As everyone on this blog knows, I am what “they” label as a Right-wing Christian. BUT, I never saw Huckabee as my version of a Christian politician. I see him as a great governor and a decent person. It’s not my fault that he is morally sound on what a Christian should do on life, family and marriage. Blame that on Jesus and the Apostles influencing him the right way. What I see and hear in Huckabee is the “kind” of person I want in the White House battling the Congress (both right and left) and Muslim terrorists for the next eight-years and bringing justice to Americans. He is certainly NO neo-con and has proven that he is NOT from the licentious lascivious Leftist hordes sickening the youth of America both spiritually and morally. But also, I see in Obama and his wife, a couple that can also move among the Leftist-extremists (Marxists, secularists, licentious-pornifiers, altering marriage, pro-abortion, etc., etc., etc.,) without following their ways too much and inflicting them on our young people. It is odd, that David has not written on all of the “Christian support” that Obama has received. Actaully quite odd.

Donny, you are right on this. Huckabee and Obama are both decent human beings who envision more for this country – rather than less. Let us hope the campaigns reflect their integrity instead of the kind of campaigns to which we have become accustomed.

I do believe if it boils down to these two men, that “they” will not stoop to negative ads. Though looking at what Illinois is (politically and socially), is not a good sign for the rest of America. I can see how you were impressed with Edwards though. His speech was inspiring and delivered with what appeared to be honest passion. If these people (Obama, Edwards) were only pro-life, pro-family and pro-marriage amendment, and against taxation of families, I would leave and work for them today. But in keeping with moral soundness, Huckabee is what this country needs in a President. “Although,” Giuliani, may be the best candidate to keep the Christian-hating Leftists from inflicting their evil desires and behaviors onto the populace, and silencing the Church in reality. I’ll bet he doesn’t dance in drag in his heart of hearts. In New York, as a politician, I’m sure you have to be careful around Sodomites. But I like Obama, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his skin tone. His mother is caucasian, so, he is just as much white as he is black. Literally. I think he would keep the Humanists at arms-length when it came down to selling out, altering, or changing America to look like Godless Europe. I’m pretty happy this morning.

The people of Iowa disappoint. They chose the two candidates who are the most notably lacking in substance of the entire field. Huck’s one-liners and Obama’s “hope” do not a president make. Good, solid experience and a head on the shoulders do. Iowa’s winners want for both of these. I hope Huck fizzles. What do you like about him so much, Kuo? His “decency”? Better an indecent president who can execute than a decent one without a clue.

The people of Iowa have definitely not disappointed me.
And, excuse me, but as an Illinoisan, I take exception to Donny’s rather self-righteous dismissal of my state as some kind of social and political cess pool. I certainly would claim no perfection for it, but I haven’t noticed any state that is doing such an outstanding job. May I suggest he reconsider casting the first stone, or is that not a moral enough position? Donny’s overwrought flinging of labels and stereotypes represents precisely the kind of “My side is righteous and those who disagree are not only wrong, but evil” kind of mindset that has crippled American political discourse and led to paralyzing cynicism.

Donny:
The world has turned upside down. We may have a point of agreement.
I have a dream, which may not be so crazy, that if Huck and Obama win the nomination, they could barnstorm around the country TOGETHER, as Douglas and Lincoln did Illinois in 1858 — and as, apocryphally anyway, JFK and AuH2O had promised to do before Kennedy’s tragic murder.

This goes without saying, but as one who has been in evangelical circles and is now moving in the emerging church sphere. Pat Robertson is a nut job. I was only 7 in 1988 so I don’t remember his running. But now that you have informed me of his statements David, I am beginning to get scared that our country would let televangelists run for president. Whose next Joel Osteen?

As an atheist, liberal and scientist, I can definitely say that Huckabee scares me. My wife and my mom, both liberals and both pro-choice are also scared of a Huckabee presidency.
Playing in a rock band doesn’t make his dominionist, anti-scientific, anti-feminist and anti-abortion stances more appealing to me.

“Pat Robertson didn’t have mass appeal. He scared people.”
Huck wants to quarantine people wiith AIDS. THAT is what scares me. And I wonder who would be next?

“I do believe if it boils down to these two men, that “they” will not stoop to negative ads.”
Too late, Donny. At least for the Huckster. Or did you forget his “Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers” ad???

