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Organizing a Library

posted by Scot McKnight | 1:48pm Tuesday May 5, 2009

Library.jpgFor more than 30 years I have bought books, entered them onto a master list of books in my library, filled out 3×5 cards (which I quit doing a few years back), read them and shelved them. But all of this has become electronic. Some are storing things in cyberspace.

Just today a friend of mine asked me about Library Thing. I had never heard of it that I could recall. Should I know about it?

What do folks think of Library Thing and what are good resources out there for organizing a library?



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Daryl

posted May 5, 2009 at 2:06 pm


Library Thing (LT) is pretty neat. I used to have a long Excel file in which I kept my master list; I got a subscription with LT because it sounded like a convenient way to backup my collection (for insurance purposes) and to make it accessible to others (my family typically buys books for me for birthday/Christmas). The interface isn’t lightning-fast, but it is adequate.



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Randy

posted May 5, 2009 at 2:21 pm


I don’t know about Library Thing, but my wife and I are beginning to pack up my library for a move from Iowa back to Michigan. Last night we were boxing my history books from my graduate school days, which ended six years ago. Karen put them in the box while I entered them into a WORD file to attach a inventory to each box.
While doing this from several feet away, she became amazed as she realized that I was entering authors as well as titles as she read off the titles to me. Finally, she just stopped and said, “You are really sick, knowing these so well.”
Maybe she is right.
Peace,
Randy



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Travis Mamone

posted May 5, 2009 at 2:22 pm


Library Thing is cool, but personally I prefer Good Reads.



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Norton

posted May 5, 2009 at 2:38 pm


Hey Scot,
LT is great. I’ve had an account for a couple of years. It’s easy to add books and keep track of your library. And you can collaborate with others who have similar interests if you want. Check it out at: http://www.librarything.com/profile/norton928
Norton



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Carl

posted May 5, 2009 at 2:51 pm


I am beginning to experiment (using trial, not purchased yet) with Book Collector found at http://www.collectorz.com/ It’s kind of nice, you simply enter an ISBN and if you are connected to the internet, it retrieves book information from the web, author, publisher, etc. I have only done it manually with the trial version, it’s quick and easy. It also has the ability to use a barcode scanner to make it even faster. From my brief time using it, it seems like a good tool. It also includes ability to export, etc, with the PRO edition so you can keep your book list on your iPod, Palm, etc. Sorry, starting to sound like a salesman. Had not seen LT – will have to compare the pros/cons.



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tripp fuller

posted May 5, 2009 at 2:59 pm


I use Library Thing and love Library Thing. If it just allowed a check out option so I could mark who has borrowed books it would be the coolest thing ever.



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Brandon W

posted May 5, 2009 at 3:13 pm


I’ve been using LibraryThing for several years now and it has been a very good application for my library needs. There are a couple of cons, but for the most part, I highly recommend the site. Sometimes the site is a little slow. Also, I catalog my books using LOC and it doesn’t sort LOC perfectly yet.



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howie

posted May 5, 2009 at 3:20 pm


if you have a mac, use delicious library. It uses a webcam to scan the UPC code, downloads the info from amazon, and presto – all the bibliographic info and an abstract are added. You can demo it for free before purchasing. it’s awesome. i haven’t used the other ones, but delicious library is great. you can also catalog music, dvds, tools, etc. really handy.



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ChrisB

posted May 5, 2009 at 3:32 pm


I use Library Thing, and it’s great. I haven’t tried any of the others.
LT lets you import a previously existing list of books (e.g., spreadsheet), add books via a $15 barcode scanner (saved me sooo much time), and then export a new list (which you can keep on your pda or smartphone).
The best advantage of an electronic system over cards — you enter the information into the system once and then you can use as many tags as you want to sort the info instead of making multiple cards for multiple drawers.
Above I listed my library, for the curious.



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Robert

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:02 pm


I use Book Collector. It is the best one out there for the PC. The Pro version, so that you can export your list. My only concern now is with their new version, all the files go through their servers instead of hitting Amazon. It always makes me nervous when more control is desired.



