Forgetting Satan

I hear you. Why is it seen as unreasonable to assume that perhaps the killer's problem was as simple as anger out of control? (Probably because that would mean we all are capable of such things). When I watched his videos on NBC, he didn't seem to be anything but angry. It would seem to me that a mentally ill person would not have such a sharp sense of injustice and vengeance as he had, but I'm open to suggestion, for I'm not a specialist on the complexities of the mind.
Then again, maybe there is a tie between anger and mental instability (STRESS: in some cases, not all!). In Genesis 4, the LORD warns Cain to "master" his sin, because it wanted to control him. Paul tells us in Romans not to be "overcome by evil." Those texts seem to indicate that anger can get to a point where it controls us and makes us irrational creatures, so in that sense, anger left unchecked can affect the mind.
As I hear more about the killer, I find that he shared something in common with Christ: "a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief." YET, he was also a stark contrast to Christ, who refused to retaliate and chose to love.
His Name be praised.

Maybe I can temporarily become "possessed" by a demon, commit a bunch of atrocities and get off the hook because I'm not "possessed" anymore?
Sound familiar? Sound reasonable to you?

Here are some wise thoughts: http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110009962 cheers, Paul

Follow the Liberal (now called Progressive) Brick Road from Evolution, to Abortion, to divorce rates, to Gay Marriage. And Christians are hated intensely now. By Muslims and Liberals. Satan is a reality.
A fact. And He is having a field day.

When I read the embarassing superstitions that some Christians spew on these webpages I feel like I'm at the margins of Christianity. I cannot agree with this. Even Jesus, when he 'removed spirits' (which is what he did most of the time), was using traditional shamanic practices which are today understood in the light of psychoanalysis - spirits are psychological objects. I have a Jungian understanding of these things, which I think should shed some light on the issue. Psychoanalyst Carl Jung spoke of 'the shadow' self, that part of the psyche which is rejected, supressed, and becomes a complex in our unconscious mind. When we act out our worst fears and our deepest anger, we are acting out the shadow part of our psyche. This is natural: everyone has a shadow self. Carl Jung visited mediums during their seances and documented very thorough psychological profiles on the mediums. Cho never expressed himself, he hid all of his emotions, perhaps for fear of rejection. He was a volcano, psychologically speaking, he had all of his natural, human emotions bottled up and his ego was weak, therefore his shadow self had grown almighty and took over his psyche. He had abandoned rational thinking because almost the entirety of his life was repressed, he over identified with his shadow self. When a person's ego is overwhelmed with an archetype of the unconscious, this is known as inflation. Oh, and to take this issue and turn it into an opportunity to rant against liberals and gay marriage ... that is called projection.

Projection, another neologism of the soul doctors. Evil has a path.
As Jesus indicates many are on it.
Interesting that "the Liberals" hold to their truths as so absolute. Evolution is an absolute. The unborn human not being a human is so absolute (to Liberals), gay being OK is so absolute etc., etc., etc..
You have the dark world versus the correct world. The world of Christ being reality and the fakers creating a queer quasi-version of it. Rather, what your offering Saadya, is called psycho-babble. Psyche, it is no coincidence that the Greek word means Soul. A person in the Roman world wasn't "a" genius" he had a Genius, "guiding" him. The world of psychology is man's feeble attempt at trying to label what he cannot understand, or chooses to ignore, or is complicit in implementing against moral truth. How many psychologists have invented excuses for evil behavior? Actually it apears to be their profession.
Thew world of Psychologists, is a world defined by their prophets, priests and kings. It is very often antithetical to reality. The evil person always has an out, except of course for Christians, who are the newly DSM IV labeled mentally ill group. How convenient.
Sodomy and its aherants and perpetrators are out, and Christian faith is in the insanity category. Mmmm hmmm. Jesus was recognized by the demons he cast out, as the Judge of all of the Universe. Certainly the Judge of them and their "behaviors." Shamans and psychologists (being one and the same) are just fake copies at best. Even the Demons know this. Follow the Liberal Brick road. It is the same no matter what century it is built in.

