A former soldier, a Christian, continues the conversation on waterboarding and the Christian conscience: For me, there are some fundamental challenges that national security issues present to a Christian world-view. Being a former citizen soldier, I have already been forced...
And Muslims agree with which one of the scriptures you quote?
Just one?
Adam S
November 8, 2007 10:21 AM
Ok Donny. Give us one scripture that supports the use of torture.
Doug
November 8, 2007 11:21 AM
Remind me again, who is for torturing?
Congratulations to the poster for a well thought-out and scripturally cited post.
canucklehead
November 8, 2007 12:03 PM
And Jesus said unto Donny, "Do unto others according to the precedent they have set in doing unto you."
Jkidding
November 8, 2007 7:26 PM
Did Jesus say "Do unto others before they do unto you"
Elvis Elvisberg
November 8, 2007 10:31 PM
Jesus was all about drawing stark lines as to who his enemies were, and insisting on torture for anyone who fell outside those lines.
I think that's in Luke somewhere.
RJohnson
November 8, 2007 11:04 PM
Clearly Donny is of the opinion that since the Muslim terrorists torture and brutally kill their opposition, we are in the clear to do likewise.
I thought the standard was Jesus, Donny, not your interpretation of Muslim scripture.
Zero-Equals-Infinity
November 10, 2007 9:32 AM
This is what scares me: That people that hold views like Donny will allow a Bush-like approach to foreign policy to continue. My hope is that enough citizens have had the bad taste of failure, (moral, economic, and on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan), that the idea of an ideologically driven administration will not be elected in the future. We need sane and pragmatic approaches to foreign policy that also demonstrate a commitment to the greater good, if what is wanted is for the United States to become what it has the positive potential to be. Otherwise, the religious posturing is merely tribalism with a big stick, and blasphemous to boot.
Zero-Equals-Infinity
November 10, 2007 9:33 AM
Errata: "the idea of an ideologically driven administration will be so repugnant as to be unelectable by moral people in the future"
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And Muslims agree with which one of the scriptures you quote?
Just one?
Ok Donny. Give us one scripture that supports the use of torture.
Remind me again, who is for torturing?
Congratulations to the poster for a well thought-out and scripturally cited post.
And Jesus said unto Donny, "Do unto others according to the precedent they have set in doing unto you."
Did Jesus say "Do unto others before they do unto you"
Jesus was all about drawing stark lines as to who his enemies were, and insisting on torture for anyone who fell outside those lines.
I think that's in Luke somewhere.
Clearly Donny is of the opinion that since the Muslim terrorists torture and brutally kill their opposition, we are in the clear to do likewise.
I thought the standard was Jesus, Donny, not your interpretation of Muslim scripture.
This is what scares me: That people that hold views like Donny will allow a Bush-like approach to foreign policy to continue. My hope is that enough citizens have had the bad taste of failure, (moral, economic, and on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan), that the idea of an ideologically driven administration will not be elected in the future. We need sane and pragmatic approaches to foreign policy that also demonstrate a commitment to the greater good, if what is wanted is for the United States to become what it has the positive potential to be. Otherwise, the religious posturing is merely tribalism with a big stick, and blasphemous to boot.
Errata: "the idea of an ideologically driven administration will be so repugnant as to be unelectable by moral people in the future"
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