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Barry

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:08 pm


I tried Library Thing for a while and then switched to http://www.gurulib.com. It’s been a while so I’m not sure why I switched but it must have been a good reason. Either way, I think Gurulib works very well and includes options for other media.



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Derek Leman

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:24 pm


While I am sure my library cannot compare to that of the inimitable (and slightly older) Professor McKnight, I have a different system.
I walk over to the shelves, located as they are in three different places, and spend 20 minutes searching for relevant books. I have a 60% success rate sometime improved when I suddenly remember a week later which pile an important book is hidden in.
It’s a whole lot easier than filing books on a computer database and it only takes 20 minutes average each time I need to locate something.
Derek Leman



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JR Woodward

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:31 pm


I also use delicious library and found it really helpful. I just scan the books in and can put them on shelves. It is one worth checking out.



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Kyle Nolan

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:34 pm


I use Shelfari. For some reason I had some trouble finding some books with LibraryThing, but shelfari seems pretty good and has good a widget that I keep on my blog. It organizes which books I’ve read and haven’t read, my wish list and which ones I own.



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Mark Mathewson

posted May 5, 2009 at 4:58 pm


I use BookCAT. It costs about $40 (it has been worth the price for me). Not only an inventory, but you can also track borrowers, the dates you have read the book, and more. The user can simply enter a book’s isbn # and the program downloads (most) all the data. I’ve been happy with it so far. You can check out the details and download a free trial version at the link below.
http://www.fnprg.com/bookcat/info.html?source=googlead&gclid=CKWOktKGppoCFR0SagodVzy79w



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Lorna

posted May 5, 2009 at 5:06 pm


I use LibraryThing, and also gave a lifetime membership to a friend as a gift. (more than 200 books requires membership, but it is cheap) We spent an afternoon together entering his (almost) 1000 books. More than one person can be logged on to your account at the same time so you can both be entering items. You can also enter by isbn, by hand or w/ scanner. It first searches Amazon, but if not found there (think older books) you can search WorldCat, or you can enter info manually. There is a notes section that is handy for remembering where an item is shelved, (study, bedroom, etc.) or for saying this title was loaned to so and so on this date. Over all a good product.



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Richie Heimbrock

posted May 5, 2009 at 6:40 pm


I have been using Library Thing for a few years now and have found it to be extremely useful.
The one thing I would recommend is making good use of the tag system.
You can use as many tags as you want and being able to search with them is very helpful.
Also with a large library scanning them in is going to be much faster than keying them.



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Daniel

posted May 5, 2009 at 6:44 pm


If you have a Mac, Bookpedia is great!



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a librarian

posted May 5, 2009 at 6:50 pm


Library Thing is the best of the best – seriously! I haven’t had time to enter my entire library but I completely recommend it to anyone who asks.
I got to hear its founder speak at a library conference last year – and he’s on top of everything – but yet still so accessible for non librarians (and well, non geeky academics – because Tim is not a professional librarian – but he certainly fits in well with us =)
(Warning – I was one of the librarians that just HAD to get our pictures taken with him because we’re geeky Tim Spaulding groupies like that – but that alone should let you know that LibraryThing works, because we librarians would NOT become huge fans of someone who created something that didn’t actually work now would we? we tend to be fairly practical people for all that we love technology)
They’re constantly making Library Thing better in regards to what you can do with it – and seriously – I’ve looked at most of the others and they just can’t compare…
(I do like Goodreads for my “currently reading” list – but only because LibraryThing is set up to be more of your catalog than your current reading list, and is not really set up to keep track of books you’ve read that you don’t actually own. But that is really the only thing I don’t like about it – and many people have tagged things in ways their tags weren’t intended to get around that problem – so not everyone agrees with me on that)



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Allan P

posted May 5, 2009 at 7:35 pm


I use Delicious 2 (for Mac). It allows scanning of barcodes (a common enough feature on books published after… oh… 1980?) and all info is immediately available, including info particular to your edition, with an estimation of value, room for notes, and tracking for loans. I recommend it.



