J-Walking

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Wednesday November 29, 2006

Day after tomorrow Rick Warren will be holding a massive two-day conference on the global AIDS crisis at Saddleback Church in Orange County, California. It is an extraordinary event that will include addresses by Bono and Bill and Melinda Gates,...
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Tenoch
November 29, 2006 3:14 PM
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And to avoid blatant hypocrisy, those "Christian" powerbrokers need to ban all pro-war(pro-death) members of Saddleback Church and the entire U.S. evangelical movement. Then, and only then, will I start taking them seriously.

Gretchen
November 29, 2006 4:57 PM
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I think you are right that these certain Christians feel their 'power' fading. While I am pro-life, I do not hate those who feel otherwise. All Christians have the common bond of faith in Jesus Christ upon which to unify. When those certain leaders seek to divide Christians from one another because of differing views they cause their brethren to stumble and they set themselves up for a fall.

Terry
November 29, 2006 6:56 PM
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This so clearly illustrates David's contention that politically-motivated, mean spirited Religious Right Christians have tarnished Jesus's image. It seems crazy that any Christian would attack another for trying to help those in need.
Basically they are saying that any effort to ease suffering is irrelevant unless thier own brand of Christian - an no one else- is involved. Insane.
Could Jesus really be that cold-hearted and myopic? NO! But I bet lots of people think he must be! Look what his self-proclaimed messengers are saying! I too am hopeful that more Christians go the way of Pastors Warren and Perry and just help people. Thank you David for continuing doing what you are doing.

SJ Camp
November 29, 2006 9:09 PM
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David Kuo's argument is foolish and benign. Obama has a lot to answer for for supporting PBA Partial Birth Abortion and then with utter political hypocrisy say he is for fighting for the life of those dying with AIDS. I have ministered to those with AIDS for almost twenty years. It is an issue worth fighting. And people with AIDS need hope. As a Christian, the greatest hope anyone could have is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. We will all die one day--that is a certainty. But are we prepared to die and face eternity? This has always been the supreme mission of the church--the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The Pro-lifers are not old and out of date--they couldn't be more relevant in today's moral pluralistic society that is duplicitous at every turn. Mr. Warren should be ashamed for supporting his "can't we all get along" political religious agenda in having Obama speak. David, good book, "Tempting Faith" - I enjoyed reading it. But your column here couldn't be more off target. Sincerely, Steve Camp

Christopher Johnson
November 29, 2006 11:21 PM
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Oh please. Your assertion that "these old, tired, "Christian" political powerbrokers realize their time is past" borders on libel. And if you're quite willing to write off life in utero, if you're willing to overlook or justify killing the unborn(even up to the point of birth) so that you can focus on people who might some day tell you how wonderful you are, then your alleged concern about AIDS is nothing more than the lowest form of political posturing.

god-is-in-the-tv
November 30, 2006 6:38 PM
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No one is "writing off life in utero." They're just saying AIDS is one issue, and abortion is another. It is possible for people to have differing viewpoints and still be right with God, you know.

oldgalinfl
December 1, 2006 1:15 AM
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Here's a couple of worldly, scholarly, seemingly intelligent, supposedly Godly, self acclaimed Christians who obviously don't have the good sense God gave a goose!! To get the point the idiots have to read the whole book................and I'm not talking about YOUR book!!!

Elemgee
December 1, 2006 8:41 PM
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"god-is-in-the-tv: "...It is possible for people to have differing viewpoints and still be right with God, you know."
The problem is, you might as well be saying the above in Chinese to the folks that we're talking about in this column. They simply do not understand what you mean by that statement. Nor do they see their hypocrisy in supporting the war, allowing people to suffer and die in Darfur, or the death penalty. Or of a woman dying because abortions for any reason are outlawed. For these people, there is no such thing as a continuum of an issue, of coming together, dialogue, or respectful disagreement--only the black and white ideology of control. I sometimes wonder what we can do when religious people refuse to listen or to acknowledge anything that is not what they already believe, and furthermore try to stop the rest of us from having different ideals. I have concluded that we just might have to act like we don't hear THEM, move ahead and leave them behind.

god-is-in-the-tv
December 4, 2006 6:53 PM
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For these people, there is no such thing as a continuum of an issue, of coming together, dialogue, or respectful disagreement--only the black and white ideology of control. Amen. And Amen.

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