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posted by David Kuo | 1:23am Wednesday May 7, 2008

I just watched 90 minutes of election coverage on CNN… 90 minutes that can best be summarized as 90 minutes of evidence that Sen. Obama’s brilliant race speech needs to revisited.
Because for 90 minutes the entire subtext of the conversation was that the black folks in Gary, Indiana were up to something sneaky because the votes took so long to be reported. Then, low and behold, the rest of the votes from Lake County came in and… guess what? The problem in the delay wasn’t with heavily black Gary, it was with the heavily rural polling places.
It was an ugly 90 minutes for CNN.



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Brian Horan

posted May 7, 2008 at 2:38 am


David,
We’ll see how the Republicans play the race card in the fall. The NC Republicans were trying to play up the Rev. Wright distraction, even to the apparent dismay of McCain (Honestly, I wonder how genuine that is).
When Republicans like Huckabee wave the Confederate flag in the South it speaks in very interesting ways to blacks.
Heck, Bill O’Reilly said that Michelle Obama could be lynched. I’m sure he and FOX executives understood what ‘lynched’ means to blacks.
I can appreciate that you could discern such a thing on CNN. Thank you!
But Republicans take the cake when it comes to fear mongering with race (Past examples include Bob Jones, Bush campaigners claiming that McCain fathered a black child, Willie Horton ads against Dukakis, etc.) and just about every other issue that could distract the populace from the Iraq quagmire/debacle and the Bush economy that McCain supports.
Even your cohort, Rod Dreher, has admitted on Beliefnet resents his self-imposed speech code to express ideas about Obama.
I’m a white guy married to a beautiful black woman and I’ve never had to impose a speech code on myself, probably because I see my wife and in-laws as equals.
Maybe you should become a Democrat.



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Donny

posted May 7, 2008 at 7:24 am


91-percent of Blacks????????
NINETY ONE percent?
Racism is alive and thriving and the Black community is practicing it as a matter of fact.



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Doug

posted May 7, 2008 at 7:43 am


I watched MSNBC because Lou Dobbs ain’t my boo either. That wasn’t much better, though. When Keith Olbermann quoted Winston Churchill that “This is not the end, this is not the beginning of the end, but this might be the end of the beginning” I reconsidered my position on enhanced interrogation. Happily, this race seems to be over and Obama-McCain is a pretty good matchup with no bad choice.



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Anonymous

posted May 7, 2008 at 7:50 am


“91-percent of Blacks????????
NINETY ONE percent?
Racism is alive and thriving and the Black community is practicing it as a matter of fact.”
Wrong. In a country that has historically been horribly racist, and still is in many places, like oh, I don’t know… North Carolina? I grew up there; I would know. Black people may feel their best bet to be treated fairly is to elect a black person. It’s not crazy and it’s not racist. You’d do the same thing in their position. White people face nowhere near the same dilemma.
And not all black people even support Obama for that reason.



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Anonymous

posted May 7, 2008 at 7:51 am


I love how SOLELY white males can be elected president since this country’s birth, and NO ONE cries racism about that.



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isit2009yet

posted May 7, 2008 at 8:40 am


Donny, I’ll bet in the Republican party there’s a 91 percent vote by whites for white candidates…is that racism?



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Donny

posted May 7, 2008 at 8:56 am


Neither white candidate (in US history) for president has ever received NINETY-ONE percent of the white vote. Blacks have shown us the “new” face of the racist. “Do the math.” Racism is OK for non-whites. That is change baby.



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Doug

posted May 7, 2008 at 9:10 am


Donny, but every election so far, white candidates have received 99% of the white vote. Why are we even talking about this? If you were right what difference would it make? Evidence to support your victim delusion? You don’t need evidence. It should be enough that the media is attacking your religion, the left is attacking your lifestyle and the right is destroying your credibility.



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isit2009yet

posted May 7, 2008 at 9:29 am


Donny, you’re also isolating a voting bloc…I’m caucasian and I voted for Obama. There are MANY more in my corner. I’m old enough to be supposedly in the Clinton demographic, as are many of my friends.
If ONLY African Americans were voting for Obama, you’d have a point, but that isn’t the case. In fact, commentators were mentioning last night that Obama’s vote counts were rising in his so-called “weak” demographics. He won Iowa initially, a lily-white state, so the idea that he’s only the African American candidate is absurd.
Keep trying to divide, though…the good christian fight.



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Becca

posted May 7, 2008 at 10:11 am


You’re not making fair comparisons. If ANY black candidate received 91% of the vote over a more qualified white candidate, then that would be obvious racism. If ANY white candidate received 91% of the vote over a more qualified black candidate, then that’d be racism.
Black men have run before. Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton. Did they receive 91%?
There aren’t enough blacks running on the Republican ticket to be able to draw conclusions. J.C. Watts beat white men when blacks only made up about 8% of the state’s population. I think if Condeleeza Rice ran, you’d have many republicans voting for a black woman. Would she get 91% of the black vote? I doubt it.
I think Obama is a serious contender. I think it makes sense that blacks are excited about it and want to see the first black president elected.
Disclaimer:
I’m white and I support McCain.