“licentious lascivious Leftist hordes sickening the youth of America both spiritually and morally”
“Leftist-extremists (Marxists, secularists, licentious-pornifiers, altering marriage, pro-abortion, etc., etc., etc.,)”
If I told you I’m a secularist who supports gay marriage, would that scare you? Because you seem as scared of me as I am of you.

… if the right wing wants a real “culture” war, then electing Huckabee would do it. I can tell you, flat out, that if that man is elected, there will either be a mass exodus to Canada, Mexico and elsewhere between Nov. 5th and January 21st, or significant proportions of the country will up and declare Independence. If the Huckster becomes Resident, then this an AK or the Highway for millions of Americans. We aren’t going to live under a nutcase ultraright proto-fascist… this election cycle looks like a bad science fiction novel to many of us.

I will never vote for Huckabee. His past as a “minister” is a little to much of a mix for politics. He isn’t even getting any support in Arkansas.

Thomas Leavitt: You’re as crazy as Pat Robertson. By the way, don’t forget to close the door on your way out of the country; of course, we all know that you and everyone you speak of will stay right where you are, regardless of your rhetoric.

Pat Robertson’s comments on apartheid were in line with Ronald Reagan’s position on the issue (support Praetoria, oppose sanctions). Is Robertson nuts, or does he simply say out loud what his more refined allies silently believe?
Huckabee’s comments on AIDS in 1992 (a year after Magic Johnson went public with his diagnosis) were as ignorant as Robertson’s comments about apartheid. Huckabee’s campaign is not merely an ego-driven publicity stunt; in that respect, he differs from Robertson. It’s far from certain, however, that America will like what it sees as it gets to know Mike Huckabee in the weeks ahead.
Peace.

Well, the GOP will either nominate Huckabee or Romney. Duelling theocrats at 50 paces? One could throw the Book of John, while the other throws the book of Mormon. I advise saving and stashing books, ‘Fahrenheit 451′ style. And the Dems will nominate either Obama or Edwards, neither of whom could withstand the rightist ‘swift-boat’ machine.
For myself, I;m looking at my beliefs, and thinking of going Quaker or Buddhist.

Laster, you’re right about Obama and Edwards — they won’t be able to stand a long campaign. I suspect this is especially true of Obama, whose inexperience could really bite him. This is ALSO true of Huckabee. In fact, the reason I thought long ago that he wasn’t a viable candidate is that he doesn’t have what it takes for the long haul, to grind and grind down a long campaign road to the White House. I suspect he recongized that shortcoming and brought in Ed Rollins (his campaign mgr.) for that reason, but his stunt with the ad on New Year’s Eve (“I was going to show it, then decided not to so I could show it TO THE PRESS”) showed not only a horrible lack of judgment, but also that he doesn’t have what it takes to sling it out against a well organized Democratic campaign (presumably Hillary’s).
On the other hand, if Obama and Huck move forward with the nominations, their inexperience may cancel each other out, as it were. However, the polarization in this country that would result from that scenario (the white protestant vs. the black liberal) would, I think, be awful.

If Huckabee should become US President (which is luckily very unlikely) then he will probably miss even the good old days of George W. !!!
Then the Apocalypse will probably indeed be very near.
But I’m an optimist and I’m quite sure that most of the Americans are actually rational people and won’t vote for somebody who believes that his God is remote-controlling people into voting for him …

Oh, come on, people. There are things that I don’t love about Huckabee but I have trouble seeing him as so bad that people who stayed here for eight years of Bush will have to leave if Huckabee gets in. For now, he’s at least humbler so he’s potentially competent which would be a massive advance. Mind you, I’m not supporting him but I’m not hysterical at the prospect either.

Doug,
I’m not sure anyone who is running for the office of President of the United States and, unofficially, leader of the free world, can be described as “humble”. The only thing that gives me, as a secularist, comfort about Huckabee is that I think that Obama or Hillary would eviscerate him in the general election.
I actually disagree with the presumption that Obama cannot withstand the attacks by the far-right in the general election. This is the new CONVENTIONAL WISDOM (Copyright: 01/04/07…expiration date TBD) of course. However, conventional wisdom has a way of evolving over time. It wasn’t so very long ago that conventional wisdom was that Hillary Clinton was unbeatable on the Democratic side.

donny,
Here we are again… You seem to see what you want to see. you are so blinded by your love for Huckabee you can’t see the forest thru the trees.
Huckabee won’t stoop to running negative ad’s. Smoke a little more Hucka-delite. Want to place a wager on that one? Because unless the democrats get in the white house I have plenty of above middle class income to throw around.. And I’d lovvveee to double my money. That’s what we call a “sure thing.”

