Lynn v. Sekulow

Iran: Bad Actors But US Has Limits

Friday June 26, 2009

Of course, Jay, the treatment of religious and political dissidents in Iran is contrary to civilized standards of justice.  It is fine that President Obama has publicly rejected any "apology" for his condemnation of the government.  It is appropriate that Iranian diplomats have been "uninvited" to Fourth of July celebrations at US embassies around the world.  But now what?

I am always bemused by conservatives who howl in outrage but then never actually tell us what we should do. I trust you are not in favor of a pre-emptive strike against Iran.  So, then, what measures do you recommend, specifically?


It is also curious that some conservatives have completely lost all recall of the United States involvement with the Shah, unpopular in Iran but propped up by US conduct. Nor do they remember the embarrassing fiascos of U.S. "creation" of other nation's "leaders" (exemplified so well in this parody).
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Cara Floyd
June 28, 2009 6:24 PM

I am sorry no name that you are going through such a tough time. Love to you. You will see your best friend again hopefully.

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Nicholas
June 29, 2009 10:46 AM

Ed McMahon must be feeling left out right about now.

Craig
June 29, 2009 2:27 PM

Boris said

"The world wouldn't hate us if we didn't support such an evil nation as Israel and its policy of apartheid. "

This is pure nonsense. There is nothing like apartheid in Israel. When Israel was created in 1948 from the British governed territory of Palestine, two entities were created. It was a partition. Immediately the non-Jewish partitions and all the neighbors attacked Israel figuring they could just wipe it off the face of the Earth. They lost that battle and all the subsequent battles. If they had not, there would be a Palestinian state today.

Arabs in Israel have significantly more rights than Jews in any of the Arab states or Iran. In fact, Israel as a Jewish state may be only a memory in the future because of the free elections in which non-Jews are given equal rights. This doesn't happen in any of Israel's neighbors.

The so-called Palestinians are refugees because the Arab states in the region find it beneficial to keep them as such from which to recruit terrorists.

Someone once said something to the effect that if you disarmed all of the Arab states in the Middle East, there would be peace, but if you disarmed Israel it would no longer exist. This is still true. Israel has its faults, including allowing settlements on land on which they could create a Palestinian nation. But Israel is still one of the most democratic nations in the world, with more rights for all of their citizens than any of their neighbors, and more than most countries.

You may be correct that certain religious zealots do hate America for its support of Israel, but that is based on antisemitism and not on an apartheid that may exist on the part of Israel.

Boris
June 29, 2009 10:58 PM

The excuse the Jewish people have always used to squat on that land in Palestine is that God gave to them. That kind of thinking is very dangerous and the reason the Jewish people have not negotiated faithfully over the years. This is the reason of course that the Palestinians will no longer negotiate with Israel. They've been burned to many times. The hypocrisy of the claim that this land is divinely ordained is that the majority of the population and its leaders no longer believe in the God they claim gave them the land.

Your Name
July 3, 2009 7:48 PM

Friends what are they?
Do people just care about money?
Where are they when you need them? Do they call? Do they write?

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Lynn v. Sekulow is an ongoing debate blog--a blogalogue--about how big (or little) a role faith and religion should play in American politics and government, featuring the two leading voices of the church/state battle: American Center for Law & Justice Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow and Americans United for Separation of Church and State Executive Director Rev. Barry W. Lynn.

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