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Please note that in discussing political issues, candidates’ positions and political party statements, the Rev. Barry Lynn and Jay Sekulow are offering analysis in their individual capacities as lawyers and commentators. They are not speaking on behalf of Americans United for Separation for Church and State or for the American Center for Law & Justice. Those organizations do not endorse or oppose candidates for public office. Nothing contained in this dialogue should be construed as the positions of the respective organizations.
Mr. Sekulow, it is wonderful to see you turning to the Universal Declaration on Human Rights as a source of authority in this case. I hope that marks the beginning of a positive trend for your organization, which has a history of avoiding the document like the plague.
Actually we have had several cases at the European Court of Human Rights. We have invoked the Declaration and Charter regularly.
As an atheist but also a regular listener to Jay's show, I almost always disagree with the stance ACLJ takes on issues. Not always though and this case is a prime example of the ACLJ doing something I'm completely supportive of. Another more important issue points up why I am a regular listener to this show. This is this defamation of religion act that is under some kind of consideration in the UN. I wouldn't know anything about this at all if Jay Sekulow hadn't mentioned this thing on the air. Again of course, I completely support anything ACLJ can do to rid our world of this horrible atrocity in the making. I'm flabbergasted that the mainstream media not to mention the rest of the Christian media doesn't even seem to be aware of this defamation of religion act. What's up with that may I ask?
Boris- We actually have a team in New York City tonight working on the Defamation of Religion issue. Last week our ECLJ Director testified before the UN on the issue. Go to eclj.org for more information. Thanks for listening to the radio broadcast.
Dear Mr. Sekulow,
Thanks for taking on this most important human rights issue of our era: the threat of orthodox Islamic Law--Shari'a--to the Western concept of freedom of conscience. But it is tragic that the individual most suited to take on this transcendant issue--Barack Obama has responded with silence---and worse, as I described at length in an essay published 9/111/08 http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obama_911_and_freedom_of_consc.html
My conclusion compares Barack Obama's silence and shrill accusations to the words and deeds of my dear colleague and "apostate" (what an absurd term in the year 2008!) from Islam, the great scholar, Ibn Warraq:
Ibn Warraq's formal childhood experience of Islam mirrored Barack Obama's -- it was no more extensive. Yet despite copious evidence to the contrary, Barack Obama has gone to great lengths to deny even a nominal childhood Muslim upbringing. These repeated, often shrill and accusatory denials are accompanied by a disturbing, if predictable silence: not once has Senator Obama celebrated the remarkable freedom of conscience he had here in America to decide in his mid to late 20s that he would practice Christianity openly, and devotedly, absent any consideration of his childhood Muslim background.
Mr. Obama has thus far squandered the unparalleled opportunity to highlight and extol a profoundly important virtue of this flawed, but still great country of ours, personified by his life story: America's singular, unwavering support for true freedom of conscience.
Surely if Obama is to live up to his followers (and his own) pretensions of being a "transformative" figure, then he should be ready to elucidate, frankly, the utter lack of freedom of conscience in the Muslim world, relative to the US; why his own life trajectory demonstrates this difference; and how the fight against global jihadism is, at its core, about the protection of this most profoundly important Western ideal. Let us hope that Obama's involvement with the 7th annual commemoration of September 11, 2001 will give him pause to reflect upon these matters, and discuss them, becoming a true "agent of change." And should Senator Obama need any further inspiration, I suggest he have a long conversation with Ibn Warraq.
Sincerely,
Andrew G. Bostom, MD, MS
www.andrewbostom.org
How do you know they will be safe in England? Their are radicals there too.
I am glad that this case will serve as precedent for those who seek religious asylum from Sharia law. I am appalled that Syrian Muslims, as well as others from around the globe, hold Sharia law over their commitment made to adhere to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. All people should be free to worship and express their religious values without fear of retaliation as long as their acts do not hurt others.
This is a very interesting case, indeed. Is it possible to have its reference?
my name is fakhar, iam from pakistan,Now iam living in UAE as Emplyee i face the difficulties about my faith, i cant understand
to what to do. when i was in pakistan my relatives
were upset with me to not did something like them.
i know i born a muslim but why cannot i change my faith.
my heart tell me that i have another faith and i cannot speak
any body about it.if i says something about my faith then
my ralatives does not accept me as a christian even they murdered me.
i love to stay in Church and say something with closing eyes.
(God, make me brave for life: oh, braver than this.
Let me straighten after pain, as a tree straightens after the rain,
Shining and lovely again.
God, make me brave for life; much braver than this.
As the blown grass lifts, let me rise
From sorrow with quiet eyes,
Knowing Thy way is wise.
God, make me brave, life brings
Such blinding things.
Help me to keep my sight;
Help me to see aright
That out of dark comes light)
(Fakhar)
my name is fakhar, iam from pakistan,Now iam living in UAE as Emplyee i face the difficulties about my faith, i cant understand
to what to do. when i was in pakistan my relatives
were upset with me to not did something like them.
i know i born a muslim but why cannot i change my faith.
my heart tell me that i have another faith and i cannot speak
any body about it.if i says something about my faith then
my ralatives does not accept me as a christian even they murdered me.
i love to stay in Church and say something with closing eyes.
(God, make me brave for life: oh, braver than this.
Let me straighten after pain, as a tree straightens after the rain,
Shining and lovely again.
God, make me brave for life; much braver than this.
As the blown grass lifts, let me rise
From sorrow with quiet eyes,
Knowing Thy way is wise.
God, make me brave, life brings
Such blinding things.
Help me to keep my sight;
Help me to see aright
That out of dark comes light)
(Fakhar)
Fakhar this is the United States. We're all way too self absorbed to care about your problems. By the way Jesus Christ never existed so you might as well forget the religion nonsense.
Boris, clearly you have never met the presence of God, or felt his abounding love personally or his loving embrace. In reality, Fahkar is far better off with his problems than you are with denying the existence of Jesus Christ. First, close your eyes and say, "Jesus, if you're really real, show me." You are loved Boris.
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