There are a few people who should see this movie…and quit being so sure that their god isn’t a forgiving god who loves ALL his children, no matter who they love or want to marry. If I was a Christian, I’d go for the loving and forgiving god,not the rathful god. It is animated, instead of live actors “bodies” in it…seems to be a trend. Must be cheaper to do with voices, instead of “real” people.

“the voice of Christian Slater”
Okay, they seriously could not have found a better voice actor? Christian Slater has one of the freakiest voices out there. *shiver*
But hey, nothin’ like depicting a god that slaughters the first born infant of everybody who does not worship in his name to promote a sense of superiority.
But wait, doesn’t the anti-abortion crowd say their god is against “killing babies”?

To be fair, the Egyptians killed all the Hebrew babies first, and I’m pretty sure Moses was against gay marriage. I seem to recall reading that in one of his books.
God bless.

“But hey, nothin’ like depicting a god that slaughters the first born infant of everybody who does not worship in his name to promote a sense of superiority.”
“To be fair, the Egyptians killed all the Hebrew babies first”
The earlier “God” sounds more like the Greek and Roman gods who had their temper tantrums; the Jewish god also threw quite a hissy fit there. The later “God” sounds more removed, which of course the intermediary Jesus allows. Neither makes much sense or runs a universe such that I’d want to believe in it.

“If I was a Christian, I’d go for the loving and forgiving god,not the rathful god.”
According to the Bible, they’re one and the same God, so Christians have no right to choose between them.

One of Gods promises is, if your mother and father forsake you I will take care of you. All good fathers are loving and forgiving. They will discipline their children, but they are not wrathful. Why should our Holy Father be less? You don’t have to chose, as you have free will to choose how you perceive God to be.

Sorry, I should have read my last sentence over. You have a right to chose, as we have free will to choose how we perceive God to be.

“According to the Bible, they’re one and the same God, so Christians have no right to choose between them.”
It seems Christians are constantly choosing what parts to believe.
And happily, people can choose to opt out of the irrational and inconsistent fantasy that is Christianity.

The original version of God in the Heston movie is pretty accurate when it comes to the vengeful, angry and legalistic deity of the old testament. You only need read the books of Moses to understand the terrible nature of that tribal god. There is no tolerance, no love of humanity and no compassion. The flood, the tower of babel, the destruction of the egyptian army, the war of extermination against the Amalekites and many other pitiful actions testify to the jealousy and wrath of the old testament god. Making into gentile and caring god almost seems blasphemous and wrong. Why not just stick to the text?

Nick,
I think you’re wrong when you say there’s no compassion or love of humanity. I’ll grant that God isn’t liberal or politically correct in the Old Testament, but Yahweh shows mercy and faithfulness to degenerate and unworthy Israel time and time again, and there are several places that indicate this mercy will be directed at humans more generally as well.
I think you’re right, though, that making a movie about Yahweh who’s all about fluffy-love would be unfaithful to the text. Those who want to be faitful to the text have no freedom to pick and choose between God’s wrath and God’s mercy; the two are interrelated and often one and the same, and any attempt to remove this tension results in something is at best simply too bland to be even remotely interesting.

“but Yahweh shows mercy and faithfulness to degenerate and unworthy Israel time and time again”
Remember who invented this god: Jews who weren’t necessarily happy with tribal politics and/or other powers in the area. It’s a damned shame they also invented a theistic claim to some land that is now causing the Middle East and us immeasurable grief.

It’s a damned shame they also invented a theistic claim to some land that is now causing the Middle East and us immeasurable grief.
Pathetic, prejudiced, ignorant post.
You’re nothing if not consistent.

