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Values Voter Summit Straw Poll

Saturday October 20, 2007

Categories: Politics

Just in case there was ANY doubt about how little Christian conservative leaders care about the poor, here is their list of big issues on their presidential straw poll being taking this weekend:

3. Please indicate which issue is the most important in determining your opinion of the candidate that you will most likely vote for?

Abortion
Same-sex 'marriage'
Embryonic stem cell experiments
Tax cuts
Prayer in schools
Public display of the Ten Commandments
Federal 'hate crimes' legislation
The reinstatement of the 'Fairness Doctrine'
Taxpayer funding for abortions
Permanent tax relief for families
Voluntary, student-led prayer in public schools
Enforced obscenity laws

I must end the post now or else I will write things that I will have to repent for... NOTHING on poverty? at all???? Nothing????? @)#$*)(!&$)#(!*)!$&!)(*$)

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Comments
canucklehead
October 22, 2007 7:33 PM

David, I think you should go ahead and repent anyway, but I'm confused. Would you repent to the Lord or to Donny?

canucklehead
October 22, 2007 7:37 PM

This IS a serious question: how do you Americans tell one Christian-right lobby group from another? I think I've come across about six with the name "Family something or other" in them and I've only been online for 20 minutes! Supplementary: why don't those guys put all their eggs in one basket, or does that mean somebody would have to play 2nd fiddle to somebody else which, I guess, is really a big "ask" for modern Christians, isn't it?

Thinker
October 22, 2007 8:19 PM

I've given up responding to those who believe God hates the same things and the same people that they do. 30% of the population is both authoritarian (or likes an authoritarian world) and literalist. That means that last little 24% still believing in the administration - well - they can't help it. This also includes the Ralph Naders of the world - I'm still blaming Ralph by the way.
We do not know why some people can think only in terms that need enemies to make sense of the world and others cannot. Most of us fall in the middle somewhere. It is a responsibility of those who follow Jesus to learn to think outside of the cultural box in which we live.
Christians helping the poor - well, we're no better than non Christians nor are we worse. We like to give money to causes rather than the poor and we certainly don't like to get our hands too dirty. Our current generation - people who are my kids' age are more action oriented and seem to care much less for dogma and more about actually caring for the poor.
Our local megachurches - read their bulletins. Bowling league, bridge league, dinner for eight, teens practicing for band or choir, Scripture study, and only a few little entries about St. Vincent de Paul soup kitchen, or Sunday school gathering for Habitat for Humanity. But, go into a group of kids and they are planning on being of use in the world. Invisible Children has inspired so many young people. They don't necessarily do it for Jesus - but they do it to be of use.

pagansister
October 22, 2007 9:09 PM

SkipChurch:
Having spent much of my life in the deep south,(not there now) I agree with your post.

Donny:

Abortion: None of your business what a woman does with her OWN body. Doesn't encourage promiscuity, as you put it. Women who are going to be with many men, need condoms. Perhaps you'd encourage birth control, for all ages, and condoms, as that makes an abortion unnecessary. That would help stop STD's also.

Same-sex marriage: Again, none of your business, or any politians. How does this make the poor and their women and children suffer?

Embryonic stem cell research: Potential of saving lives of living folks, as stem cells are just that, cells, and are NOT a human plus many are thrown away due to lack of use. Poor women are going to sell eggs and be "slaves" to this as producers of fertilized eggs? Eggs harvested are NOT fertilized. That is done in a petri dish. A lot of college women sell eggs too. Also how about those sperm donors? Are they confined to poor men? NO, many a college guy has sold his sperm.

Prayer in school: Separation of church and state. Basic to America. NOT a Christian nation. Want prayer? Can be found in church and church based schools. BTW, what does that have to do with birth control in schools????

Voluntary prayer in schools: No, the first amendment doesn't. It allows free "speech", not public prayer in schools. The kids can pray in their head, which, due to tests etc., Im sure they do.

Public displays of 10 commandments: Again, separation of church & state. Read them in church and in your holy book. Memorize or whatever. No display, unless all other religions get their rules put on walls too. That is freedom.

Beautiful_Dreamer
December 21, 2007 8:13 AM

I can't believe the issue of the Ten Commandments being in public is even on the scale at all. Must be nice to live in a world where stuff like that is the most important thing to think about. Meanwhile, those of us who live in reality are concerned with whether or not people are able to take care of the kids they already have. But I could be deluded in thinking that is more important than making sure everyone is forced to view our beliefs exclusively on the public dime. This is what lack of sleep will do to you.

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