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Thoughts on Cedarville and Claiborne

Wednesday February 20, 2008

Categories: Education

When I saw the news that Cedarville chose to uninvite Shane Claiborne, I was saddened. Not only because some watch bloggers were behind the event, but most especially because of educational theory and for its impact on students. So, I got to thinking of what I would do if our President had invited someone and some bloggers raised a protest and then the school chose to uninvite someone. Here are my ideas:

First, I begin with this: I don't know Shane personally; I like him and his stuff; some of our students love him and have grown from his stuff. I don't know the leaders at Cedarville, though I must admit I like the place because in college I had a good game of basketball against them in their gym. I know a professor or two. This isn't for me anything personal about Cedarville.

In one word: it's about education.

Colleges do not endorse everything anyone says when they invite someone to speak. I cannot comprehend why so many don't get this: invitations of speakers to schools or even churches do not mean blanket endorsement. Invitation does not mean endorsement. In fact, if we think about this a bit it becomes clear: no one agrees with anyone completely. So, let's spread the word that a school inviting someone does not mean the school will agree with everything that someone says. I know I didn't think this: "Wow, Cedarville invited Shane; Cedarville might be considering becoming a social gospel school. Nor did I think they were suddenly transforming into a new monastic community." I thought, "Good for Cedarville. Those students probably will like some of his ideas and not like others. They'll all learn. He'll challenge them to think about Christian involvement." I'm sure that this is what I would say to an administrator who would do such a thing at our school.

We must distinguish between what faculty at a Christian college are expected to believe and what speakers believe. Christian colleges have nearly always asked their professors to subscribe to a doctrinal statement. They also teach their students that kind of theology. I have no problem with that stance. But, applying those kinds of statements to guest speakers is unnecessary.

This was a great educational opportunity that did not happen. I believe the major issue here is education. We often invite to our school folks who take differing views. It's good for our students to hear other ideas. Then we have opportunities to debrief, explain, explore, and make our own decisions. I would say this:

By inviting someone who differs with us, maybe we could have an evening session or two after the lectures or talks or sermons. In those sessions we could do our best to explain what the person said, see where we both agreed and disagreed, and that way show what civil conversation is all about and show how to respond with those with whom we disagree. An uninvitation not only blocks the educational opportunity but sends a message loud and clear: the way to deal with those we disagree with is to keep them from talking.

Yes, invitations create ambivalence for our students. This Fall a student or two stormed out of our lectures by Randy Balmer; they had the right to do that. They complained to their teachers in class. That teacher listened and discussed the issues. We think Balmer's own viewpoint needed to be heard. Did we agree with everything? No. But his views got many of us to think again about the relationship of faith and the Presidency. Isn't that the point?

Another question: Where is the best place to model listening and disagreement? On our campus, with our students, with our colleagues.

I would also do this: I would ask such persons to reconsider their decision and think about un-uninviting and re-invite the person back. I am encouraged to read on this blog yesterday a comment that says Cedarville is inviting Shane to speak some time in the future. Good for them. Your students deserve it. I will be glad to hear a first-hand account about the event.

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John W Frye
February 20, 2008 3:52 PM
http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com

Ben (#34),
I apologize for being offensive in my comments. In the blog world it is hard to discern between honest passion and judgmental arrogance. I admit that I am suspicious of anyone who so cavalierly throws the word "heresy" around with respect to Christian brothers and sisters who happen to hold different views than the ones claiming to be "orthodox." That's all.

Lloyd
February 20, 2008 4:09 PM
http://www.myspace.com/lloydie77

"For instance, would we invite Dawkins or Hitchens to speak at our christian institution?…Probably not…but why not?"

I think I would invite them. I'm not intimidated by their ideas, nor would I think that they would convert the student body to Atheism. Their opinions are shared by many who are hostile to Christianity, or just down right have no interest in it either way. That worldview is of great interest to me so that I can engage in dialogue with those who don't believe, so that they might become a follower of Christ.

I remember when Bill Clinton was invited to Willow Creek, and the Evangelical community was upset. I didn't care for it, either, but now I've totally reversed my thinking. Talking to those with whom we do not agree, or with those who are engaging in sinful behavior is exactly what we should be doing. I agree with Scot that an invitation is not an endorsement, any more than Jesus eating with tax collectors and "sinners" was an endorsement of the lifestyle that those two groups were known for.

The difference here is that Shane is a Christian. Biblical reasons to separate ourselves from a brother or sister in Christ are divisiveness (Titus 3:10), immorality (1 Corinthians 5:1), preaching another Gospel (Galatians 1:9), or teaching false doctrine (1 Timothy 1:3). The last passage tells us to "command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer". How exactly would not letting Shane speak at all, not engaging him at all, accomplish this last goal, if, in fact, you think that is what he is doing? Has Shane exhibited any of these four items that I've listed?

If so, then the college has a leg to stand on.

If not, perhaps they should reconsider.

Matt Edwards
February 20, 2008 7:20 PM
http://awaitingredemption.blogspot.com

Lloyd (#45),
I am not sure the 1 Timothy passage directly applies to this situation. Assuming Pauline authorship of 1 Timothy, you have a command in that passage from an apostle to one of his emissaries to forbid heretics from teaching in a church founded by said apostle. Paul wasn't concerned so much that the heretics believed false doctrine, but that they were teaching that false doctrine in a church over which Paul had spiritual authority. Paul didn't say, "Don't associate with him," he said "Don't let him teach in my church."

So, when it comes to allowing "heretical" voices to speak at an evangelical university, are we comparing apples to apples? I don't think so. The university is not a church, it's a place of learning. Further, as an apostle, Paul had the authority to label the false teachers "heretics." Who has that authority today in the Protestant tradition? Can we still call a church council? Can a blogger pronounce someone a heretic?

Even if someone like Shane is a "heretic" (I am unfamiliar with is work and by no means want to label him as such), should we hide from his ideas, or converse with them? If we are to converse with them, isn't the university the most appropriate medium in which to do so? I think we should engage his thoughts as we would those from any other perspective.

TDMiekley
February 22, 2008 1:06 AM
http://beingekklesia.wordpress.com

Knowing Shane personally and hanging out with him at the Simple way, I really believe that Cedarville has lost an awesome opportunity to be the body of Christ and hear a man of God who has struggle with the Bible and his own faith. I find this to be ridiculous.

Thank you for sharing it, Scot.

This brings me to an interesting question, Scot. Has anyone ever done that to you - uninvited you based on your personal convictions? If so, would you mind sharing your experience with us? Thanks.

Carl Ruby
February 22, 2008 3:01 PM
http://www.cedarville.edu/carlrubyreflections

I've appreciated the discussion on this blog regarding the Shane Claiborne event and Cedarville University. Many of you have shared a vision for Christian Higher education that resonates with me. I particularly appreciate Scot’s comments. What I appreciate the most is that his comments seem to reflect a desire to sharpen one another within the body of Christ, rather than to attack, divide, and destroy. I have sensed the same spirit in my interactions with Shane. Having been directly involved with both inviting Shane and then making the very difficult choice to cancel the event, I can assure you that careful thought, prayer, and a couple of sleepless nights, went into both decisions. I pulled together some of my thoughts about these recent days for our student newspaper in an article titled "Some Random Reflections on Living as an Ordinary Radical." www.cedarville.edu/carlrubyreflections I've shared these thoughts with our University family and trust they may be helpful to you as well. If you have questions or would like to interact further, I am glad to do so.

Carl Ruby
Vice President for Student Life
Cedarville University

(937)766-7871

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