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yelladawgNC

posted May 7, 2008 at 10:32 am


This campaign is, in part, about getting beyond race. When I heard the crowd at Obama’s victory speech following the South Carolina primary chanting “Race doesn’t matter!” it sent chills through me. Of course, race still DOES matter, but I–Caucasian, 60, a Southerner and a military brat whose forebears owned slaves–am working hard to get Obama elected in the hope that one day race really WON’T matter. (It’s not the only reason I’m supporting him or even a major reason, but it’s A reason.)
We will hear and see a lot more viciousness and ugliness around the race issue in the coming months, and I challenge Christians to speak out, loud and clear, not stand silently by and acquiesce in this sinfulness. It’s wrong and it’s destructive, no matter which candidate you support. It tears our country apart at a time when we need to be pulling together to solve the enormous problems we face. And, if you’re a Christian, it brings shame upon the Body of Christ.



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Tim

posted May 7, 2008 at 11:31 am


David,
I too watched the pathetic interrogation of Mayor Clay on CNN last night. While he was not answering the question, the CNN reporters should have stopped after twice asking him to explain the reason behind the delay. Instead they asked three times, went to commercial and then came back and asked again. Then they brought on the winner of the “Smuggest Mayor of the Year” award from nearby Hammond, IN to degrade his Gary counterpart. So now we hear the delay was from the rural areas…has Mr Hammond Chamber of Commerce issued an apology today? Has CNN? Hmmm…



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Brian Horan

posted May 7, 2008 at 12:35 pm


Since Donny has dominated the thread with his proclamation that blacks are racist, it’s worth repeating the following and I’d like the dialog to go away from the absurd.
David,
We’ll see how the Republicans play the race card in the fall. The NC Republicans were trying to play up the Rev. Wright distraction, even to the apparent dismay of McCain (Honestly, I wonder how genuine that is).
When Republicans like Huckabee wave the Confederate flag in the South it speaks in very interesting ways to blacks.
Heck, Bill O’Reilly said that Michelle Obama could be lynched. I’m sure he and FOX executives understood what ‘lynched’ means to blacks.
I can appreciate that you could discern such a thing on CNN. Thank you!
But Republicans take the cake when it comes to fear mongering with race (Past examples include Bob Jones, Bush campaigners claiming that McCain fathered a black child, Willie Horton ads against Dukakis, etc.) and just about every other issue that could distract the populace from the Iraq quagmire/debacle and the Bush economy that McCain supports.
Even your cohort, Rod Dreher, has admitted on Beliefnet resents his self-imposed speech code to express ideas about Obama.
I’m a white guy married to a beautiful black woman and I’ve never had to impose a speech code on myself, probably because I see my wife and in-laws as equals.
Maybe you should become a Democrat.
Please, don’t taze me Donny!



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Elvis Elvisberg

posted May 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm


Blacks have voted for B. Clinton, Kerry, etc. They did not go 90 percent for candidates like Sharpton and Jackson. Whereas some white voters have told pollsters and journalists that they aren’t comfortable voting for any black candidate ever.
The fact that blacks broke in massive numbers for Obama (despite H. Clinton having outpolled him among blacks until maybe January or so) does not make them racist.
Also, 88 percent of Fox viewers voted GOP in 2004. Talk about identity politics!



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RJohnson

posted May 7, 2008 at 2:48 pm


Donny is demonstrating once again that he is not a Christian. Clearly he is a Republican first, an American next, and a Christian when it supports one of the other two.
Sad…very sad.



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Donny

posted May 8, 2008 at 9:51 am


RJ, your judgment is without value. Though you have a right to it, you’re wrong in regards to me. I am innocent of your typical lefty (ad hom) charge. A person’s position “as a Christian” is proven by the words written in the Gospel and letters from the apostles and disciples. I do not alter them for convenience and political positions as do liberal and progressive “theologians” and political aspirants. I just use them the way they are written. The racism inherent in Black people is accepted fully, whereas no one else gets such a pass. That is borne out by the numbers. Just deal honestly with facts. Whites don’t even have to be even slightly “united” in numbers as Blacks are and they get called racists often. I have had many Blacks bear out my point as valid on the Stephanie Miller show. I wish tolerance and diversity were reality, but political power (as usual) has overcome them and Christians are bearing the hatred in the corrupting nature of power. And Obama represents marxist power in the flesh. That’s MY opinion. I do have that right “too” huh?



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Thinker

posted May 8, 2008 at 9:54 am


Gosh, it’s hard not to accuse Donny as he accuses others. But, let’s go to a higher level. We all do our best to be Christian if we have proclaimed Christ as Savior, but, we all come with the damage that has happened to us in life. How to respect all who proclaim Christ and still reject messages that are the antithesis of love? I’m sure I don’t know.



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jestrfyl

posted May 8, 2008 at 2:12 pm


OK, your homeork is to listen to the soundtrack to Avenue Q. There is a song there we should all know, “Everyone’s a Little Bit Racist Somtimes”. This does not excuse it, but it does explain it.
By the way, according to the piece above, it was CNN whose racist stripes were showing.



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Phil

posted May 11, 2008 at 5:51 pm


It was weird. The CNN bunch were both cheerleaders for Obama, interviewing pro-Hillary guys, while suggesting this old style Daley vote manipulation deal. In the air, the innuendo was thick because aided by our overactive sense of having to have things delivered to us immediately. The feelings of “I bash you before you can bash me,” what I would like to call the vomit rule of the political scene, was powerfully portrayed by the “most trusted name in news.”



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