Swift:
You’re right about Edwards, but only because of his lack of money.
But Obama has every bit of the resources of (the) Clinton(s). And your comment rings of someone saying in early 1968, “Hey, President Johnson can beat JFK’s little brother in his sleep …”

“I can tell you, flat out, that if that man is elected, there will either be a mass exodus to Canada…” Thomas Leavitt
Oh, no, no, no, you don’t want to come to Canada, Thomas. After all, we’re a moral cesspool, as Donny can tell you – we allow gay marriage, have no abortion laws at all, require firearms registration, have universal healthcare, and now there’s talk of legalizing cannibas
Of course, on the other hand, our dollar is the strongest it’s been in 30 years, our national sales tax has dropped from 7% to 5%, the unemployment rate is the lowest it’s been in ages, crude oil (which is the guts of our economy) is $100/barrel, 86% of Canadians think it’s the greatest place in the world to live, and the value of my house has more than doubled in five years
So, you definitely want to think very carefully about coming here.
So

canucklhead, the Sodomites were so rich, that King Bera told Abram (Abraham) that he could keep all of the treasure stolen during a war waged against his city, but only allow him (Bera) to “keep the persons.” (Genesis 14) Abraham acted the way I would act about Canada today. It’s creepy how similar to today’s liberal nations like yours, Sodom was. Have a great time in your cesspool. You may want to read about Lazarus the begger too, and the rich man who got his reward in life. By the way, my house has gained in value weeks after I purchased it here in the good ol’ US of A. My Church also has nothing to fear about its real estate worth as well.

It’s amazing that people can believe they are intelligent and regurgitate internet urban legend. Take for example the atheist scientist up above who thinks 0 x 0 can equal the known universe, but a successful Governor wouldn’t make a good President. It was science that was used to measure the worth of human beings in Nazi Germany. Those that didn’t “measure up” were off to slavery and death. And it is the ignoring of science, that can make a person look at an unborn child and yet, still murder it for convenience sake. Hmm, I see a theme in atheism. Scientists are just some companies employees. Scienctists have no more grip on morality than a common gangster. Between Huckabee and Obama, Huckabee is a proven POLITICIAN, and Obama is still a rookie, nice guy or not. And let us not forget, that his views are more socialist than not.

Donny, I’m amazed that you feel free to just bandy about phrases like “the ignoring of science”, yet will scream bloody murder when someone else might mention Darwin, homosexuality, the viability of stem cell research (sure, let’s bring up the “snowflake” argument, as the cells are thrown in the trash instead of being used), and you’ll call them every name you can think of.
How on earth can someone who professes to be a Christian summon up such a sense of pride and absoluteness? As for the tired canard “socialist”, please make an attempt to reframe the argument. No one is advocating Marxism, whether Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or even, I dare say, Dennis Kucinich.
How DARE you assume to demonize half of the American population because they deign to be of the opposite political party, or of the opposite POLITICAL belief? You are free to practice your religion, that is the beauty of the United States, but you cross the line when you impugn your fellow Americans and find them dirt beneath your feet. I was raised a Jew, and at best could consider myself “unconcerned” right now, having seen religion do nothing but divide during much of my 57 years, but I would have no one, including you, doubt my morals or my ethics. You do an awful lot of judging for a humble Christian.

W Bush and Huckabee= more of the same….

As someone mentioned, the would be participants on an exodus will probably stay where they are, I know cause I would be one of them, W Bush and Huckabee=more of the same…can’t take it anymore, the world can’t take it anymore, its even dangerous to the preservation of the human race…

I sure hope Huckabee is the Republican nominee, because ANY Democrat will wipe the floor with him! After the lunacy of the W years, nobody will be voting for an idealogue for President. After all, what these people keep forgetting, it is the President of the United States, not the Senior Pastor of the United States.

