“Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?”
What tiny babies? Dobson, like so many, can’t get it through his head babies have been born. He’s worried about blastocysts, zygotes, embryos and fetuses.
Now to his main point: Obama’s interpretation of some parts of the Bible are different than his. Well, duh. There’d only be one kind of church if everybody agreed how to interpret the Bible.
Maybe Dobson is feeling out of the loop and wants to grab some headlines. Well he got 15 minutes of fame, now he’s forgettable again.

James Dobson Accuses Obama of ‘Distorting’ Bible
OMG…..ROTFLMAO
All I can say is pot meet kettle.
nnmns-
“Well he got 15 minutes of fame, now he’s forgettable again.”
Were this only the case. I hope I am wrong…but, I suspect that we are going to hear a lot from him over the next few months. If one does not actually think about what he says….it is very comforting to listen to him. He sounds (his voice is) kind, compassionate, and reasonable. However, his words and intentions are devoid of kindness, compassion, and reason.
What a comic joke that his organization is: “Focus on the Family”.
Peace!

Dobson said he might not vote for a President. Is he counting on this mattering to anyone? More poison ivy presented by him for anyone who thinks as he does.

Dobson is a media – well, there are all sorts of words that even george Carlin might not have thought we could use on TV. Let’s simply say Dobson would do ANYthing to get media attention. he is swimming in theological backwater and looking at the shrinking pool of members. So he will say things like this simply to get his name in print and on the air. He really does not care what people think, only that they think about him.
That being said – my response to Dobson’s remarks is — [crickets chirping, the sound of laughter in the distance, and the still quiet of night]

I think that Obama is a liar like any other candidate. When we started it was of the People for the People by the people. Now if you are known and have money. The electoral vote is a mute point. We have telephones, internet and over night mail, not a man on a horse. besides that, how can we have the freedom to choose when political party leaders tell candidates to bow out of the race? I’m not from a good background. I don’t even have a diploma, just a lowly G.E.D., but that doesn’t mean I’m stupid. We as a country are loosing our freedoms little by little. If you look over the last 30 years, it is scary what freedoms we have lost. How much do we have to lose before people realize that. no prayer in school, no choice of candidates unless ritch, no chance for the little people, no help from the government unless your a minority, no morality on public television, rarely a “thank you God” in public, no pledge of aleagence to the flag, etc… Hello People, you want change, speak up. oops can’t do that, might be investigated by N.S.A. Please do not vote for Obama because he’s different. No real christian deliberately changes what the bible says. Our country was founded on christian values. You can vote, but you should vote for the one best for the job, not just because he’s different. P.S. If you want civil war, vote for a muslim, but maybe you should read the coran first, a muslim will lie to gane power over christians, they will use any means. that he does not know what the bible says when he “quotes” should be a big indicator.

Who will back me for presidant. I know how to budget. I know how to give orders. I love my God and my country. I also know what our country needs.

Jeane (with our without capitols)
I think you need to check your facts and at least learn how to spell some of the things you are addressing. I know personally how difficult it is to untangle one’s fingers on the keyboard. But at least learn to spell the Qur’an (or Koran, very Anglisized). Also, Obama is not a Moslem and has never been. He is well versed in the Bible – perhaps something Mr. Dobson needs to refer back to once in a while (instead of his own writtings). The freedoms we have lost have been at the scullduggery of the Scarecrow and Tinman (Bush/Cheney). As to the rest, I think they are matters of opinion but not fact. It is great that you feel free to express yourself here. I do not think anyone will chase you for your commnets here.

JEANE or jeane,
Maybe you can budget, maybe you can give orders, but I’m not about to vote for someone who (1) doesn’t know the basics of grammar (yes, it counts!), (2), can’t spell (an occasional mistake is fine, but not a post filled with them), (3) doesn’t know that the country was NOT founded on “Christian values”.
Maybe you should go back to school and take a civics or government class. If you’re going to rant on about the bad shape this country is in and how to fix it, you ought to get the fundamentals correct to start.
Yet, your post fills me with conflict. I want to agree that we’ve lost many of our freedoms, but it’s been mainly under the power of our current “Christian” president and his creation of the “non”-Patriot Act that that has happened.
Getting rid of organized prayer in schools was a good thing. No one stops a student from saying a silent prayer any time they want.
Fundamentalists of any stripe worry me, be they Muslim or Christian.
Yes, it’s true, you typically have to be rich to run a campaign. Sucks, doesn’t it?
When do you want people to say, “thank you, God?” in public?
Where do you see the Pledge of Allegiance not being said and you think it should?
And lastly, and perhaps most scary, what do you think our country “needs” that you can provide?

Jeane, it sounds like you won’t be convinced to vote for Obama, which is too bad if true. McCain has shown he’ll say or do anything to be elected and will pretty much make for a third term for GWB so I hope you’re not interested in voting for him.
I suggest the Libertarian candidate Bob Barr to you. He may well be the closest candidate to what you want.