Whose Bible says Jesus and God are one and the same? Certainly not mine!
And for those who say that “God murdered innocent Egyptians”, be aware that it was Pharaoh himself who chose the tenth plague. God foretold that the plague would be of Pharaoh’s own choosing and Moses begged Pharaoh not to speak it.
The Amalekites were murderous thugs who attacked from behind and murdered the old, the very young, the sick, and the frail who were at the rear of the multitude leaving Egypt.
Jews/Hebrews/Israelites have lived in the Middle East since the beginning of recorded time.
And oh, BTW, the land there was legally given as the State of Israel based on the British Mandate and sanctioned by the United Nations.
Some posters here would be right at home in Iran and other Arab countries with their consistent cries of “Bad! Israel – Bad!” Get a real clue as to who is threatening the world and try to open your eyes and mind for a change.

Eastcoastlady Rocks Praise God, Praise Lord Jesus!

eastcoastlady,
you, my dear, are nothing if not articulate!… nice to see a post that isn’t hostile to Israel or antipathetic to God for a change!

“And oh, BTW, the land there was legally given as the State of Israel based on the British Mandate and sanctioned by the United Nations.”
If the UN can legally give away other peoples’ land. If they tried to give away, say, Illinois the US would prevent it. The people on that land weren’t in a position to prevent anything. And do you seriously think that giveaway would not have happened without the biblical claim written by very early Israelis?
“Some posters here would be right at home in Iran and other Arab countries with their consistent cries of “Bad! Israel – Bad!”"
It’s s.o.p. to slander anyone in the US who doesn’t toe the Israel is Perfect line. In fact I’d much rather live in Israel than in Iran, though I far more prefer to live in the US, which for instance has a constitution. But this has nothing to do with Iran; it’s about the way Israel has treated its Palestinian neighbors (with, of course, the stupid assistance of a few of the Palestinians). Israel gets such great press despite such poor behavior I choose to root for the underdogs.

Michael,
I’ll take “articulate”. I’ve been called much worse… nnmns,
Israel gets horrible press! What news sources are you reading? The press is typically so slanted against Israel it’s a crime.
Typical headline: “5 Israelis ‘die’ in suicide bombing.”
Typical headline: “5 Palestinians ‘killed’ in Israeli mortar attack.”
The BBC and NYT and many other papers have been called out specifically for lies in their stories on the Israel/Palestinian situation. It’s been proven that the Palestinians have invented attacks and scenes for the sake of the foreign press.
And I never, ever said Israel was perfect. I know it’s not. However, your posts always, always say Israel is completely at fault and bordering on an apartheid country. Perhaps, unjustly, this is what you actually believe.
“Underdogs”? You must be joking. The Palestinians have the resources of the entire Arab world behind them.
Maybe you should actually spend some time living in Israel before you start judging and pointing fingers.
Who was dancing in the streets and celebrating when 9/11 happened?
It wasn’t Israelis.
Who dances in the streets when Palestinian guerrilas/terrorists carry out bombings and kill as many Israeli civilians as possible? Need I answer?
Whose representatitves have steadfastly refused to negotiate or try to give any ground during peace talks? Hint: It’s not Israel.
Israel gave up Gaza. Now, several times a day, Gaza residents set up their mortars and fire into southern Israel. I know personally people who patrol there and witness these attacks.
The true “underdogs” are the Israelis who are held under a microscope by the world and expected to turn the other cheek while surrounded by those who wish to wipe the country off the map. Perhaps if Israel was populated by a Christian majority, they could do so (turn the other cheek, that is). Oh, yeah – this “Christian” country attacked Iraq on false premises, not anywhere near our borders. I forgot.
Try reading other news blogs, like MEMRI.com, and Honestreporting.com, for different views.
Sorry, I don’t know what your abbreviation “op” means.