Baac, Right-wing harsh radio? I have yet to hear them not be accurate about who an what are evil. But then again, the Romans and the Pharisees thought the Jesus and His followers were being rather harssh on them and their violent behaviors as well. It is the Left that labels and denigrates with ease anyone that opposes their socialist/communist/godless agenda. They are allowed to hate in public discourse with total license. Be honest.

Donny, your last two sentences are the most generous I've seen you write. I appreciate your point and agree.

Donny, the 51st Psalm is a favorite of mine as well. In my denomination, we sing a verse after communion. And I was having a similar thought this morning, that of all the parents who lost children in that tragedy, the Chos are the ones who must be least comforted by sharing that grief. I prayed for them, too, and wondered what I could do. I thought about writing but I'm not sure I'd open the mail if I were them.

The Amish community taught us much about forgiveness after their terrible tragedy. They did not hesitate to reach out to the wife of the shooter. But we each much reach forgiveness in the best way we can.

I believe these demons are real because I have had contact with them. It is a third of the angles that side with satan, and lost their standing with God, and are only capable of evil now.
It is possible that Cho was dealing with what is called a familiar spirit, it mimics his thoughts and it gets to the point where you think its thoughts are his thoughts. I know about this because this is the problem I am suffering. I never lost contact with my humanity though as Cho did, never crossed the line, I think many times these evil thoughts just pop up but I know they are not mine I know they are the work of the dark one, I have even heard its voice, I don't know why Jesus is allowing me to go through this but he is, like Cho I was always the loner, until I started going to Church. When you see a person like Cho, you need to let him know that Jesus loves him, not make fun of him and call him question mark man, most of the student seemed to want nothing to do with him, to me it did not seem like he had a single real friend, sure they invited him to football games and asked him what his major was but these are all typical social things that one would expect, the only person who tried to reach out to him was the teacher, perhaps, in cho's isolation, and under the taunt of being the question mark man, he just lost it, there is no excuse for what he did, but I do feel sorry for him, as much as I feel bad for the families and those that died, as I cried many times. I do believe that psychiatric help could have helped him, and perhaps it would have made this demonic force that was in control of his life weaker, I take psychotropic dead, or I get psychotic. Period. Also though when I am not on the meds strange things happen as it is almost like the demon begins to take over my body, I have even heard its voice, and seen other entitys, probably if they had their way I would just be another Cho, who knows how many of our acts our inspired by these evil beings? We live in sex crazed climate on the internet. Does the devil have the power of temptation? Over the years we have seen many shootings from many people from all walks of life, none of them rational, I even remember the pilot who crashed the plane on purpose. The heart is like soil the bad thought have to be dug out and it has to constantly be softened. We know that humans with their free will are capable of such henious acts of killing, some how though cho has a place in my heart and I don't really understand why except because I have been down that lonely road myself too, and have felt alot of anger, but unlike cho, I didn't give up on the world, and lose control of the anger that dwelt with in me, I would rather kill myself before I hurt someeone else, we become what we think about who knows what Cho allowed himself to think about in the weeks before the shooting, the fact the he went off on a long tirade about the blood of Jeus Christ is evidence that he might have been dealing with one of these shadowy entities, in ancient times these beings were acknowledged to exist, they didnt have all this foolishness of eloquent speakers trying to make a buck propounding foolish ideas, the more we think that satan is not real the stronger him or his cronies can become in our lives, in fact he probably likes it when we think he is not real, I have my own personal testimony that he is real, and believe that there are even people who worship satan that are engaged in criminal acts, Jesus called him the prince of the world, adn the bible said the whole world is lying in his power, after he is cast out of heaven, than Jesus will set his sites on earth to banish him from earth too, these creatures are powerful that play on the worst of all of us, and they are shadows invisible unless they choose to show themselves, there are even those who have chosen the path of evil, and chosen to serve them, I don't belive Cho was mentall ill, he definitely was not psychotic as to be able to apparently plan out so meticuously the attacks, Cho gave in to the dark side and treated his class mates like they were in some kind of video game, he gave in to his anger and chose the dark side, a little whisper here or there, who knows how long the enemy played on him? And we play right along with him when we refer to cho as question mark man and taunt him as it was said happened to him in highschool. After the Columbine shootings there was a brother of a girl that was killed that chose to go to schools across the country and speak that what we need is an atmosphere of love, there should have been people praying for cho long before it went this far, no man is an island.