Jason H, David Kuo made no claims about racism. Anywya, you can endulge in the "no racism here" mantra all you want. In either case, the GOP is still guilty of fear-mongering and deception. Go ahead, defend GOP fear-mongering and deception all you want. I wonder why Jesus didn't think to do that?
Jason H.
November 7, 2006 4:36 AM
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I didn't say David Kuo said it was racist. But the other blog did, and David Kuo didn't disagree with the other blog's assesment, so I took the opportunity to disagree. How do you figure that I'm defending "GOP fear-mongering?" I said the ad hits below the belt. I didn't defend it, so I would appreciate it if you didn't say I did. I simply said it is not racist. We are not solving any problems when we claim something to be racist and it isn't. We only distract ourselves from the real problems. Go ahead, put words in my mouth. I wonder why Jesus didn't do that?
Tenoch
November 7, 2006 2:21 PM
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Jason H, Since you didn't disagree with GOP fear-mongering and deception in your post, I took the opportunity to point that out. When you fail to provide a simple straight answer about your position on GOP fear-mongering and deception--twice on this thread already--you certainly confuse your readers and moreover distract from the very real problems of this ad. Why all the obfuscating, Jason?
curiouser and curiouser...
November 8, 2006 7:53 PM
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Jason H, David said nothing about racism. Personally what I found objectinable were the LIES that 1. "Family Values Are Under Attack", and 2. "If Democrats Gain Control of Congress Our Values Will Be Destroyed". That, and the picture of an obviously frightened woman with a man's hand agressively covering her mouth in some sort of either assault or an attempt to at the very lest silence her. Sorry, but what I got from the ad was nothing more than tyupical scare-mongering brought to us by the New York Republican State Committee. America has been told for the last 6 years now that Americans need to be afraid, be VERY afraid. (In fact, the top entry on David's blog linked to an ad from the "Family" "Research" "Council" saying just those words.) Aren't you tired of being afraid? Of Iraqis, Afghanis, El Quaeda, gays, when the real threats come from overspending on unjustified wars that profit the likes of Halliburton? Not much to do with racism, I'm afraid.
James Love
November 11, 2006 6:59 AM
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Mr. Kuo, This is a perfect example of what you have been talking about, the cancerous destruction on both sides of the aisle of the spiritual (which only exists when it is part of our daily lives and actions) by the political. I saw your lecture on CSPAN and thought it was very edifying. Especially the scripture you quoted: if you can not love your fellow man you have seen, how can you love God whom you haven't seen ... (or something to that effect). That's precisely the point. Love implies total cooperation and love has no place for competition. The competition of the political destroys love. Thanks you for that. I saw you on Anderson Kooper (CNN) tonight. The woman speaking for the Family Research Council had a point in a way, however her demeanor was very hyper, very wired (I've seen this behaviour in Ms. Coulter and others i.e. Monica Crowely etc.) With so much intensity invested in their talking points, sometimes they are bound to have a kernel of truth in their arguments. But for the most part, it's very divisive. What I wanted to hear you say to her in addition to your very grounded remarks about the spiritual, was to ask her how they felt about WAR. After all, Jesus said "He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword" "Judge not,... love your enemies" etc. How any Christian can support the murder of another human in the name of patriotism, or even self defense boggles the mind. We are taught to trust God to defend us. Those of little faith resort to state approved murder. The same is true regarding capital punishment.
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Jason H, David Kuo made no claims about racism.
Anywya, you can endulge in the "no racism here" mantra all you want. In either case, the GOP is still guilty of fear-mongering and deception. Go ahead, defend GOP fear-mongering and deception all you want.
I wonder why Jesus didn't think to do that?
I didn't say David Kuo said it was racist. But the other blog did, and David Kuo didn't disagree with the other blog's assesment, so I took the opportunity to disagree. How do you figure that I'm defending "GOP fear-mongering?" I said the ad hits below the belt. I didn't defend it, so I would appreciate it if you didn't say I did. I simply said it is not racist. We are not solving any problems when we claim something to be racist and it isn't. We only distract ourselves from the real problems. Go ahead, put words in my mouth. I wonder why Jesus didn't do that?
Jason H, Since you didn't disagree with GOP fear-mongering and deception in your post, I took the opportunity to point that out. When you fail to provide a simple straight answer about your position on GOP fear-mongering and deception--twice on this thread already--you certainly confuse your readers and moreover distract from the very real problems of this ad.
Why all the obfuscating, Jason?
Jason H, David said nothing about racism. Personally what I found objectinable were the LIES that 1. "Family Values Are Under Attack", and 2. "If Democrats Gain Control of Congress Our Values Will Be Destroyed". That, and the picture of an obviously frightened woman with a man's hand agressively covering her mouth in some sort of either assault or an attempt to at the very lest silence her. Sorry, but what I got from the ad was nothing more than tyupical scare-mongering brought to us by the New York Republican State Committee. America has been told for the last 6 years now that Americans need to be afraid, be VERY afraid. (In fact, the top entry on David's blog linked to an ad from the "Family" "Research" "Council" saying just those words.) Aren't you tired of being afraid? Of Iraqis, Afghanis, El Quaeda, gays, when the real threats come from overspending on unjustified wars that profit the likes of Halliburton? Not much to do with racism, I'm afraid.
Mr. Kuo, This is a perfect example of what you have been talking about, the cancerous destruction on both sides of the aisle of the spiritual (which only exists when it is part of our daily lives and actions) by the political. I saw your lecture on CSPAN and thought it was very edifying. Especially the scripture you quoted: if you can not love your fellow man you have seen, how can you love God whom you haven't seen ... (or something to that effect). That's precisely the point. Love implies total cooperation and love has no place for competition. The competition of the political destroys love. Thanks you for that. I saw you on Anderson Kooper (CNN) tonight. The woman speaking for the Family Research Council had a point in a way, however her demeanor was very hyper, very wired (I've seen this behaviour in Ms. Coulter and others i.e. Monica Crowely etc.) With so much intensity invested in their talking points, sometimes they are bound to have a kernel of truth in their arguments. But for the most part, it's very divisive. What I wanted to hear you say to her in addition to your very grounded remarks about the spiritual, was to ask her how they felt about WAR. After all, Jesus said "He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword" "Judge not,... love your enemies" etc. How any Christian can support the murder of another human in the name of patriotism, or even self defense boggles the mind. We are taught to trust God to defend us. Those of little faith resort to state approved murder. The same is true regarding capital punishment.
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