I won't tackle President Bush's lies about SCHIP, I'll let someone else do it.
I choose conservative Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley from Iowa tackling the White House assertion - no, the White House lie - that Bush vetoed the bill because it provided health care help for "some households with incomes of up to $83,000 a year."
Here is what the Senator had to say:
After hearing Bush say Thursday that he was going to veto the bill in part because it would allow families of four making $80,000 to place their children on the the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), Grassley blasted the president, saying his assertion was dead wrong."The president has been served wrong information about what our bill will do," Grassley said Thursday between Senate votes. "There's nothing in our bill that would do that. His understanding of the bill was wrong."
Bush, in a morning news conference, told reporters that "Congress has made the decision to expand the program up to $80,000. ... This is a step toward federalization of health care."
Bottom line - the $83,000 figure is a lie that makes anything Pinocchio said look downright honest.
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Donny, let me try.
John 3:14 clearly states "and as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up." and let's consider, have you ever seen a Republican hold up a snake? Literally, no, but figuratively, yes. No one who takes the bible literally should support the Bush-figurative-pagan veto of SCHIP. Bush is a metaphorical Christian, not a "true" one.
Man, this stuff practically writes itself!
Well Doug, that's your best attempt at scripture supporting Liberals and Progressives?
Your position would have validity "if" Liberals were Christians, and if it made some kind of sense. But Liberals and Progressives pick and choose what is and what isn't "really" in the Bible and the rest they alter whenever they want to to inflict some heresy onto a mob of hedonists. The hippies are still Liberal Democrats, but have changed their stripes to "Progressive."
George Bush is dealing with the reality of Satan controlling much of the world. Remember Satan's conversation with Christ Jesus? Remember what Paul said about dealing with "powers and principalities?"
Mr. Bush is dealing with the halls of Congress and those ruling Islamic, African, Latin and European and communist countries. He has done well in my opinion.
Progressives and Liberals (the Democrats) desire more than anything else to force their totalitarian communism into every facet of American life.
>>>"But Liberals and Progressives pick and choose what is and what isn't "really" in the Bible..." Donny
Donny, Over on "God's Politics" you were just pontificating how the members of the early church weren't known as Christians - apparently Acts 11:16-28 isn't in your Bible which, come to think of it, shouldn't really be all that surprising. Your postings are regular reminders that there's a lot of stuff missing from whatever Marcionite version of the Bible you bow down to every morning!
No, Donny. My position was satire and wouldn't have validity under any circumstances.
My point was just because you quote scripture and then make declarative statements doesn't mean you've proven anything scripturally. I can't remember the exact quote but Kafka said something along the lines that metaphors can express ideas but don't prove them.
Incidentally, Donny, I'm not trying to attack you as a person or your values, but I find your posts frustrating. When I read such certainty and aggression with suck reckless reasoning I tend to reflexively consider the speaker a fool or worse. I consider you intelligent and something of a friend and would feel a lot better for you if your posts were more persuasive, whether or not they persuade me or other readers.
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