Jeane, a GED is something to be proud of, not sluffed off as nothing. You are disgusted with the mess this administration has given us. This makes you angry, and frustrated, as it has all of us. People are not voting for Obama because he’s different. They are voting for him because of his clear voice of wanting to change our countrys politics, and the wrong way we’re going. He is not changing the Bible, that is a conservative Republican rant to make people afraid of him, and vote for McCain. McCain is a good man but not the right choice at this time of history in U.S.A. for President. Slow down and read, and think and read the comments of people from all over the country after the news articles about Obama and McCain. Listen to all our countrymen and women with an open mind.

nnmns quote “He’s worried about blastocysts, zygotes, embryos and fetuses.”
Its funny because even though it makes it sound like babies are aliens from out of space these adjectives could fit us all at one time if God choose to call us that but He doesn’t. And some one care enough not to kill us.
I think that every one today running for president talks out of both sides of their mouth and is unfit to preach about God, Obama is no exception. Obama does indeed pervert the scriptures to “his” advantage so he has only his best interest at heart when it comes to the truth about God. I agree with Dobson, as for candidates, the pickings are slim and none.

“Would we go with James Dobson’s or Al Sharpton’s?”
Here Obama skillfully leaves out Rev. Wright

excuse me, moot point,alegance(in school), gain,qur’an, I was in a hurry. my spelling is not perfect. but not that horrible eather. I had a brain bleed 9 years ago so I have to go slow to get it all right. but i am right about what i say. don’t assume I’m ignorant because I spelled a couple of words rong. I was joking about running. But I think any blue collar worker would be a better candidate than our current options. If you do your homework, we have lost many freedoms throughout the years. You can’t blame it all on Bush, his deeds are just more noticeable. All I really want is a candidate to be as honest as possible. not gonna happen. oh well. at least i’m honest. and i don’t try to make others feel bad because of their mistakes.

“these adjectives could fit us all at one time”
Well duh, of course they did. But now they don’t so you also don’t need to worry about being aborted, cknuck. It didn’t happen and now you are born and it never will happen. It’s that simple. It seems that many anti-abortionists have a misconception about time, that somehow it happens over and they may yet get aborted.
jeane I agree there aren’t any ideal candidates (though you and I would likely disagree on whether one was ideal). If we are so turned off we just don’t vote that’s too bad, otherwise we have to find the candidate we feel least bad about. I’m disappointed in some things Obama’s done recently but I know he’s the closest to what I want. I really think you might like Bob Barr, the Libertarian.

Yes, jeane, my apologies for nit-picking.
Also, you’re right, honesty is sadly missing from many, if not most, presidential candidates and probably from most other candidates for major office.
On the other hand, honesty does not serve most candidates well. Remember Mondale and his statement that he was open about the need to raise taxes under the new administration and George HW Bush’s reply of “no new taxes”?
People don’t want to hear the truth. They can’t handle the truth. (small joke quoting Jack Nicholson from the movie…) They want someone to tell them what they want to hear and if it’s different, they’re screwed.
Still agree that we’ve lost many freedoms, but I think you and I would disagree on the nature of those “losses”. I haven’t seen anyone subvert the Constitution as has “W”.

“Well duh, of course they did. But now they don’t so you also don’t need to worry about being aborted, cknuck. It didn’t happen and now you are born and it never will happen. It’s that simple. It seems that many anti-abortionists have a misconception about time, that somehow it happens over and they may yet get aborted.”
I think you sometimes confuse opinion with fact. Both you and Cknuck have OPINIONS about when life as having value begins. You should both respect that difference of OPINION without stating your beliefs as if you have any proof of them.
Y’all are both full of yourselves. It’s irritating.

C, when life as having value IS a matter of opinion. Calling blastocysts, zygotes, embryos and fetuses “babies” or “children” is just plain error. Bzefs have not been born, babies have. It’s simple and clear.
I happen to opine that bzefs have increasing value as the pregnancy progresses so I like Roe v. Wade which recognizes that by allowing states to accord them increasing protection as the pregnancy progresses.
I could give you all sorts of reasons why I think bzefs start with almost no value and ramp up, but I won’t unless asked or challenged.

And some days I’m at best half full of myself.

I like you nnmns just the way you are. I would change ck, and Jeane, if I could, but actually they’re nice people, too.

Why, thank you, mam.

I like the term, “bzefs”. It sounds like the noise a baby makes – but I agree that they are not-yet-babies.
Half full or full of yourself – if the glass spills it still makes a mess!

Just having an opinion irritates some people but don’t stop having them being offended and irritated is like peeing on yourself nobody feels it but you.

Juicy point there, cknuck .

thank you. as to the other subject. I don’t believe abortion is right. But I also believe that every woman should have a right to choose. I know it sounds hypocritical, for that I am sorry. In the bible He gave us freedom of choice. He also Knew us before we were a twinkle in our parents eyes. So even though we are given choices, we all have to face Him with all of them. I personally never wanted to go before God and say I killed his miracle, but others may. Thats their choice.

Well I don’t think anyone has to worry about that, but we disagree on that topic.

Rev. Wallis on Sojurners had a good take on Obama and Dobson, coming out on Obamas side. One funny thing I remember is, who cares what a Psychologist votes for anyway!

Late coming in on this, as have just returned from a vacation. However, I think Dobson is full of it, always has been and I really don’t care what he thinks. The Bible gets viewed as many ways as it is possible to do…everyone has their opinion on what chapter or verse is “proper” or right or whatever. The folks who translated it had their opinions, and they were able to put in their ideas when they were doing the translating…thus the Bible is really a book that has been distorted by human beings for centuries. Who is to say that Dobson’s interpretation isn’t of the Bible isn’t a distortion? Dobson is so NOT special…