Lynn v. Sekulow

April 2009 Archives

Wednesday April 29, 2009

Categories: Censorship, Public Schools

No, Jay, the Toe Tapping Will Have To Go

Well, Jay, we didn't agree about holding graduations in churches.  It looks like we won't agree on what students can say or do at graduation, either.

Songs which mention God are usually called "hymns."  Hymns are prayers set to music.  Prayers should not be a part of a public junior high graduation ceremony.  Although the facts you relate in your post about the California case are pretty sparse, it seems completely appropriate for the school to veto inclusion of a "song [that] mentions God" at the event.  (Frankly, I'd prefer never to see tap dancing on general principle, but the First Amendment wouldn't allow a government body to bar such performances all together.)

Tuesday April 28, 2009

Don't Ban Student Religious Speech at Graduations

Barry, I think the one thing we can agree on is that as long as graduation ceremonies take place across the country, there will be questions - concerns - and ongoing debate about what's proper and what it not.

What I don't understand is why some public school officials find it necessary to censor student religious speech - even at graduation.

Even as I write this, we're working with the parent of an 8th grade student in California who auditioned to perform a tap dance number at her graduation ceremony that will take place in a few weeks. The graduation committee was impressed by her dance and invited her to perform at the ceremony, but they told her that she had to change her song selection or use an instrumental version with no words. The reason? The song mentions God.

Sunday April 26, 2009

Graduation Battle: What Does Theology Have To Do With It?

Jay, let me assure you and all our commentators that I would be similarly upset about a public school graduation in a mosque or in a predominantly GLBT Metropolitan Community Church. The doctrine of this particular church is, of course, relevant because it is recognized in the community as holding views that any reasonable person could predict would make some folks extremely uncomfortable. Secular venues are available and ought to be used.


Friday April 24, 2009

It's a Graduation Ceremony, Not a Church Service

Barry, as you know, many graduation ceremonies are held in churches around the country every year.  The reason for this is simple and has nothing to do with religion:  the church facility, in many communities, provides the space needed to accommodate students, parents and friends for the graduation gathering.

 

Unfortunately, with your lawsuit in Wisconsin, you're creating a constitutional showdown that is off base. You cite that your plaintiffs are not comfortable attending the graduation ceremony in a building where they disagree with what you call the church's 'conservative viewpoints' on a host of issues.  Okay.  But this is a graduation ceremony - not a church service.  There will be no preaching.  No evangelizing.  It seems to me that you and your clients don't like the theological teachings of this church.  That's fine.  But, that has absolutely nothing to do with using the facility to host a graduation ceremony. By holding the graduation ceremony at the church facility, the school district is not 'endorsing' any religious viewpoint.

Thursday April 23, 2009

Graduation In a Church--and It's Not Confirmation Class

Well, Jay, let's move from the national scene to a local one. Americans United has now filed a precedent-setting lawsuit challenging the use of a church for a public high school graduation ceremony in Wisconsin.

We had asked a number of Wisconsin schools to stop the practice of holding graduations in churches.  One complied, but the Elmbrook School District did not. It wants to go on having its activities in the Elmbrook Church in early June. 

This shouldn't even be a close question. The church has an enormous cross in its sanctuary (not surprising for a church) and plenty of other religious symbols throughout the building (also not surprising).  The church refuses to cover up the icons of the faith, and I certainly understand that as well.  What I don't understand is why the two schools involved, years ago, didn't start looking for another locus for the celebration of graduation day. Motivation should have been increased after church members distributed church literature to attendees in the lobby one year.

Wednesday April 22, 2009

With Obama, The Criticism is About Substance, Not Style

Barry, I really don't understand what you are talking about.  Much of what President Obama is being criticized for revolves around substantive issues - not style.  And, it's hardly "nitpicking" as you suggest.  A lot of troubling developments have occurred...

Tuesday April 21, 2009

Carp, Carp, Carp: Must The Right Always Fish For Reasons To Attack Obama?

I've been out in California a few days and I'm constantly hearing people ask: "Why doesn't the Right ever give President Obama a break?"  What they mean is that literally every day the hosts of Fox News, the Drudge Report,...

Friday April 17, 2009

Call DHS "Rightwing Extremism" Report What It Is: Offensive

Barry, let's call this Homeland Security report on "Rightwing Extremism" what it is - offensive and insulting to millions of law-abiding citizens - including veterans and pro-life supporters - who exercise their constitutional rights to speak about issues that matter...

Thursday April 16, 2009

Homeland Insecurity: Conservatives Shouldn't Worry About U.S. Report On Extremists

Jay, I can't believe you have gotten roped into complaining about the Department of Homeland Security's recent assessment of potential terrorist threats from right-wing groups. You are joining Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and "columnist" Michelle Malkin in...

Wednesday April 15, 2009

A New Generation of Leadership

Barry, rest assured there is a new and vibrant generation of conservative Christians that are already engaging what are called the "Culture Wars."  I personally have never liked that phraseology. This is really a clash of world views. There is...

Tuesday April 14, 2009

Think the "Culture Wars" Are Over? I Have a Bridge in Brooklyn For Sale

Maybe  James Dobson was just having a particularly bad day.  As the top Religious Right leader gave a "farewell speech" to the staff at Focus On the Family he noted that "we are awash in evil" and that "humanly speaking,...

Wednesday April 8, 2009

Fear Not: One World Government Not Coming

Jay, I'm happy to talk about your fears about creeping internationalism and the end of United States sovereignty.  But wait!  You provide no evidence that this administration wants to give up America's constitutional form of government or even its currency (that fear...

Monday April 6, 2009

U.S. Sovereignty at Risk With Obama?

In this space, we talk about a variety of issues - mostly along 'church/state' lines.  Barry, I am concerned about something I see developing in our 'state' - in our nation - and I want to see what you think....

Thursday April 2, 2009

Dungy Meets Standards Set by Obama White House

Barry, I'm surprised you vigorously oppose former Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy joining the White House Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.  You cite his religious beliefs about marriage.  Would you have a different opinion if Dungy supported same-sex...

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Lynn v. Sekulow is an ongoing debate blog--a blogalogue--about how big (or little) a role faith and religion should play in American politics and government, featuring the two leading voices of the church/state battle: American Center for Law & Justice Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow and Americans United for Separation of Church and State Executive Director Rev. Barry W. Lynn.

Please note that in discussing political issues, candidates’ positions and political party statements, the Rev. Barry Lynn and Jay Sekulow are offering analysis in their individual capacities as lawyers and commentators. They are not speaking on behalf of Americans United for Separation for Church and State or for the American Center for Law & Justice. Those organizations do not endorse or oppose candidates for public office. Nothing contained in this dialogue should be construed as the positions of the respective organizations.

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Rev. Barry W. Lynn
Executive Director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a nonprofit educational organization that defends religious liberty by opposing government interference in religion
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Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ), a law firm and educational organization focused on protecting religious freedom, American families, and human life.
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