nnmsn:
Re: giving away Illinois, this is a ridiculous comparison. Ownership of the land in the Middle East has been in question for thousands of years, and the U.N. had every right to partition it. The Jews were living there as well as the Palestinians and had just as much claim to the land as anyone, having lived there since recorded time, as I said ealier.
You also have to take the period of time into account. World War II had just ended, 6 million Jews were murdered (including all my grandparents, aunts and uncles, leaving both my parents completely alone), and yet, the world still didn’t give a damn about the Jewish refugees who did not have a place to go or a nationality – for example, Poland didn’t even grant citizenship to its Jewish residents.
You have to take yourself out of your tunnel to see what was happening at that time.

ecl, I am as sorry as I can be about what happened to all your people and I’m quite ashamed that the US didn’t accept a lot of Jews in those days. Much earlier I’ve suggested the Jews and the world would be better off if those in Israel came to the US and gave up any claim to land over there; clearly it won’t happen but I believe that and would be glad to see them show up.
For decades I’ve read articles about Israeli attacks in retaliation for this or that Palestinian attack, rarely if ever about Palestinian attacks in retaliation for Israeli attacks. Clearly it’s gotten into the tit for tat mode now but it’s represented in the US mainstream media as reason-less attacks by Palestinians followed by reasoned responses by Israel. And the Israeli fighters are always “soldiers” while the Palestinians are often “gunmen”.
I know it’s a hard situation for most of the people over there on both sides but Israel is considered a modern democracy with a nation of many educated and intelligent people and they mostly have jobs to go to and I think live a life not unlike the (vanishing) middle class or upper class in the US. The Palestinians’ economy is at the not so tender mercy of Israel and their farms and homes are often destroyed and I think their education system is in bad shape at best. I presume they are just as intelligent as the Israelis but they have far fewer opportunities and far less control over their lives. If you had to choose one life or the other, independent of nationality etc. I think you’d choose the life of the average Israeli over that of the average Palestinian as would I.
And the bad guys on the Palestinian side are guerillas over whom the Palestinian population has little or no realistic control while the bad guys on the Israeli side are often the government leaders and some of the soldiers over whom a democracy should be able to exert control. (Granted we aren’t doing so well at that in the US either.)
And somehow someone got shots on 9/11 of some Palestinians happy that the friend of their oppressor (certainly as they saw it anyway) had suffered a blow. If someone had flown a plane into the Kremlin during the cold war and there was a camera in, e.g. Peoria you’d have seen similar behavior.
There were no cameras in the highest offices in Israel but I’ll bet there was at least eager recognition of opportunities to declare some people terrorists which had not existed before 9/11.
ecl you and I agree on easily 70% of the topics discussed here but seriously disagree on the Middle East. I can understand why you hold the views you do probably better than you understand why I hold mine. I see the my country tied to Israel but unable to, and in fact unwilling to try to influence it. I see us giving Israel military support and cover in the UN that allows it to behave worse toward its neighbors than many countries would get away with, hurting Israel, the US, and chances for a more peaceful world. I saw us invade Iraq, a truly stupid act, partly in defense of Israel and I foresee us invading Iran, possibly a terminally stupid act, largely in defense of Israel.
So I shall continue to point out as I can that Israel and our relation to it are not the great things many in the US think and you will continue to defend it and I hope we can respect each other.

nnmsn,
Thank you sincerely for your measured, respectful response.
Yes, I’m not sure it’s worthwhile to debate the fine points of why we disagree on the Middle East. We have divergent points of view in that area and maybe our personal radars just find different things and interpet them differently.
Therefore, I will forgo the opportunity to debate even the points in your latest post of why I disagree on the reasons for the invasion of Iraq (a move with which I also have heartburn, but for different reasons than yours), and just say, “Peace.”

nnmns,
Seriously, truly, though, check out http://www.memri.com and honestreporting.com. You will see the basis of some of what I stated as what I see as anti-Israeli bias in most media, especially in Europe.

Oh, BTW,
Eastcoastlady Rocks Praise God, Praise Lord Jesus!
Funny. I’m laughing on the inside…

ecl, you have fans. Possibly groupies. Enjoy.

nnmns, “groupies”. Now that’s truly funny.