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Keys of the Kingdom 35

posted by xscot mcknight | 12:10am Friday February 22, 2008

Another kingdom text can be found at Matthew 16:24-28: 24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, ?If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done. 28 I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.?.
1. If the Messiah suffers, those who are connected to him will also suffer; discipleship takes its cues from Christology.
2. Losing with Jesus is winning with God.
3. The Son of Man will come into his Father’s glory (this does not say “return” to earth as many assume) with angels and hand out rewards to his followers. This text assumes Daniel 7.
4. The warning is this: some standing with Jesus — at that point — will not die before something huge happens.
5. That “huge” is seeing the “Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Again, “coming” does not mean “descend,” though it could; it could also mean “ascend.” Inasmuch as Son of Man is the principle figure, and since Dan 7 is the background, the motion of that Son of Man should be our first inclination. That would mean the Son of Man’s “coming” is an “ascent” into the presence of the Ancient of Days in order to receive glory and kingdoms. It’s in your Bible, go ahead and look up the motion of the Son of Man in Daniel 7.
6. Within 30 or so years the disciples will see this happen. What happened in that time? The most likely interpretation (for me) is 70 AD as an event that demonstrates the Messianic status of Jesus and which establishes Jesus as Lord. The sacking of Jerusalem vindicates Jesus and those attached to him.



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posted February 22, 2008 at 12:28 am


In this passage it seems likely or at least plausible that the reference is 70 AD – something within a lifetime – but not immediate. Crucifixion, resurrection, ascension, and Pentecost all occur in the short term, making the statement “some who are standing here” seem out of place in reference to these ? at least in English.
On the other hand, I really don’t see why the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem and the temple would be such a pivotal event in God’s history ? so pivotal that it would be preeminent over the events directly enacted by Jesus himself (crucifixion, resurrection, ascension) or the coming of the Spirit (Pentecost) as the manifestation of “the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Is there any chance that “some who are standing here” is an appropriate expression in Aramaic or Greek for a pivotal near term event? Failing that ? why is 70 AD the pivotal event for the Son of Man coming into God’s glory and into his kingdom?



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Richard

posted February 22, 2008 at 5:54 am


If we are bought with a price than we are no longer our own. Christ coming into His Kingdom without coming into us would be a cruel joke. To see Him as He is doesn’t mean we don’t see Him as He was since we know that He is changeless Love.
God’s restoration (purpose) means being at home in us (John 3:16)and you are right Scot that is Huge.
One of the huge experiences Stephen had was in Act 7:55 – But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Losing with Jesus is wining with God.



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Scott M

posted February 22, 2008 at 8:24 am


Another very common interpretation of the event foretold is the transfiguration. That’s bothered me because the transfiguration happens hard on the heels of this and makes the choice of phrasing seem very odd. On the other hand, the Messiah coming into his power and glory in Christian thought is associated with the crucifixion and resurrection. So it’s hard to see how the destruction of Jerusalem fits into that picture.



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Chris Cottingham

posted February 22, 2008 at 12:43 pm


I agree with Scott M – how does the destruction of Jerusalem fit in this picture – in particular as a vindication of Jesus? That sounds like the Temple was destroyed b/c Jesus was rejected and crucified – but that’s uncomfortable theology for me. And I thought Jesus’ comments about the destruction and rebuilding of the Temple referred to his crucifixion and resurrection? One thing’s clear to me – in my biblical studies classes, not much was made of the events of 70 AD. More and more, that’s looking like a glaring oversight.



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