In the unlikely case that Huckabee is elected pres. All I can say is:
Oh Lord, please deliver us from your followers.
Peace!

ALCON,
The RevGov Huckster does not deserve to be Prez…I just pray and hope the “liberal” media heads to the little hamlet of Little Rock where I resided for over 20 years and they dig out all the skeletons in the Huckster’s closet. I know the type of leadership Huckabee provided during my time in Arkansas. I just wish John Robert Starr was still alive; he spoke truthfully about Bill Clinton when he decided to run for the presidency. Nobody listened, so now we have Hillary running; she can run right back to being a senator. As a reformed Republican, I will NOT be voting for Huckabee. My vote will be for Obama. BTW, the media can check on Huckabee’s two sons as well. I recall the Free Press of Little Rock printing an article on the “alleged” recreational drug use of one of the Huckee-boys. He who is blameless let him cast the first stone. No judging, just give us the truth Guv-ner!
V/r,
Mandorla

Interesting, the posts here about Huckabee being an “idealogue,” and those wanting to not elect him because his “kids” may have taken drugs, BUT, then they hypocritically support Obama who is ONLY an idealogue . . . and is a candidate running for president that really did do drugs. And hardcore drugs at that. This is simply another Christian-bashing crowd doing what Christian-bashers do.

Donny:
At least Obama admitted it, in print.
Unlike a certain incumbent POTUS …

It’s creepy how similar to today’s liberal nations like yours, Sodom was. Have a great time in your cesspool. Donny
Contrary to your blather, Donny, judging any jurisdiction a cesspool consists of far more than your pet abortion and homosexuality grid; how about the honesty of its chief executive, the gullibleness of its evangelical voters, a nation’s (A) willingness to violate another nation’s right to self-determination in the interests of advancing A’s national interests, it’s urban squalor, it’s rampant racism…
Oh, that’s right, I forgot. All of these are the fault of progressive types like David Kuo, that weasel.

Please GOP … PLEASE nominate the no-hoper Huckabee…
(they won’t of course)

Your guys are silly. Canada does sound nice. What is happening to the U.S. of A.?
It is amazing what people are afraid of.
I’m sitting here with my leg in a castafter surgery being truly amused by the discussion. Thanks!

Can anyone here tell me why Dennis Kucinich hasn’t gotten more votes?. He matches my views totally and I would just like to hear what each of you like or dislike about his views?

ALCON,
I voted for Reagan, then Bush the Elder. I was bamboozled by Pee-Rot (could not vote for Clinton, recall I lived in Arkansas, so no-go), and in the next go around I voted for Junior. Well, as a military man and having spent time in the lovely streets of Baghdad…and seeing our civil liberties eroded by the Patriot Act. No way could I vote for Junior again. So, I voted for Kerry. After 9/11, I have come to see my Republican brethren turn into the biggest tax-and-spend crowd and with NO results. The only way Huckabee balanced the State of Arkansas budget was by…drum roll please…raising taxes! He did it time and time again. Plus, his campaign claims that the budget was in the red when he took office. Lie, because by the Arkansas constitution, the budget MUST be balanced every biennium. So, even though I have personally met the Rev-Gov and know what legal muscle he can muster to silence any critics, and he is…as they say in Arkansas…a good ol’ boy, I will not vote him. I will continue to speak against his candidacy and anyone who will listen and will go see the data on Arkansas under Huckabee’s governance will hopefully take their vote and cast it for another candidate. Yes, I do not agree with everything Obama has on his platform, but I will in good conscience vote for the man. Yes, I know he voted for the Patriot Act. No man is perfect…except for Jesus and for a reason…but I also have realized that no man or woman, running for President is greater than the Nation that our Forefathers conceived. I know the U.S. of A. will survive if Hillary is elected or if Huckabee is elected. The system of checks and balances ensures that dissenting voices are heard and that the proper measure of restraint in government is exercised. My grandparents left a country south of the border and came to America. I would not change my country for any other. God bless America.
V/r,
Mandorla

The rise of Huckabee is ominous and an affront to the separation of church and state. I oppose him strongly and profoundly. WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. To say that we are is a vile rejection of our historic separation of church and state. Richard

Obama is the right man for the right time. America does not have dictators. With a strong Cabinet,he will make a great President.

I think everyone should pray long and hard before election time!