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Faith and the Prospect of Death

Tuesday May 26, 2009

Categories: Books, Problems for Faith
I hope the title to this post didn't scare you off because I want to address a serious topic: how we face death. But we can address this from a variety of angles -- like Christian hope or the medical,...
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angusj
May 26, 2009 7:33 AM

"And so it is with our lives: one damn thing after another -- a gutter replaced, a washing machine fixed -- rather than a story"

Sounds very much like Ecclesiastes to me.

Georges Boujakly
May 26, 2009 8:46 AM

Scot,
Thanks for including those who see our God as bunk in Jesus Creed community conversations. They too can teach us not to take for granted or as personal achievement the faith delivered to us.

Jim Marks
May 26, 2009 8:46 AM
http://jhimm.net/wabi_sabi

Ho hum. Yet another "atheist" who isn't really an atheist, but rather like us, has found enough fault with the Rational Enlightenment/Modernist packaging of Christianity to throw the whole thing out the window.

Barnes is absolutely right. If the G-d who exists really is the sort would turns life within creation into nothing but a pop-quiz for a course we have never taken, we ought neither worship nor show any deference to this G-d.

There is no failing on Barnes' part for concluding that this version of Christianity is completely bankrupt. The failing is on the part of the church for not understanding that if we continue to refuse to abandon this nonsense and rediscover the real Good News, we are, according to our own doctrines, condemning much of the world to Hell.

I just wish these kinds of "atheists" had the stones to admit they want to believe in, and in a sense do believe in, -a- god, they just refuse to believe in -our- G-d.

Dave Moore
May 26, 2009 9:47 AM
http://www.twocities.org

As a Christian, I have similar struggles. To use theological language, it does seem that the effects of sin are greater than the effects of grace. And yet...

What gives me traction are the many things in Scripture that have the "ring of truth" to them. Things like the realistic view of human nature, the triune nature of God which satisfies our need for unity and diversity, and the transcendence and immanence of God. Having studied world religions and various philosophies, these (and more) are unique to Christianity.

Thomas Merton said that one must be humble not to despair. With these kinds of struggles, we dare not miss that dimension of the struggle!

Diane
May 26, 2009 11:33 AM

JIm Marks,

Yes--well put.

Phil
May 26, 2009 6:27 PM

What an extremely sad POV...

I do agree with the Ecc. comment from #1. It's all pointless, that is if there is not God. Character is pointless. Integrity is pointless. Faith, hope & love...pointless & purposeless.

Ted M. Gossard
May 26, 2009 10:27 PM
http://communityofjesus.blogspot.com/

Deeply sad and troubling. But the man is right. Without God life is meaningless.

Don Bryant
May 27, 2009 4:48 AM
http://www.donbryant.wordpress.com

Great turn of words - ""God might prefer the honest doubter to the sycophantic chancer." Reminds me of Kierkegaard and his deep disturbance over the banality of the church, people hedging their bets. Thanks for the review. I will have to read this book.

RJS
May 27, 2009 3:57 PM

Scot,

excellent thought - His point about fiction, better yet the stories we so deeply love, need to be seen as the human articulation of the depth of reality. Bible as story, as mission. It is the total absence of purpose, of meaning in the secular materialist view that kept, and keeps, me coming back and thinking.

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