Daily Prayers:
- A. Book of Common Prayer
- A. Book of Common Prayer 2
- A. Divine Hours
- A. Evening Prayer (Anglican)
- A. Morning Prayer (Anglican)
- Celtic Prayer
- Creeds of Christendom
- Eastern Orthodox Prayers
- Lectionary
- Liturgy of the Hours
- Missio Dei
Emerging Movement:
- Andrew Jones
- Andrew Perriman
- Anthony Stiff
- Art Boulet
- Bob Robinson
- Br. Maynard
- Dan Kimball
- David Fitch
- Dogwood Abbey
- Ecclesia Network
- Emerging Women
- Eugene Cho
- Henrik Holmgaard
- Jamie Arpin-Ricci
- Jazz Theologian
- John Frye
- John Lagrou
- Jonny Baker
- JR Briggs
- Leonard Hjamarlson
- LeRon Shults
- Lukas McKnight
- Peggy Brown
- Sivin Kit
- Stephen Shields
- Steve McCoy
- Steve Taylor
- Tamara Buchan
- The Practicing Church
- Tim Miekley
- Todd Hiestand
- Tom Smith (RSA)
- Tony Jones
Other sites I frequent:
- Allan Bevere
- Andy Rowell
- Attie Nel
- Barna
- Brad Boydston
- Chris Ridgeway
- CC Blogs
- Don Johnson
- Ed Gilbreath
- Erika Haub (Carney)
- Faith Blogging
- Falsani
- Fr. Rob
- Hummers
- iMonk
- James McGrath
- Jim Martin
- John Stackhouse
- JR Woodward
- Karen Spears Zacharias
- Laura Barringer
- LaVonne Neff
- LeaderFOCUS
- LL Barkat
- Luke/Annika
- Mark Galli
- Mark Roberts
- Michael Kruse
- Nexus
- Owen Youngman
- Ted Gossard
- Tom Wright
Recommended Online Readings:
Scholarly Books I’ve written:
- Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels
- Hist Jesus Anthology
- Interpreting the Synoptic Gospels
- Introducing NT Interpretation
- Jesus and His Death
- Jesus in Memory (ed.)
- New Vision for Israel
- Synoptics: Biblio
- The Face of New Testament Studies
- Who Do They Say I Am?
Scholarship Online:
- Apollos
- Books & Culture
- ChristianityToday
- CS Lewis
- EAC
- Early Xian Writings
- Euaggelion
- Gospels
- Jesus and His Death Blog
- Karl Barth Online
- Mark Goodacre’s Weblog
- Online Journals Access
- Online Pseudepigraph
- Pete Enns
- Prime Time Jesus
- Theopedia
- ThinkTank
Stuff online:
- 5 Streams
- Big Muddy
- Catalyst Scripture
- Catching the Wave
- DaVinci Code
- Forgiveness
- Future or Fad?
- Gospel of Judas
- High Calling
- Interview on Emerging
- Interview with LL Barkat
- IVCF Eikons
- IVCF Gospel
- John Bunyan
- Keys of the Kingdom
- Lake Emerging
- Mary in CT
- Missional in Seattle
- Missional Matrix
- Nativity Story
- Never Alone
- New Perspective
- Pepperdine Interview
- Professor as Scholar
- Recl Mind Mary 1
- Robust Gospel
- Social Justice
- Trojan Horse 2
- WiredParish Mary Interview
- Word/World NPP














posted February 9, 2010 at 7:05 am
Scot,
I’m a low church Christian who grew up Catholic. I listened to the sermon on the Lord’s Prayer that you did at Mars Hill and found it really helpful – I agree that sometimes in low church we just find something to be wrong because “that’s what the Catholics do”.
posted February 9, 2010 at 9:46 am
Fixed-hour prayer is a way of discipling the time we’ve been given in our lives. I think low-church Christians (and I’d put myself in that camp, though in recent years I’ve been migrating toward some higher-church prayer practices) love the idea of “always-on” access to God without the formality of a schedule. They chafe at the religiosity of schedules smacking of obligation or works. The idea for many is that fixed hour prayer is a false, human-centered way of scripting connection with God. Low church people fear those scripts – even if what replaces them is something fragmented, undisciplined and shallow.
posted February 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm
I think Michelle is correct in her analysis, but I think the low church preference for “always on” access to God in reality is more often a “never on”. I think we all overestimate our attention to prayer and we probably need a regular prayer practice (if we are honest with ourselves) just to insure that we do pray. I recently listened to a two-part podcast with Frederica Matthewes-Green about The Jesus Prayer. She had some really useful insights on fixed-hour prayer and contemplation. I would recommend listening. I searched Frederica Here and Now in podcasts on iTunes. You want the 12/31/09 and 1/6/10 editions.
posted February 9, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Good point about time being carefully regulated. I am expected at work at a certain time each day and if I miss that there’s a penalty. For me, I’ve never given much thought to fixed hour prayer and I suppose it’s because I look at prayer as a spontaneous act. Praying at a fixed hour or praying prayers out of a prayer book feels very un-spontaneous. However, as I’ve defended the use of rote prayers to low churchers with my premise being that we can’t know what’s in someone’s heart, it sounds like I need to take my own advice. There’s no reason that praying at fixed hours can’t be spontaneous in terms of how and what I pray.
posted February 9, 2010 at 5:14 pm
“Too Catholic,” “Too religious,” or “Too stifling,” I would guess, particularly if we carry baggage from going through the motions as kids. Many of us chafe at the thought of structure or discipline, as they sound like hindrances to a more lively and experiential religion or to our religious “freedom in Christ.” Of course, that quickly freedom starts to resemble spiritual pride — and most of us have probably never been disciplined enough to qualify for an opinion on spiritual disciplines.
At root, I suspect we will find not a little of that ol’ “I don’t like it or get it and can’t stand the possibility that you might” attitude.
posted February 9, 2010 at 6:52 pm
I have, in the past year, grown to love the concept of fixed hour prayer. I often find it difficult to integrate into my life with consistency, but when I am practicing it, I not only enjoy the connection to Christians everywhere and from every time, but I also feel closer to God.
As to why so many low churches retreat from the idea of fixed hour prayer, I think it has a lot to do with its Catholic connection.
Indeed the pendulum has swung so far that it is finally beginning to swing back. This is why many evangelicals today and even low church individuals are becoming infatuated with and truly grown by this concept of fixed hour prayer. There are, however, some who were pushed (or pushed) with the pendulum away from all things Catholic. Some of them are staying at the extreme, as far away from Catholicism as they can. Many of them are elders and preachers in our churches. I’m not trying to say all churches are like this in the low tradition. My own church, while not pushing fixed hour prayer as a body, is allowing me to teach a class on monastic spirituality where this will be one of our topics.
My question is not why are some afraid of this spiritual discipline, but what can we do to allay those fears?
posted February 10, 2010 at 12:14 pm
David,
one thing that could be done would be to remind people that the first Christians were Jews, and continued many aspects of Jewish worship. (It was approximately ten years between the Lord’s ascension and Cornelius’ vision.) One of those aspects was fixed hour prayer- “seven times a day will I praise You”. When Peter and John prayed for the begging paralytic to be healed, they were on their way to the temple for – yes, that’s right – fixed hour prayer.
Dana
posted February 10, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Dana,
That is not a bad idea, though I feel that the swing away from Catholicism was also a swing away from Judaism. Many people in parts of my church’s movement (though not at my church) believe that the OT is not useful for finding spiritual practices. Nevertheless, they need to learn it.