interested I could email you a little paper I put together on this passage a year ago for a presentation (only 3 pgs: sources plus annotations).
posted October 31, 2005 at 8:27 pm
Justin,
I looked again at Childs, and I think the tradition is clearly, even overwhelmingly, in favor of prayer — with exceptions. Sure, send me the paper at my North Park address. The concern to deny prayer is perhaps overdone, no? If the plea is to look to heaven, then they are beseeching God for protection.
What strikes me as the real alternative to prayer is the Mosaic mediatorship.
posted November 1, 2005 at 12:15 am
Just for clarification, I’m not denying one way or the other. I’m just pointing out that there is an ambiguity, and that different interpreters handled it in different ways. That Moses was praying is one way, that he was pointing to the heavens was another, and there are more.
Regarding Childs, I took a look at the commentary. On my reading it doesn’t seem to me that the data is overwhelmingly in favor of prayer. In his history of interp section Childs (incorrectly) associates it with Moses in the Mekhilta an m.R”H; and though he says Jews and Christians continued to see the passage as a prayer of Moses he lists multiple important alternatives to the view. That’s little data to go on, and not overwhelming IMO. Childs himself rejects the prayer interpretation, and says: “Both Jewish and Christian commentators have been quick to assume that Moses’ stance was that of prayer…However, there is no indication whatever in the text which would confirm this,” and goes on criticizing (p.314-15). His own view seems to be simply that Moses’ “hands are the instruments of mediating power, as is common throughout the ANE,” and that makes sense to me. One could add that he was raising his hands because he was praying, but again, my point (and his) is that it isn’t in the text.
I don’t know whether the concern to deny prayer is overdone–that’s at least not what I had in mind here. What I do know is that it’s just one way of interpreting a somewhat obscure text, though admittedly I would lean away from the “Moses lifted his hands in prayer” interpretation.
By the way, you might have a look at J. Kugel’s _Traditions of the Bible_, p.623-24. He has more interpretations on this text than I do.
By the way, don’t you think prayer is just another kind of Mosaic mediatorship? Or did I misunderstand you?
posted November 1, 2005 at 10:21 am
Scot, thanks for your consistent respect shown towards pastors and the church. Yes, I know about that “P Bic” slip. That was not the consistent you and you have modled good humility.
I am sure your referencing that pastor’s points was an encouragement to him, as when you use my article.
KSD