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David Banack is an attorney living in Jackson Hole. He joined the LDS Church at age 15 and later served a two-year LDS mission to France and Switzerland. He has lived up and down the West Coast, as well as in Fiji, Samoa, Sweden, Utah, and now Wyoming. Dave has been running the Mormon Inquiry site discussing LDS and Christian issues since 2003. He is a website editor for Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought and also participates at the LDS weblog Times and Seasons. The views expressed on this blog are his own.
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And learning about scientific eugenics and/or race theory would precipitate what response exactly in teenage atheists?
Oh my.
That science has its blindspots too. I don't want readers to think that Mormonism is unique in having to deal with inoculation-type problems. All denominations and groups have them.
I understand, but evidence of bad science hardly diminishes the utility of the scientific method in the same way that evidence of bad faith undermines belief. Anyway, I'm gonna leave it alone. I've been infesting again and should give it a rest. The inoculation discussion is an interesting one.
Yeah, Dave, I'm finding myself with Chino Blanco seriously wondering how this has anything to do with atheism.
For example, atheism is not equivalent to scientism and scientism is not necessary for atheism. HECK, scientism isn't even necessary nor equivalent to science and the scientific method!
For that matter, atheism isn't even a "denomination." It would be like saying that a theist should be worried about the string of Catholic forgeries that actually only affect Catholicism...or the documentary hypothesis that only actually affect Judaism...do you get my point. Atheism is broad and tells you very little...other than someone doesn't believe in a god...in the same way that theism is broad and tells you very little...other than someone believes in some formulation of higher power. You have to get into details before you can actually...get to the tough spots of those details.
Most people who supported what you call scientific eugenics and race theory were good Christian gentlemen, some of them even your fellow religionists.
People who support such reprensible theories today, as far as I can tell are called neo-Nazis and are pretty much 100% Christians. What does this have to do with atheism, again? Oh, that's right, NOTHING. Please try again.
Let's not forget that scary "Science" did what science does -- self-corrects when new evidence is found -- and showed such theories wrong, wrong, wrong. Science worked.
"Innoculation," as you define it, is not much better than "indoctrination." In fact, the former is really the latter in disguise. Teaching just enough of a controversial topic to make the adherent think he or she is informed is really deceptive and counterproductive. The end result is not retention. It's disillusionment, once the adherent realizes there's more to the story than he/she has been told. Openness is the best policy.
Bill, whether it is official policy or just the reality on the ground, "opennness" is what we already have: anyone can read anything. Whether from your public library or Amazon or Googling terms of interest, there is unprecedented openness and access.
The inoculation discussion is not about restricting information or access -- that's a straw man argument. "Inoculation" is about encouraging mainstream members of the LDS Church (most of whom don't really have that much interest in the details of LDS history or doctrine) to do some reading and thinking. It complements openness.
Dave, if the LDS Hierarchy wished to encourage mainstream members to know a little *actual* Mormon history, they could talk about it somewhere. Church manuals, perhaps; talks during conference; during all those infinite seminary lessons? That none of these opportunities are taken, and that the internet is roundly condemned) can only be parsed to mean that the least knowledge the better, as far as the institutional church goes. How many wives did Joseph Smith have? How many were married to other men at the time? How often have you discussed this in a meeting?
Dave, openness is not what we already have. While it's certainly true that we live in an age of unprecedented access to information - including materials that might challenge the testimonies of the faithful - it is much more common for churchmembers to be counseled to stay away from what Elder Oaks called "other sources." BYU professors have been dismissed, not for writing diatribes against the Church, but for writing in the wrong journals. I can only speak for myself, but if I can remember any pattern detectable from Conference talks, firesides and other words from on high, it has been to follow the living prophets and ignore the rest.
Such counsel may be dead-on for those in need of more milk than meat, but the lack of leadership in this area is counterproductive. It's not hard to see why the leadership would want to avoid sticky topics with the propensity to take it off message, but when rank-and-file members are left to either avoid such topics or approach them at their own risk, people are often left ignorant (and unprepared) or devastated by what they find on their own.
My approach, when confronted with weird Mormon statements from the fossil record (including one of Brigham's many infamous rants) is to hunt down and read the original source - in its entirety. This is not innoculation. It's research. Inquiring minds want to know. Doing so does not un-weird the weird, but it does provide badly-needed context. Instead of depending upon the facile spins of a faithful handler, I'm able to discover the larger context for myself. If weird-comment-lookup were less a guilty pleasure and more a matter of Gospel study, it would suck the poison out of many uninvited discoveries while helping some of the faithful temper their credence for any stray comment uttered by a long-dead Mormon leader on an odd Tuesday when it was really the chili talking.
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