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Tim in Thailand

posted May 5, 2009 at 7:42 pm


I am using Zotero to keep records for my MA thesis. It is really easy to use and keeps good records, plus I can enter my own notes and it will keep an annotated bibliography. I visit the book’s page on amazon and with the click of a button I’ve got all the relevant bibliographic info.



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Kevin Higgins

posted May 5, 2009 at 8:32 pm


I signed up with LibraryThing a couple of years ago and entered my library there, but I’ve not been back since. Perhaps if I had a larger library or was more disciplined in adding tags as I read a book it would be more helpful to me, but as it is I do not use it.



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Dan Masshardt

posted May 5, 2009 at 9:08 pm


I’ve been using LibraryThing for about a year. They seem to be committed to making improvements. I like that I can get at it wherever I’m at – if I see a book I want and forget whether I own it :-) . Also, I use tags to tell me where a book is physically – office, home, basement.
I have a professional quality barcode scanner I’d be happy to loan you if you’ll mail it back when you’re done. Please do not enter hundreds of books by hand! The scanner makes it a snap.



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reJoyce

posted May 5, 2009 at 9:37 pm


I’ve been using Delicious Library for quite a while. You can use your webcam to scan the bar codes as mentioned already or buy a barcode reader. (I’ve got a bar code reader and it works very well.) I also keep track of books on Goodreads.



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reJoyce

posted May 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm


Oh, I meant to ask:
is that picture Trinity College’s Library?



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Jim Martin

posted May 5, 2009 at 11:12 pm


I have been using Library Thing for a couple of years. Such an easy way to catalog and organize books. This has been very useful to me.



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Chris Ridgeway

posted May 5, 2009 at 11:37 pm


Been using it for several years. Love it. They keep adding features. I enter things by ISBN, but you can get a bar code scanner. I like the fact that other people can browse my library, and that I can tag books and drop them into widgets like the one I use on my blog for “currently reading.”



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John L.

posted May 6, 2009 at 1:08 am


I have never used it, but my university recently started using it to catalog about 5,000+ books we have collected for starting a Theological Library in Rwanda.
Things were going VERY slowly before we found LT, but now we’ve cataloged most of the books. Giving the program a single ISBN gives us all the information we need, and the Library will be ready to go pretty quickly once it hits the ground. Library Thing was limited to 5,000 total with the license we received, but to be officially recognized as a Library we need 10,000 books, so they upped our license for free.



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Andrew Butler

posted May 6, 2009 at 2:33 am


Library Thing is good. But I am surprised that no one has mentioned “Google books”. I use it quite a bit, and you can add books if you click on the “Add to my shared library” tag. (You do not have to share your library with others if you do not want to.) It is very simple to use.



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Baggas

posted May 6, 2009 at 2:38 am


Library Thing is fantastic. I’ve been using it for a couple of years now after flirting with a couple of other book services.
Advantages of LT :
- it’s completely online/browser based and thus available to you anywhere. no need to install any software
- powerful categorisation/cataloguing/tagging
- strong social networking/discussion emphasis if you’re into that
- continually being improved/upgraded
- very cheap – $25 for life membership is hard to beat
Possibly my favourite website ever! :)
Paul
http://www.librarything.com/profile/baggas



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art

posted May 6, 2009 at 8:24 am


I second (or third, or fourth!) those who recommended Delicious Library. I mentioned it to you on Twitter, but thought I would add my vote here as well.
Not only can you scan books to enter them via the iSight camera already on Macs, but their system of books that have been borrowed is excellent. You can enter the contact info (or import it from your Address Book) for someone who borrows a book and then set a date when you would like the book back. Delicious Library will automatically send you and the person who borrowed the book an email on the date set. You can also organize your library by books borrowed, which is nice because I usually forget who borrowed what book from me, which can get annoying.
I’ve entered some of my books into Library Thing, but I use Delicious Library regularly and absolutely love it. A bit steep ($40), but it’s worth it and includes free updates.



