Lynn v. Sekulow

From Pre-Born to Already Born

Monday July 27, 2009

Not surprisingly, we have such a different view about fetuses and their alleged "rights" that we haven't resolved the issue of coverage of "reproductive health" and abortion in the healthcare bill. You would grant constitutional rights to what the Religious Right calls the "preborn."

Let me ask what your view is on the "already born."  News accounts this morning chronicle the beginnings of a second-degree homicide trial for a father who allegedly allowed his young daughter to die from juvenile diabetes.  (The mother has already been convicted.)  His defense, in part, is that he didn't know his daughter had a serious illness and that he was praying for her recovery, whatever she had.  Do you believe that his presumably authentic and deep-rooted spiritual belief in divine intervention in curing illness should be a legal defense in a criminal trial?

Most of your colleagues are avid supporters of "parental rights" -- choosing what school a child attends (even if it is a private religious school and you still want me to pay for it via school vouchers); helping shape the curriculum in a public schools by eliminating sex education or inserting "intelligent design" alongside evolution in the biology class.  Do parents have a right to believe in prayer so strongly that they leave the health care of their children up to God?  Or, do young children have a "right" to be free from potentially dangerous forms of belief held by their parents?

I do support the right of informed adults to choose to forego potentially lifesaving treatments on the basis of religious or other deeply held philosophical views. The courts generally support that view. With minors, though, whose claims ought to be paramount?

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Your Name
August 6, 2009 12:52 PM

Unborn children are living human beings and are entitled to all the rights that humans normally enjoy. Because during the process of invitro fertilization the reproductive surgeon has to determine whether the human organism in the petri dish is alive. Otherwise if the organism were not alive then invitro fertilization wouldn't succeed. Invitro fertilization is therefore scientific proof that humans are alive and living outside there mother's bodies from the earliest moment of there existence.

Your Name
August 6, 2009 12:54 PM

Unborn children are living human beings and are entitled to all the rights that humans normally enjoy. Because during the process of invitro fertilization the reproductive surgeon has to determine whether the human organism in the petri dish is alive. Otherwise if the organism were not alive then invitro fertilization wouldn't succeed. Invitro fertilization is therefore scientific proof that humans are alive and living outside there mother's bodies from the earliest moment of there existence.

Boris
August 6, 2009 1:13 PM

Your Name,
See if this can penetrate your skull. A fetus will never be given rights that conflict with a woman's rights. Rights must be considered as a whole. So go find some other way to take away the rights of citizens and give them to the government. This case closed. You lost.

Brenda
August 7, 2009 2:01 AM

The way it is right now women have all the rights and unborn babies have none. It's not a choice of either the gov't having all the rights or a woman having all the rights. A woman can choose to put a baby up for adoption while pregnant, work the whole time she is pregnant, then give birth and hand the baby over to the new parents who "choose" to raise the baby. All this is done without the gov't getting involved.

Boris
August 7, 2009 10:04 AM

That's right a fetus will NEVER be given rights that conflict with a woman's rights. Men have no reproductive rights as it is. We aren't going force women to endure nine month pregnancies they do not want to endure just to spit out a baby and give it away. Your posts reflect the kind of evangelical Christian religious fanaticism that was so very popular in Nazi Germany under Adolph Hitler. Oh yes Hitler was a Christian just like you and promoted the exact same ideas that Jay Sekulow does.

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Lynn v. Sekulow is an ongoing debate blog--a blogalogue--about how big (or little) a role faith and religion should play in American politics and government, featuring the two leading voices of the church/state battle: American Center for Law & Justice Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow and Americans United for Separation of Church and State Executive Director Rev. Barry W. Lynn.

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Rev. Barry W. Lynn
Executive Director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a nonprofit educational organization that defends religious liberty by opposing government interference in religion
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Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ), a law firm and educational organization focused on protecting religious freedom, American families, and human life.
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