Daily Prayers:
- A. Book of Common Prayer
- A. Book of Common Prayer 2
- A. Divine Hours
- A. Evening Prayer (Anglican)
- A. Morning Prayer (Anglican)
- Celtic Prayer
- Creeds of Christendom
- Eastern Orthodox Prayers
- Lectionary
- Liturgy of the Hours
- Missio Dei
Emerging Movement:
- Andrew Jones
- Andrew Perriman
- Anthony Stiff
- Art Boulet
- Bob Robinson
- Br. Maynard
- Dan Kimball
- David Fitch
- Dogwood Abbey
- Ecclesia Network
- Emerging Women
- Eugene Cho
- Henrik Holmgaard
- Jamie Arpin-Ricci
- Jazz Theologian
- John Frye
- John Lagrou
- Jonny Baker
- JR Briggs
- Leonard Hjamarlson
- LeRon Shults
- Lukas McKnight
- Peggy Brown
- Sivin Kit
- Stephen Shields
- Steve McCoy
- Steve Taylor
- Tamara Buchan
- The Practicing Church
- Tim Miekley
- Todd Hiestand
- Tom Smith (RSA)
- Tony Jones
Other sites I frequent:
- Allan Bevere
- Andy Rowell
- Attie Nel
- Barna
- Brad Boydston
- Chris Ridgeway
- CC Blogs
- Don Johnson
- Ed Gilbreath
- Erika Haub (Carney)
- Faith Blogging
- Falsani
- Fr. Rob
- Hummers
- iMonk
- James McGrath
- Jim Martin
- John Stackhouse
- JR Woodward
- Karen Spears Zacharias
- Laura Barringer
- LaVonne Neff
- LeaderFOCUS
- LL Barkat
- Luke/Annika
- Mark Galli
- Mark Roberts
- Michael Kruse
- Nexus
- Owen Youngman
- Ted Gossard
- Tom Wright
Recommended Online Readings:
Scholarly Books I’ve written:
- Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels
- Hist Jesus Anthology
- Interpreting the Synoptic Gospels
- Introducing NT Interpretation
- Jesus and His Death
- Jesus in Memory (ed.)
- New Vision for Israel
- Synoptics: Biblio
- The Face of New Testament Studies
- Who Do They Say I Am?
Scholarship Online:
- Apollos
- Books & Culture
- ChristianityToday
- CS Lewis
- EAC
- Early Xian Writings
- Euaggelion
- Gospels
- Jesus and His Death Blog
- Karl Barth Online
- Mark Goodacre’s Weblog
- Online Journals Access
- Online Pseudepigraph
- Pete Enns
- Prime Time Jesus
- Theopedia
- ThinkTank
Stuff online:
- 5 Streams
- Big Muddy
- Catalyst Scripture
- Catching the Wave
- DaVinci Code
- Forgiveness
- Future or Fad?
- Gospel of Judas
- High Calling
- Interview on Emerging
- Interview with LL Barkat
- IVCF Eikons
- IVCF Gospel
- John Bunyan
- Keys of the Kingdom
- Lake Emerging
- Mary in CT
- Missional in Seattle
- Missional Matrix
- Nativity Story
- Never Alone
- New Perspective
- Pepperdine Interview
- Professor as Scholar
- Recl Mind Mary 1
- Robust Gospel
- Social Justice
- Trojan Horse 2
- WiredParish Mary Interview
- Word/World NPP














posted January 15, 2010 at 8:06 am
Admittedly I haven’t read Luck’s book, but going by your summary I’m not convinced of his argument. His method seems flawed – Jesus explicitly says that parts of the Jewish law code were included “because of the hardness of your hearts,” and then goes on to say ” And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery” (Matt 19:8-9). As I see it, the only way to argue that something is legitimate grounds for Christians to divorce is to show that it falls under the category of “sexual immorality” (porneia). Does Luck address this concern?
posted January 15, 2010 at 8:47 am
Coleman, yes he does. Luck believes divorce is the result of being “cracked Eikons” — broken, sinful humans. In that kind of world, divorce happens.
