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Economy Trumps Evangelicals in GOP Race

posted by nsymmonds | 3:07pm Monday January 28, 2008

United Press International – January 28, 2008
MIAMI, Jan 28, 2008 (UPI via COMTEX) — The economy overshadows other conservative social issues in the Republican U.S. presidential campaign as religion fades from prevalence, pollsters say.
The evangelical base makes up as much as 40 percent of the GOP primary electorate in some states, but the emergence of U.S. economic issues on the campaign trail points to a fractured and weakened conservative Christian base, The Miami Herald said Monday.
”The evangelical vote is not what it used to be,” said one pollster, adding that evangelical candidates have lost elections to moderates since 2006.
Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney stumped on the economy in campaign events in Florida Sunday, but neither attended religious services there, the Herald said.
The newspaper said some election analysts point to former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who as a self-proclaimed evangelical seems to be drawing the religious vote away from the public spotlight.
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Copyright 2008 by United Press International



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nnmns

posted January 28, 2008 at 3:15 pm


“Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney stumped on the economy in campaign events in Florida Sunday, but neither attended religious services there”
Well, a lull in hypocrisy. Slight breath of fresh air blows by.



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pagansister

posted January 28, 2008 at 3:53 pm


Hats off to McCain and even Romney. I’m concerned with the economy and other things in this country and so not concerned with whether the candidates are going to church or not. In fact, I really don’t care if they ever go to church, as I would rather they leave their religious beliefs out of the running of the country, should they be elected.



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truthseeker

posted January 28, 2008 at 10:51 pm


Which religous beliefs would you like to leave out? Truthfulness, faithfulness, honor? All beliefs are religous!?



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nnmns

posted January 29, 2008 at 3:10 am


Truthfulness, faithfulness and honor are aspects of people; some have them more than others but I don’t think religion is especially good at encouraging them; witness the number of religious people who are obviously short on one or more of them.



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pagansister

posted January 29, 2008 at 10:23 am


What do truthfullness, faithfulness, and honor have to do with religious belief? The current “Commander in Chief” hasn’t display much if any of those characteristics, as one large example of those in a politician. Those certainly don’t belong exclusively to people who claim to be religious.



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Anonymous

posted January 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm


“Truthfulness, faithfulness, honor?”
Don’t see much of any of those in what Dobson, Perkins, Falwell, Robertson, Buchanan, Swaggart, Hagee, Hinn, Haggart, et al produce.



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rage

posted January 30, 2008 at 1:22 pm


“The evangelical base makes up as much as 40 percent of the GOP primary electorate in some states, but the emergence of U.S. economic issues on the campaign trail points to a fractured and weakened conservative Christian base, The Miami Herald said Monday.”
LOL! Yep, the jury is in. Dumya is definitely not a man of godly faith.
Recovering from having been duped in 2000 and 2004 through Rove’s acrimonious introduction of sanctimonious wedge issues into the political discourse to divert the naive and most gullible into voting against their own interests, the right-winged Believers now concede they have been baboozled by elephantile delusions of nationalistic selfrighteousness. Many of the Faithful have lost jobs, homes, and growth opportunities once taken for granted under Clinton. Since there are still gay parades, open abortion clinics, and Creationism has not supplanted Evolution in our science classrooms, these Christian noobs now feel more owned and used by the GOP than ever. Churched believers have become a mockery and a laughing stock, thanks to the GOP, the party now rife with scandals that in no wise perpetuate Christian family values, with all their cloying deceitful promises for a Christian nation. SATAN, THE LORD REBUKE THE GOP!!!
The right-winged began to fall from Evangelical favor by midterm elections back in 2006, when fewer of these pimps whoring the churched were elected or returned to their career offices.
Since greater Christendom is neither gay nor overwhelmingly seeking abortions, the more mindful and independent Beleivers had already begun to seek out and support politicians who offered resolutions to issues that actually affected them, not their religious beliefs. Churched people and the Faithful, like everyone else in America, are currently living the dire consequences suffered amidst the once vibrant middle class, thanks to America’s having too long indulged the myth of unregulated free market capitolism and supply-side economics that were the basis for the myth of ‘small’ government. America needs government that aptly and equitably fits the American demographics of US the PEOPLE, not the personhood of the corporatocracy.
This Reaganomics that morphed horrifically into whatever economic evil Dumya and Cheney have fiscally sired is nothing but a bill of goods Wall Street manages to widen that wealth chasm between the obscenely rich haves and us impoverished have-nots. Such economic and budgetary hijinx, pragmatically abandoned during the Clinton years, have been far more fecklessly deployed by Junior43 than by even Herbert Hoover durng the gilded age of the infamous robber barrons. Then again, we would have been surprised if Junior had NOT ran his White House the same way he ineptly mismanaged all the other failed business endeavors upon which he clumsily embarked before reducing the Office of our Presidency to the status of a bad joke at which the whole world is now snickering.
Only global business and industry have profitted handsomely from this, while not hiring the starving here at home who supported their puppet President. Evangelical church people now realize they were tricked and distracted by these irrelevant wedge issues that have no meaningful bearing on real life in America. Nothing the GOP led the churched to believe was important to the grand old party has proven true. With the passage of every single second of this Presidential administration, it becomes more and more obvious to WE THE PEOPLE OF A DISGRUNTLED NATION that the industrial military corporatocracy has mandated our national religion only be found in our shamelessly agressive pursuit of naked avarice and shameless greed. Thus, the churched have now come to Jesus, this time for real deliverence from the madness born from their not consulting Him sooner, realizing that Dumya, as Doc Holiday said of the fallen woman thoughtlessly using him to advance her fortune in the movie Tombstone, is quite possibly the antichrist, and Cheney the false prophet of this mandated corporatocratic church of satan.