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snc

posted May 6, 2009 at 10:48 am


Delicious works great for me including when I moved. I simply created a bookshelf for each bin that contained my books. This allowed me to go to the right bin to find the right book right away.
Right-o,
snc



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Bob Smallman

posted May 6, 2009 at 11:20 am


Years ago, I put together a simple FileMaker database to track my book purchases — primarily for insurance purposes, in case our church ever had a fire.
I know, when I say the following, that I’ll probably get kicked off JesusCreed for heresy, but I have actually begun to pare back my library. Some years ago when we were going through a building program, I had to move my office into what was, essentially, a glorified closet. And so I had to pack away about 95% of my books (literally). I had to figure out what books I absolutely needed for the next year — and pack the rest away.
I thought it would be one of the most painful experiences of my life; but, in fact, it became one of the most educational. I suddenly realized — as I was sorting through my library — that I had accumulated a whole lot of junk. So I resolved to give away about half of my books to anyone who would take them — and I did. Then, in my new office which was much more spacious than my old one, I had the contractor build in fewer shelves than I’d had before, and I resolved that as I bought a new book I would give away/sell/throw away whatever I needed to make space! It has worked! (BTW, this is also a great strategy for filing cabinets. When they fill up, throw something out to make room for something new.)
During that year, there was only one time when I really wanted a book I had packed away (I was trying to chase down a footnote in Kittel). And since then I have only rarely looked for a book that I came to realize I had given away. The books that I keep are the ones of substance. Others I read and give away. Just yesterday, I cleaned out several old commentaries that looked great on my shelves, but I know I’ll never use them. (These decisions, I must point out are hard on the ego — I certainly always took pride in the number of books I’d accumulated — whether I actually used them or not!)
My other way of getting rid of books is to loan them out and then forget who borrowed them! Some years ago, one of our families was moving out of town and donated some old books to our church library. There in their pile of donated books (you guessed it!) were two books I’d been looking for and couldn’t remember who’d borrowed them!
Footnote: Scot’s new book on Fasting is a keeper! (Of course, it doesn’t take up much space! :)



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Jon

posted May 6, 2009 at 11:28 am


Delicious LIbrary is the way to go on a mac. Deliciousmonster is notorious for having elegant interfaces, easy usability, and power to boot.



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Kevin Scull

posted May 7, 2009 at 2:22 am


I am surprised so many people haven’t found their way to librarything.com yet. I second all those who have discussed its value. This post inspired me to post a plug for the website on my blog. However, I must admit after reading these comments about Delicious Library I am intrigued.



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Danny Zacharias

posted May 7, 2009 at 6:41 am


Scott, it depends on what you are looking for. Delicious Library is great, and if you are simply looking for an electronic catalogue of your books, then it is probably the best choice.
The advantage of LibraryThing is that it is online (though you’d probably have to pay the $25 lifetime fee for your amount of books) AND it is connected to a program called Ottobib, which makes a proper MLA, APA, or Turabian bibliographic citation of any of your books. (see my discussion on LibraryThing and a few others on the SBL forum (http://www.sbl-site.org/publications/article.aspx?ArticleId=674)
However, if you are looking to revamp your research and writing somewhat, then Delicious Library isn’t the right choice. What you want instead is a bibliographic manager. You can read my SBL forum article on Bookends (http://www.sbl-site.org/publications/article.aspx?articleId=468) for an idea on what a bibliographic manager can do for you. Basically, it not only catalogues your books AND essays AND journal articles (not just books), but it will write your footnotes and bibliography for you as well.
On the Mac there are two excellent options, Sente and Bookends. There is also Zotero, which is not as good as the other 2 but is free and does its job well.



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Garet

posted May 7, 2009 at 12:15 pm


I’ve never shared a library, never got around to it I guess.
My entire library is recorded in Endnote and available on my computer. I love Endnote. Plus as I do research and writing I have my resources at my fingertips.
This is a very helpful post. I’m looking into some of the above resources.
Thanks!



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Kelly Brown

posted June 12, 2009 at 1:32 pm


The best information i have found exactly here. Keep going Thank you



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