When will I learn to be sure and copy before I post? I lose comments quite often on this site.
It will be fun to see you and Allan Bevere this week at Ashland Seminary. I look forward to learning more on the gospel, as well.
The leaves are at their peak right now in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I’ve never seen such brilliance and variety. Maybe it’s in part me, but I’ve heard that the rain and weather has contributed to this. I hope to get some pics today.

Derek has a summary on Noah as well – also worth a careful read:
http://derek4messiah.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/noah-in-context-meaning-and-purpose/

Well = no #10? and … There are other perspectives on the Vikings – enough games, easily enough and soon enough… let the fun continue.

Ted,
The “comment is not lost” feature isn’t working for me, and the text in the captcha is often hard to decipher. I type the wrong text about 10% of the time. All to say – I too have lost comments and now try to remember to copy before hitting submit.
I am envious of your chance to be at Ashland this week – someday I may actually get the chance to meet and hear Scot.

RJS, too many “newsy” items higher up … and I forgot to delete the #10. And I too will meet you someday.
Good advice for Ted. I’ve lost comments, too.
I copy before I try to decipher the captcha text.
But one thing is a huge relief to me: our spam attempts have gone from sometimes hundreds down to one or two.

And to really load up the comment thread … the articles on “Major study on shifts for women in culture and economy” and “Rape in Congo” are both thought provoking – and related to the points I have made or tried to make on the “Are Women Human?” posts.
Things have changed dramatically in this country and in Europe as well. Dorothy Sayers would be astonished – and pleased. We are well on the way to a culture where men and women are both allowed to be human. (If we could move past some of the exploitation of sexuality in the media we’d be doing even better.) I am 50 – so not young, in junior high, high school, and college when many changes were happening – things are definitely changing for the better, at least in academia – and I think also in politics and business.
Now we get to the “Rape in the Congo” – I think that it would do well for men, when thinking about differences in conduct between genders, to consider what it would be like to live in a position of vulnerability of the kind discussed here. The solution isn’t a paternalistic protectionism and a Islamic style seclusion, but a revolution that views men and women as equally human and acts accordingly. This is one of the most powerful messages of the gospel – and why I found Sayers’ reflections on Jesus in my first post so interesting.
Will our church follow? Note – I am not asking if it will lead, because the answer there is already in … it will not and that is a crying shame. What ever we may say about women in ministry – the CBMW and the people who find this an important issue for our church are reaping destruction, division, and irrelevance.

Great picture of fall in Chicago — if only we’d get a break from the rain to enjoy it.

Scot,
I know that the captcha is necessary – so I am not really complaining. The fault lies with the spammers – not you or beliefnet. Although I do wish that beliefnet could get some of the bugs worked out of the system.
Ah well – neither technology nor people are perfect.

Let’s go Yankees!

dopderbeck, I link to your brother’s awesome picture up at the top and then you say that sort of thing … it’s not what I had in mind with praying for the Angels.

Would love the notes to the lectures. Will they be available anywhere? Sounds very interesting.

Scot,
I look forward to seeing you on Monday and meeting Ted as well.

“But baseball remains so much superior of a sport.”
Funny. But seriously…..

I liked reading the Bono article. I don’t necessarily agree that Americans just want to be loved. Maybe the people he hangs around with do. But the people that I brush shoulders with on a daily basis don’t really care what people think.

“The Minnesota Vikings are winning too many games too soon too easily. It concerns me. The Bears are not scoring when they are in the Red Zone. That concerns me. But baseball remains so much superior of a sport.”
Doesn’t concern me! Go Vikings!

I actually agree that holiness is an issue that should be made more attention to by emergents, of which I am one. However, the case in point that Karen gives is not fair. This guy she had the conversation with was not so much emergent as he was “immaturant”. He would find another label to cling to if not this one. And, ironically, Donald Millers, who’s references often, does NOT consider himself emergent. So we’re mixing categories left, right, and center here.
Secondly, what I didn’t hear Karen address was any of the legalism young people have encountered in the church that led them to licentiousness. Neither “L” perspective is good. We want something in between. And yes, we want holiness. But setting up straw men (even if they are real, f-bomb dropping, smoking, drinking) individuals, is not a fair way to approach the issue.
The piece sounded more like a vent than a thoughtful desire to move young people towards the pursuit of holiness.

Sorry for the typos in my above commend. Note to self: always edit before publishing, even if is just a comment.
Secondly, let’s get real about heresy. Scot, I think you should delete any reference from people, such as doperback, who dare to cheer on the Yankees.
Are there no lines? Is this moral relativism run rampant? Are we okay with that?

Darren, we met, chatted, went back and forth, some folks had to leave the room — others were dismayed … but in the end we said, “he’s our brother.” So, we left him at the table, but I’m reasonably assured he’ll be more circumspect in the future.
Haha

Darren,
Given that Scot can fail to appreciate both the Vikings (I recall the Purple People Eaters (See here)… and have remained true ever since) and the American League (the way baseball was meant to be played) – we cannot really expect him to hold the line against heretics. We will have to live with the Yankee fans.