J-Walking

Steve Waldman, Evangelist

Monday March 31, 2008

Categories: Faith, Politics

Writing about, reviewing, and discussing a book written by a friend who is also your boss is a no-win proposition. If you are too kind to the book you will be accused of being a suck up. If you are too harsh a demotion must be feared. And since you know that your boss friend is going to be reading it you can't get away with thinking, "Well, maybe he just won't notice."

That's why I am going to do some posts on my friend Steve Waldman's new book Founding Faith: Providence, Politics, and the Birth of Religious Freedom in America.

First this note - buy the book. Please, please, please by the book. Buy it here. But it there. Buy it everywhere. The more copies that Steve sells from this post the more likely I am to keep my job. And today my nine-month-old son ate five jars of baby food for breakfast. That stuff is expensive. I need the work. BUY THE BOOK. Buy it for family members and the postman. Of course I am being objective. It is the greatest work of non fiction since... since... Steve Waldman's last book, The Bill. I would not lie.

Ok, time to be serious.

It IS a great book. And, much to Steve's surprise, one of the things that I like most about it is that it is a profoundly spiritual book... a profoundly Christian book.

I'll write more about other parts of the book... and I actually hope to get John DiIulio here so that he and Steve can debate some of the historical and legal aspects of both of their books. But I want to focus on one particularly prophetic thing Steve notes towards the end of the book.

"One of the reasons that men such as Isaac Backus and John Leland, and ultimately, [James] Madison embraced separation of church and state was that they had supreme confidence that, in a free marketplace of ideas, their religion would win. ...I can hear Backus shout: How tepid is your faith if you think it can be easily shaken without constant reinforcement by a government-run school! How ineffective must be the churches - and parents - if you rely on the public schools as the only way to keep your children away from depravity! Crutches are for the weak or ill. Backus and Leland would exhort: God does not need the support of government to triumph.

When Jefferson was preparing for a debate over the official church of Virginia, he made a simple notation about a common objection and the answer he would offer up in rebuttal:

Obj. Religion will decline if not supported And. Gates of Hell shall not prevail.... [from Matthew 16:18]

"How is it," Waldman asks, "that even Jefferson seemed to have more confidence in the power of Christianity to defeat the forces of evil than many modern Christians?"

Good question that. Particularly coming from a non-Christian.

The answer is that too many modern Christians do have a dim, dim view of the transformative power of their faith. Too many modern Christians - like me - do not really grasp the meaning of the resurrection, the meaning of the ascension, and the continuing power of Jesus to transform lives. We look to government and to politics and there, we are tempted to believe, we can usher in the kingdom by law rather than by love.

That is just one small, small takeaway from Waldman's book... from Rev. Waldman's book.

More to come.

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Comments
Anonymous
April 1, 2008 11:15 AM

Me too, but I'm taking it on retreat. With 40 high school girls! I need prayer just for the official taking away of the cell phones!!

A framer channeled
April 1, 2008 7:18 PM

"Wasn't the party line you took that humanism/Modernity/liberalism was just a contemporary recapitulation of paganism?"

Yes, 100%. No different in the behaviors and actions of "The Left" than that of Baal and Molech worshipers "back in the day." Recapitulate, a very appropriate word for what we are seeing in those that truly worship at the alter of baby human-sacrifice and sexual perversions. Same ol', same ol'. In fact, Barack's view of ridding the parent of their child for the good of the parent is strikingly eery to what pagans did. Obama's view is very much like Molech worship in his view of having a baby. The parents would benefit from its sacrifice. Study, it's actually urged that Christians do it.

And, today too.
April 1, 2008 7:21 PM

"Wasn't the party line you took that humanism/Modernity/liberalism was just a contemporary recapitulation of paganism?"

Yes, 100%. No different in the behaviors and actions of "The Left" than that of Baal and Molech worshipers "back in the day." Recapitulate, a very appropriate word for what we are seeing in those that truly worship at the alter of baby human-sacrifice and sexual perversions. Same ol', same ol'. In fact, Barack's view of ridding the parent of their child for the good of the parent is strikingly eery to what pagans did. Obama's view is very much like Molech worship in his view of having a baby. The parents would benefit from its sacrifice. Study, it's actually urged that Christians do it.

canucklehead
April 2, 2008 12:49 AM

Donny, you're repeating yourself.

Michael Heath
April 3, 2008 8:49 AM

Does Waldman consider Dr. Gregg Frazer's thesis that the primary founding framers were theistic rationalists? I agree with Frazer that his term better defines their beliefs than deism and correctly rejects the historical revisionism of the far right. While it's beginning to gain traction, it's a nice litmus test to understand how well versed current authors on this subject are on the best historical arguments we currently possess.

Chris Rodda's reader review in Amazon also points out that Waldman makes a fallacy of balance error by framing false claims by some secularists as if they are equal in volume to the incredible effort by most Christianist media players to revise our founding history. Does Rodda's argument ring true?

The reason I ask is that I've read a bunch of these types of books and have learned that one must be cautious in their selection criteria, there are so many inaccurately framed books out there regarding this topic. Everyone wants the framers on their side since making a current case for a policy position is easier to make if their positions are supportive of our founding ideals.

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