
Are there any new emerging proposals for preaching? Jim Belcher, in
Deep Church: A Third Way Beyond Emerging and Traditional
examines the theory of Doug Pagitt. (I blogged about that book with Doug when it came out, and since then I've done more thinking about his proposal.)
The questions I have are these: Do you think there is a problem with preaching in the traditional model? (We need to hear from you.) What are the problems? Is it what Pagitt calls "speaching"? Is there a way forward? What needs to be done?
Do you think Doug Pagitt's preaching proposals are typical or uncommon or rare among emerging types? Or is it unique to Doug and Solomon's Porch? What proposals are you hearing about emerging preaching?
But this post is about Belcher's proposal for preaching a Third Way. Belcher criticizes traditional preaching through a few stereotypes: he calls it "moralistic preaching" and it produces either Pharisees or or dispirited dropouts.

Is there a Third Way for worship? Jim Belcher, in
Deep Church: A Third Way Beyond Emerging and Traditional
examines this question and contends there is a genuine third way beyond the traditional and the emerging.
What is your church doing to recover the ancient worship traditions? What are first steps for discovering our roots?
Jim's own experience might well express the whole issue: "I longed for the experience of God's presence and desired the restoration of liturgical elements of worship. I had grown weary of the thinness of contemporary worship, which seemed so lifeless and often done by rote. But I didn't want to return to the traditional style I grew up with ..." (124).
So what does he want?

So, what about the gospel? Is there a Third Way for the gospel? Isn't the traditional gospel the real gospel? Jim Belcher, in
Deep Church: A Third Way Beyond Emerging and Traditional
, poses this question by examining the gospel in Brian McLaren.
Jim Belcher says the problem for the emerging criticism of tradition is that the gospel is reduced to forgiveness and eternal life; the critics of Brian say he has reduced the gospel to social justice, and therefore resurrected the social gospel. Belcher says the problem is there is reductionism on both sides and he proposes a Third Way.
I do have a critique here, and I wish Jim had provided as much critical evaluation of a traditonalist -- one that really does spend too much time seeing the gospel as fire insurance and leading too much to concern with life after death and not enough with life in the here and now.
So, I'm wondering if you readers have any really clear examples of the gospel reduced in that direction? I'm not asking for names so much as sterling examples.

Jim Belcher's right about this, and it is one of the deep characteristics about the emerging movement and it emerges from a suspicion about how evangelism works, about how the gospel works, about how conversion actually works:
"What do people have to believe before they belong? What is the role of doctrine? What is the role of community in bringing people to and nurturing them in the faith?" (94). The mantra one can hear at times is "belonging before believing." People believe in today's world after belonging.
What is the proper order? Do you think "belonging before believing" is a good strategy today? What do you think is required in order to "belong" to a church community? What are the weaknesses? Is this the old mainline, liturgical "assumption that one is a Christian" or is it a different strategy? How "far in" does "belong" mean: Does it mean Lord's Supper, teaching, leadership? Where does the "belong before believe" draw the line? Does it draw a line at all?
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According to Jim Belcher, a pastor-theologian, there is Third Way with, between and beyond the traditional and the emergent. He sketches such a Third Way in his new book, Deep Church: A Third Way Beyond Emerging and Traditional .One...