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Live Blogging at Rob Bell's Preaching Conference 2

Monday July 6, 2009

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Jeremy Bouma is live blogging this preaching conference with Pete Rollins and Shane Hipps ...


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RJS
July 6, 2009 1:39 PM

Rick,

In my comment #2 I should have phrased the response a bit differently. Why do I go to church? - many reasons, but the sermon isn't one of them for the reasons I gave in #4.

However, the preaching and teaching is often quite good for others and this may be an important part of the reason for many people to go to church.

Still, I would like to see a move away from sermon as performance. I would like to see a move to a more interactive form for most teaching.

Karl
July 6, 2009 2:47 PM

RJS, is one reason you hear very little new in a sermon these days precisely the fact that you have heard so many sermons over a lifetime of churchgoing? Or are you saying that even when you were younger you didn't learn from sermons?

I have been in church all of my 38 years, went to Christian school and college and am an avid reader and "armchair theologian." So I resonate with feeling like it's rare that a sermon offers something new, and the desire for dialogue. But I also have to acknowledge that a decent chunk (perhaps a minority but a substantial minority) of what I think I have learned, has been learned via some of the good pastoral teaching that I sat under as a youth and young adult.

RJS
July 6, 2009 3:41 PM

Karl,

I think that you are right that a decent chunk is from past sermons, which is why I backtracked a bit in #9. It is also why I don't really fault the sermon itself - or the preacher.

Travis Greene
July 6, 2009 4:51 PM

RJS & Karl,

Yeah, but a teacher is supposed to bring out treasures old and new (Matthew 13:52). I'm 25 and am very rarely surprised or challenged by a sermon. In fact, I feel like I can fairly accurately predict where most of them are going within a minute or two. I find that doesn't happen when:

1. Other people (besides the pastor) get to talk. Including people I might disagree with.
2. We're addressing texts other than the usual suspects.
3. The level of discourse is slightly above my comfort level. I'd rather be confused than bored.

John L
July 6, 2009 9:29 PM

I wonder if the "Sunday sermon" is becoming obsolete? With the emergence of high quality on-line preaching / teaching / theology discourse, of what value is physically proximate information transfer? I carry the world's finest sermons with me in my pocket while I workout at the gym or on my morning walk. Why would I spend my time sitting in an audience every Sunday to hear a comparatively mediocre religious talk? In the last few weeks, I have absorbed well over ten hours of great spiritual monologues and conversations with people like Tozer, Yancey, and Fr. Rohr.

This is an exciting time of transition for the church. Instead of "attending" stage-centric activities, we can use our gathering time to really be present with each other. Pastors can be released to really pastor. Gifted teachers (who may or may not have pastoral gifts) can teach in smaller groups where true interactivity can take place.

We all have something to contribute, together.

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