Do you think that justifiable divorce can only happen when porneia occurs? What about 1 Cor 7?
posted January 15, 2010 at 10:48 am
And what of the fact that Jesus said that any man who marries a previously divorced (put away) woman also commits adultery? Putting it on today’s culture, it would mean even if a woman was divorced by a cheating/lying abusive husband that she would have no right to marry again. Doesn’t seem right…any other interpretations?
To me, its a cultural issue – women had no rights in Jesus’ day. This was Jesus expanding the rights of women, protecting them from husband who would use the Law of Moses to suit themselves.
posted January 15, 2010 at 10:55 am
Scot,
1 Cor. 7 does suggest that divorce for other reasons is “permissible” but when both parties are believers remarriage is not allowed (except to each other). If one party is not a believer and chooses to leave then the believer is “released” and Paul says nothing about remarriage to others, presumably it is allowed.
But divorce without the possibility for future remarriage is still a pretty tough directive.
posted January 15, 2010 at 10:59 am
RJS, part of the idea of divorce in the ancient world of Judaism entailed “setting a woman free” and that meant remarriage. So, many today interpret Matt 5′s prohibition of married a divorced woman” means marrying an impermissibly divorced woman.
Furthermore, the intent of Jesus is as much to denounce easy divorce as it is to set out all the ground rules for permissibility. Had Jesus meant “this reason and this reason only” then Paul’s addition would be contra Jesus.
posted January 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Coleman #1 and Scot #2,
I see Jesus command as concerning initiating divorce and 1 Cor. 7 is discussing when someone else wants to divorce you.
posted January 15, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I wish more pastors would jump into this discussion. Pastors live where alleged “biblical” interpretations on marriage, divorce and remarriage intersect with living, breathing, sometimes desperately hurting men and women. Those limiting divorce to just *porneia* with or without freedom to remarry sometimes come off as taking the biblical “high ground.” That may seem correct doctrinally, but it is pitifully ungracious pastorally. I’ve seen abusive husbands gloat that their wive cannot divorce them because “hey, I didn’t cheat on her or nothing.” They are sexually faithful and maritally neanderthals, bullying and threatening and “pure as they driven snow” sexually. Finally, the wife says, “I’ve had it” and wants a divorce and SHE comes off as biblically sinful one. It’s a load of cr*p…pardon my Greek. Luck is saying that marriage is a lot more than about SEXUAL faithfulness.
posted January 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm
John, I agree..
Why not more pastors who are struggling with this issue in their church?
posted January 15, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I think evangelicals have idealized the post-WWII nuclear family unit and have tried to preserve it with proof-texting marriage doctrines. A prevailing view or two takes the “high ground” and pastors get scared to buck the status quo. Pastors lament the damage they see and instead of dealing *ad hoc* with the damage before their eyes, they hide behind or acquiesce to the “biblical view.” Pastors sense that they must protect doctrine not real human lives. Divorce is the 21st century version of Sabbath laws.
posted January 15, 2010 at 4:46 pm
John,
I don’t think that the “proof-texting marriage doctrines” are post WWII. But I do think that some of the ontological arguments may be a cultural response within evangelicalism. We can defend marriage better if it is an ontological change rather than a covenant entered into.
But isn’t some of our response to the fact that divorce seems at times a default. Divorce for abuse should be allowed by all – but where is the line to be drawn within Christian communities?
posted January 16, 2010 at 1:32 pm
I would be interested to know how pastors would view the issue of “pornography” and it’s affect on the one viewing it and the affect on the marriage covenant with respect to the dissolution of a marriage.
posted January 21, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I wrote an article recently related to this topic. In the article I ask why so many churches accept unrepentant divorcees and remarried couples into fellowship, but reject unrepentant LGBT persons and couples. It is a hypocrisy that needs examining.
You can read more at http://blog.emergingworshiper.org.