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ab

posted January 30, 2008 at 5:59 pm


What a silly article.
Let’s look at their proof that Evangelicals are becoming less influential. The have been losing elections since 2006. How many elections for Congress or President have happened since then? Oh that’s right zero. Ok, maybe a couple special elections since then, but those have historically been poor predictors of future elections. And 2006 was a bad year to be a Republican. There were plenty of liberal and moderate Republicans who lost in 2006. And one election doesn’t make a trend.
The other proof offered. Last Sunday the candidates weren’t in church.
So one election cycle and one Sunday now are all it takes to prove this point.
I know I am convinced.
These people are allowing their bias to become wishful thinking. This tend might happen, but what is outlined above it far from anything that shows that is true.



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feetofclay

posted January 30, 2008 at 7:00 pm


“Many of the Faithful have lost jobs, homes, and growth opportunities once taken for granted under that whoremonger Clinton. Since there are still gay parades, open abortion clinics, and Creationism has not supplanted Evolution in our science classrooms, these Christian noobs now feel more owned and used by the GOP than ever….SATAN, THE LORD REBUKE THE GOP!!!”
Much too funny! And, very true.
“This trend might happen, but what is outlined above it far from anything that shows that is true.”
This trend IS right now happening.
There are a lot more evangelical liberals now than back in 2006.
Evangelicals are tired of the GOP lies. Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy are dead. A lot of the other patriotic stalwarts are under investigation for the lack of fiscal accountability. The average butts on the pews are no longer interested in Christian nationalism the way we were eight years. We actually would rather have good jobs, a home, and a decent economy for everyone.



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rage

posted January 30, 2008 at 8:25 pm


“And one election doesn’t make a trend.”
But, two certainly do. This trend was not born in 2006, but in 2004, when, after all Dumya’s cheating in Ohio, he still only carried 51% voter support. An abysmal 51% of the vote, especially after every largely illegal thing Kenneth Blackwell did in Ohio to jealously garner victory, is nothing close to a true national mandate. That’s the clearest indication that support for conniving Bush-esque neoWhig buffoonery had begun to loose its right winged luster. A measely 51% is more skating in by the skin of one’s teeth than an overwhelmingly decisive statement of support from the voters, especially for the candidate who had to be appointed the first time by the Supreme Court. I suppose the good news was that the GOP only needed to openly cheat in one state to assure the corporatocracy that their shill was going to be able complete the assigned tasks started in the first term.
In the next two years, Dumya would make his Iraq quagmire that much worse, ineptly skuttling our environment, education, healthcare, and the world’s economy doing that. Dumya’s record is so horrendous, 2006 GOP candidates dared not mention his name on their respective stumps for office. Even now, GOP candidates routinely reach past associating their campaigns with either Dumya43 or Poppy41 to connect themselves to Reagan’s likability as the great communicator and propelling force who grabbed and moved the nation.
The ‘architect’ Karl Rove had to resign in disgrace in 2007 after his failure to deliver both legislative houses to the red side in 2006. None of his dirtiest tricks could take the national fatigue. Even the megachurched, embarrased by scandals like the Ted Haggard affair, had soured on this Presidency. With the mass political defection to the left went a many evangelicals from the far right who were put off by GOP inethical immorality and the marginalization of the Christian faith bred from the very negative public perception of evangelical Christian Nationalism.
With more first timers, independents, undecideds, progressives, and liberals favoring Democratic candidates in 2008, the trend to the left is about to become that much more more obvious. RethugniCons counting on the churched are already feeling the heat of evangelicals having lost faith in the GOP, who has delivered nothing of what Dumya promised them. Many of the once supportive Faithful are far worse off now than they ever imagined sinners left behind the Rapture would be under the reign of the antichrist. In the end, for all the support Bush received from the churhed and faithful, things have not gone well at all for their base.
Had it not been for that fateful Tuesday in September 2001, Vacation Dumya would have been well on his lame duck way to obscurity after a single aimless term at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Suddenly, by the 12th of September that year, he had unbeleivable political capitol that was repected executive currency GLOBALLY! The Chimperor somehow managed to mindlessly squander that almost immediately by going against the world to unilaterally and pre-emptively attack a sovereing nation with neither the ability nor the desire to threaten, all on behalf of his global business cronies. By the close of 2003, America had lost the esteem of the world, having become notorious for being a rabid pack of vegitative red states in a blue-state world. From that sad place and point, many socially progressive evangelicals have emerged from shame to bravely vote their interests rather than their dogma.



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